What would happen if...?

[Mr Disney]

Welcome to the place where you can find out what would happen if...YOU changed a certain part of Disney World. Get feedback from other people on how they would like/dislike your change. Ask what the long term effects might be. And so forth...

What would happen if... [drumroll please] the 20,000 Leauges Lagoon was drained?

From what I've gathered from a few posts in a 20K Thread in the HOW DO THEY DO THAT? area, the walls would collapse and flood the locker rooms and such in the utilidors area. I have also heard that divers have gone in and touched the rock and it crumbled. Well, I'm new to this whole posting thing so I'm going to put a twist on things.

What would happen if... (G-d forbid) Disney drained only the warehouse in the back? I need feedback here! Is there hope for 20,000 Leagues? You tell me. And one more thing... I'm trying to gather as much information as I can about this "flooded warehouse" that supposedly contains all of the 20K props and such. What I've heard is that stuff is growing on the top of the water and the water reeks. Isn't the lagoon chlorinated? Why didn't some catastrophe happen when they added king triton and painted those rocks? And wouldn't the mess from inside the warehouse leak out in to the lagoon? It's a pretty big warehouse as you can see. Thank you sooo much to anyone who replys.

 

[fngoofy]

I think the deterioration of the lagoon is greatly exaggerated. While it may not be in good enough shape for the day-to-day grind of a ride, I think that if it were on the verge of collapse they would have closed those utilidors off long ago.

Not to say that if they drained it there wouldn't be some crumbling of features, but I don’t think you’re looking at a China syndrome.

 

[Main Street USA]

That huge white building in the back that you refer to as the warehouse is actually the ride building. Whether or not it is ALSO a warehouse I do not know.

Oh yeah, I too believe the deterioration stories are greatly exaggerated. I have indeed been in the parks when the lagoon was drained, and nothing tragic happened.

 

[NowInc]

I say they should get rid of the whole thing..fill the hole with concrete...it would at least get more use than it is now...

Sorry..babbling..as usual...just think that 20k gets TOO much attention for something that hasnt been touched in over 3 years.

 

[fngoofy]

I’m amazed at how small the ride building is, the outdoor portion is darn near as big as the indoor portion.
I would be sooo creeped out walking around in that ride building. All the props and water unused, like an underwater ghost town.

 

[raven]

Kind of funny, when you call the WDW info number to check what attractions are "closed", it mentions the ride.

I would sound to any other person that this attraction is a "temporary" shut down. However they also still list Skyway at MK and in Epcot they list Horizons!

We all know what happened to them!

 

[isnet396]

The show building is slowly rusting away...its very dangerous to enter it without proper safety equipment, as the water is unsanitary and the catwalks above are twisted and probably could give you tetnus...

See the other 20k post for more info...

Ian

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

I’m amazed at how small the ride building

I hate to disagree but that building looks like a significant piece of property. Removal of that building would allow significant redevelopment in either of the adjacent areas. Isnt it about time the MK had a new attraction that was an addition as opposed to a replacement. I hardly class the Flying Carpets as a major ride.
Infact based on my first visit with COP, Time Keeper, Skyway, all no longer in operation the MK offers poorer value for a much increased ticket price. I wont include 20k cause even on my first visitit wasnt working though the vehicles were still in the lagoon.

 

[niteobsrvr]

the building will go away. the lake will be removed.

However changes have to be planned and made to all the backstage areas you can see in the photo first. The road you see is the only one that accesses the utilidor area.

Something very big this way comes.

 

[fridgepoliceman]

I think they should shut down the ride, and turn it into a 20k themed playground for the little ones and also have fun and informative activities all around for the whole family. The same sort of thing they have at the end of spaceship earth except about 20k.:animwink:

 

[WDWsmith2001]

why

I too don't really know why all this attention is paid to 20K, but I'm drawn to it. Maybe its just a link to the good ol' Disney, take a look at disney sea's version and you can see what the Imagineers can do when properly funded. Eisner may have saved Disney from take over, but it's time to rebuild the dream, and this spot seems as good as any.

