What would you like to see in an Adventure Land overhaul?

Lee

Adventurer
I'm not sure what you guys mean by expansion pads, but if you speak of the area behind the Jungle Cruise towards the entrance, then i don't think it's possible to expand there because there is a road there.
The expansion pads are located behind/beside the Pirates show building, and south of the treehouse.
Roads are not an problem.

Ah....Well, it could be a easy retheme, yes?
Yep.
 

_Scar

Active Member
Here's my list:

Keep Aladdin Spinner
Add Genie 3D show or DCA musical in expansion pad
Add Up water ride in large expansion pad
Refurb JC to have Muntz sponsor the attraction
Retheme Tiki room with Kevin/Russel/Dug


:)

:eek:

Please tell me that this is a joke!!!

No, why would it be?

I really think Up and Aladdin both belong in Adventureland. Also Mystic Point is on my Dream Adventureland list. It has been criticized to be like HM, but the only comparison is that they both are in a house and odd things happen. They're totally different.

Plus, Aladdin just got kicked out of DCA. WDW should snatch it up.

Edit- Lee, aren't these expansion pads?

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The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
Hmmmm....Adventureland....let's see...

Aladdin spinner has to go, along with all the middle eastern theming.
Retheme the whole land to fit the Jungle Cruise/Indy theme (1930's explorers).
Add either Indy Adventure or Indy coaster. Tie into JC narration and story.
Change Swiss Family to Tarzan.
Turn the old Adventureland Veranda into a new version of DLP's old Explorer's Club restaurant.
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Presto! The perfect Adventureland.:D
That's not what I would want for AL. Too much 'backstory', too much a forced narrative. It leaves too little room for the imagination of the guest.

I like AL as a 1950's fantasyland, based on all those adventure movies set in barely identified exotic locales. AL is retro-exoticism. There is no reason to add another layer of forced retro-exoticism. That will lessen the theme, instead of strenghten it.

I think very basic, intuitive appeals to the public cultural imagination make Disney lands more magical than infinitely crafted backstories.
 

chaggy102

Member
Get rid of Aladdin which would make the way for the Adventureland Challenge to make its way back.

Also find a way to add the Ad Club into the mix. That's all I'd need.
 

Lee

Adventurer
My rebuttal:

That's not what I would want for AL. Too much 'backstory', too much a forced narrative. It leaves too little room for the imagination of the guest.
No such thing as too much backstory, even if you don't overtly explain it to the guest. Nothing worse for me than a massive hodge-podge of themes like what is currently in AL. It's just a thematic mess at this point.
I like AL as a 1950's fantasyland, based on all those adventure movies set in barely identified exotic locales. AL is retro-exoticism. There is no reason to add another layer of forced retro-exoticism. That will lessen the theme, instead of strenghten it.
No, it will still have a strong theme. Only now it would have a "story". Any park can have a theme, but Disney can give it a story.
I much prefer a backstory every time.:cool:
 

Exprcoofto

New Member
Hmmmm....Adventureland....let's see...

Aladdin spinner has to go, along with all the middle eastern theming.
Retheme the whole land to fit the Jungle Cruise/Indy theme (1930's explorers).
Add either Indy Adventure or Indy coaster. Tie into JC narration and story.
Change Swiss Family to Tarzan.
Turn the old Adventureland Veranda into a new version of DLP's old Explorer's Club restaurant.
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Presto! The perfect Adventureland.:D

You wouldn't change anything with the Tiki Room? :eek::lookaroun
 

SiriusBlack

Active Member
I used to really want an Indy ride to come to WDW, but now I don't know so much. I have never been to Disney Land and I'd love to ride it, but if I get to choose I think I would choose a different new headliner for Adventureland than that. I would go with something along the lines of an immersive Aladdin ride as the big new attraction in AL if they were to add one. Also, take out the old Aladdin spinner while they are at it.
 

MarkTwain

Well-Known Member
Jungle Cruise gets more sophisticated AAs and maybe some more gags

Enchanted Tiki Room UNM once again becomes the Tropical Serenade (the actual name of WDW's original Tiki Room), but with a special nighttime show called the "Tropical Fiesta" featuring Latin music and lighting effects

Aladdin spinner, and rest of bazaar theme goes. Jeweled pavement stays.

The Explorer's Club reopens in the Adventureland Verandah, themed as the family restaurant/dinner show variant of the new Adventurer's Club at the Polynesian Resort (;)), although both are operated by the Society of Explorers and Adventures, and make allusions to each other with photos and in-jokes on the walls.

Swiss Family Robinson stays untouched. At most a few new "interactive" props.

Pirates receives all-new AAs and a "touch-up" refurb. Our Pirates will never rival the scale of Disneyland's, but we can at least match its showmanship.

No Indy, unfortunately. Let Disneyland keep their magnificent unique attraction... we certainly have our share, plus we already have Dinosaur. We'd be better off with a new original E-ticket.

And my proposal for that new E-ticket is...
a flying ride through the tales of the 1001 Arabian Nights. Guests board dhows (picture) and sail into a sultan's palace, where an AA Scheherazade meets the evil Sultan Sharyar and begins to tell him stories to soften his heart. As the stories begin, the ship takes off into the night sky and gently sail (Peter Pan style) through the stories in the Sultan's imagination, depicted in very surreal scenes with AAs, projections, and special effects. As the stories develop (Great Movie Ride style) the ride becomes wilder (perhaps as if Soarin were actually moving), and eventually ends by landing back in the water in the Sultan's palace to reveal he has fallen in love with Scheherazade through her stories.

This would be located on the spot between Caribbean Plaza and Splash Mountain with a new desert theme, to maintain the transition between Frontierland and this Arabian portion of Adventureland, which could include the previously mentioned Genie 3-D show and maybe even a relocated Magic Carpets spinner.

As a reader of many of the 1001 Nights, this ride would be my dream come true. :)

P.S.: La Pirata y el Perico reopens permanently.
 

Figment632

New Member
Original Poster
That's not what I would want for AL. Too much 'backstory', too much a forced narrative. It leaves too little room for the imagination of the guest.

I like AL as a 1950's fantasyland, based on all those adventure movies set in barely identified exotic locales. AL is retro-exoticism. There is no reason to add another layer of forced retro-exoticism. That will lessen the theme, instead of strenghten it.

I think very basic, intuitive appeals to the public cultural imagination make Disney lands more magical than infinitely crafted backstories.

Back Story is everything in a goo theme park you can never have too much.

Jungle Cruise gets more sophisticated AAs and maybe some more gags

Enchanted Tiki Room UNM once again becomes the Tropical Serenade (the actual name of WDW's original Tiki Toom), but with a special nighttime show called the "Tropical Fiesta" featuring Latin music and lighting effects

Aladdin spinner, and rest of bazaar theme goes. Jeweled pavement stays.

The Explorer's Club reopens in the Adventureland Verandah, themed as the family restaurant/dinner show variant of the new Adventurer's Club at the Polynesian Resort (;)), although both are operated by the Society of Explorers and Adventures, and make allusions to each other with photos and in-jokes on the walls.

Swiss Family Robinson stays untouched. At most a few new "interactive" props.

Pirates receives all-new AAs and a "touch-up" refurb. Our Pirates will never rival the scale of Disneyland's, but we can at least match its showmanship.

No Indy, unfortunately. Let Disneyland keep their magnificent unique attraction... we certainly have our share, plus we already have Dinosaur. We'd be better off with a new original E-ticket.

And my proposal for that new E-ticket is...
a flying ride through the tales of the 1001 Arabian Nights. Guests board dhows (picture) and sail into a sultan's palace, where an AA Scheherazade meets the evil Sultan Sharyar and begins to tell him stories to soften his heart. As the stories begin, the ship takes off into the night sky and gently sail (Peter Pan style) through the stories in the Sultan's imagination, depicted in very surreal scenes with AAs, projections, and special effects. As the stories develop (Great Movie Ride style) the ride becomes wilder (perhaps as if Soarin were actually moving), and eventually ends by landing back in the water in the Sultan's palace to reveal he has fallen in love with Scheherazade through her stories.

This would be located on the spot between Caribbean Plaza and Splash Mountain with a new desert theme, to maintain the transition between Frontierland and this Arabian portion of Adventureland, which could include the previously mentioned Genie 3-D show and maybe even a relocated Magic Carpets spinner.

As a reader of many of the 1001 Nights, this ride would be my dream come true. :)

P.S.: La Pirata y el Perico reopens permanently.

Jungle Cruise doesn't have any AA's due to the fact that they opperate in water.
 

MarkTwain

Well-Known Member
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Jungle Cruise doesn't have any AA's due to the fact that they opperate in water.