 

[Mr Disney]

I agree

I agree totally with WDWsmith2001. Walt Disney World seems to be becoming more of a theme park and not a "family playground/destination" every day. I remember when the only time my sister and I would never fight is when we were in Disney World. We've gone to Disney once or twice every year since I was three. I am fourteen now. The trips to Disney since I was 9 ('97) seem to be spent mostly arguing between my parents, my sister, and me on what to do next. Last Thanksgiving, though, my parents allowed me to go off on my own and that didn't een help! I came back and my sister and parents were still arguing.

Back to what I was orginally saying. I agree with WDWsmith2001. If Disney Imagineers were tohave proper funding from Eisner, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea could be revived. Imagine, there would be rejoicing in the streets for some. I only want it back because it was a unique ride. Being able to see underwater without having to become a certified diver or join the marine corps was a thrill for me. Then, of course, there was the storyline. 20K was (and is) one of my favorite movies. Being able to experiance the ride was beyond my imagination.

-Isn't that what Disney World is supposed to be about? Going beyond our imaginations?

 

[NowInc]

*sigh*

Hereee we go...

Even if Disney (read: Not Eisner..since its not just one man running the company) gave the Imagineers more funds, 20k would remain untouched. Why?? Simple::

First..it would cost WAAAAAAAAAAAY too much to remove it. Its not as easy as just tearing down a ride building like Horizons, this is a giant water filled hole..in the middle of one of the most heavily populated areas in WDW. So that right there would raise the budget of the "new attraction"...

Second...a new ride would make fantasy land sooo couded. 20k is in a "bad spot" right next to pooh....an area that already sufferes from being overcrouded. Add a new ride there and see what happens.

 

[MKCustodial]

I agree with NowInc. I hate when people start selling their souls for a new e-ride. Personnally, I rode 20k twice, in 90 and 92, and I really hated, I thought it was dumb. And I also don't think they're gonna get rid of the lake, it gives a nice touch to Fantasyland. They might get rid of the attraction building, but that's another problem entirely. Seriously, I know a lot of people love it, but it just went the same way as Toad Hall and Horizons. Let it rest.

 

[Javier&Christie]

I guess we can say it can just stay there.. but really, how long is the particular section of the park going to stay untouched? I know adding another ride of any kind would add even more traffic to the already crowded fantasy land.. but who knows how long Disney / Magic Kingdom is going to be around? I'd like to think forever, or at least the rest of my life b/c I love Disney and it's a huge part of our lives... so if it's going to be around for such a long time, are they just gonna leave that spot a lagoon forever? hmm.... gotta do something with it

 

[Al]

i reckon that if disney starts doing REALLY well, then when the funds are there, then they will do something so it, because it really is a prime site - and is very large (lagoon + warehouse combined)

 

[Mr Disney]

Here we go.

Ok, well since my very first comment on post boards ever made such a great reply list, I have more to say. Hope you guys don't mind. What would happen if...The streets in Fantasyland were widened? Couldn't they have like a bridege sort of thing over the lagoon? Wouldn't that be cool? Well, cool to me.:king: :slurp: After widening the paths, then adding 20K.

OR

What would happen if they added 20K to another park like MGM. They could do it in the lagoon that already exists there. Or Epcot. The huge lagoon in the middle is only used to ferry people from one end of the park to the other. Even Animal Kingdom might be able to house it somewhere. It could showcase marine life. Wouldn't that be neat. Who uses the word "neat"? :veryconfu Anyways, I was just wonderin.

 

[General Grizz]

The Subs aren't coming back...I don't think there is any hope.

I never rode 20K either... dang ...

 

[DonickCo]

Originally posted by NowInc
I say they should get rid of the whole thing..fill the hole with concrete...it would at least get more use than it is now...

Sorry..babbling..as usual...just think that 20k gets TOO much attention for something that hasnt been touched in over 3 years.

It's only been 3 years?

 

[General Grizz]

Oh, no...didn't it close in 94? I am not sure...it'd be 6 years if then...