I was referring to things like the glowing-eyed tiger, the cobras, the Rhino poking at the campers on the pole, the Jungle natives waving their spears at you... all of these could benefit from some new technology, whatever you'd like to call them.
 

MarkTwain

Well-Known Member
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No such thing as too much backstory, even if you don't overtly explain it to the guest. Nothing worse for me than a massive hodge-podge of themes like what is currently in AL. It's just a thematic mess at this point.
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My one complaint about backstory is when it used in place of an appealing and consistent theme, e.g. Dino-Rama. But when a backstory is used to support an appealing and consistent theme, then it works beautifully.
 

Figment632

New Member
Original Poster
My one complaint about backstory is when it used in place of an appealing and consistent theme, e.g. Dino-Rama. But when a backstory is used to support an appealing and consistent theme, then it works beautifully.

Great point, all of the back story in the world can not change the fact that Dinorama is cheap and tacky!
 

tazhughes

Member
Just curious

Hmmmm....Adventureland....let's see...

Aladdin spinner has to go, along with all the middle eastern theming.
Retheme the whole land to fit the Jungle Cruise/Indy theme (1930's explorers).
Add either Indy Adventure or Indy coaster. Tie into JC narration and story.
Change Swiss Family to Tarzan.
Turn the old Adventureland Veranda into a new version of DLP's old Explorer's Club restaurant.
photo+10.jpg

Presto! The perfect Adventureland.:D


Lee just curious, how does Pirates fit into the new theme? Do you mean for Pirates to be it's own sub land seperate from AL, or is there a retheme for that section as well?

BTW, love the idea for the Veranda, much better than the idea to turn it into a Pirates restaurant all the way over there.
 

_Scar

Active Member
Great point, all of the back story in the world can not change the fact that Dinorama is cheap and tacky!


It's supposed to be that though..... like the Paradise Pier is supposed to be a crappy amusement park! :lol:

I agree Dinorama sucks, but it does have strong theme which should at least give it a 50/100 F. :)
 

Lee

Adventurer
Lee just curious, how does Pirates fit into the new theme? Do you mean for Pirates to be it's own sub land seperate from AL, or is there a retheme for that section as well?
It's already in it's own sub-land: Caribbean Plaza.:D
I might make that difference more obvious....but no real changes. Well...upgrades to the lighting and sound, of course...:rolleyes:
 

Figment632

New Member
Original Poster
It's supposed to be that though..... like the Paradise Pier is supposed to be a crappy amusement park! :lol:

I agree Dinorama sucks, but it does have strong theme which should at least give it a 50/100 F. :)

Still doesn't make it Ok be thankful that more of DAK's budjet didn't get cut. I read an interesting article a few weeks back and Eddie Sotto has stated that DAK's budjet was nearly slashed more and would have ended up like DCA.
 

EPCOTPluto

Well-Known Member
OK, what I would like to see...

  • Please remove Aladdin. It's tacky, out of place & completely creates horrible guest flow through that part lf AL.
  • Reopen Adventureland Terrace. Seriously, another eatery would alleviate the lines in other places.
  • The JC is fine the way it is. Just add some new scenery in the actual ride & it's good to go.
  • I am fine with Zazu & Iago in the Enchanted Tiki Room, but it's the current storyline that is just sad. Remove it - & that Buster Poindexter song - please! :shrug:
  • Pirates... its exterior is perfect. However, I would like to add the night-time version whereas the skeleton pirates come attack you. "Pirates of the Scareibbean"? :D
  • Indy... I think it would definitely be a major plus to this side of MK, but something new, unlike the DL counterpart. I would place it somewhere between SFT & JC. I would also say Raging Spirits from TDL would work as well.
  • Perhaps an arcade of some sorts in which reflects a non-PC era of game hunting, like The Safari Club from 1971-72 or The Caribbean Arcade from 1974-80.
 

Thunder Kz

Active Member
I'm noticing a trend. Not many are happy with Aladdin. I'd say yank that, or at least move it from dead center. Tiki Room really needs some attention. But, I think the Swiss Family Treehouse has to stay!
 

EPCOTPluto

Well-Known Member
I'm noticing a trend. Not many are happy with Aladdin. I'd say yank that, or at least move it from dead center. Tiki Room really needs some attention. But, I think the Swiss Family Treehouse has to stay!
Well, it's just an attraction in which is horrible for crowds and has an incredibly short time, being the Dumbo type it is.

Agree on the other two. :D
 

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