What is the best timeframe to do these attractions?

MK-fan

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Hello all, I’m taking a trip to WDW next week and I am just curious about what time of day I should visit these attractions for the shortest lines: Flight of Passage, Navi Journey, Ratatouille, Mine Train, Peter Pan and Frozen Ever After. Thank You.
 

wdwfan4ver

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Mine Train is near when the park opens.

I can't answer with Ratatouille, but I know August 30th last year, there was a 35 minute time at 3:45.
 

Laura

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Mine Train gets down to about 30 minutes during fireworks and Peter Pan is almost always a walk on, during fireworks. The posted wait times will be false. Example: many times during fireworks Peter Pan a posted wait of 45-60 minutes, and
I have been the only person in the entire queue.

If you jump in the Ratatouille queue 1 minute before park closing you’ll be on in 10 minutes. They close the lightning lane at 9:00, and once that’s shut down, the regular line moves very quickly. You can actually use this 1 minute before closing strategy at *nearly* any ride in any park. It works especially well at Ratatouille, Rise of the Resistance, and Slinky Dog. Navi was also a really short wait one minute before park closing when I’ve tried it (I don’t ride that one too often to be sure it works every time). You just have to ignore the posted wait times which will be enormous to encourage people to leave, because they are almost always wildly inaccurate at this time of night.

Flight of Passage is a tough one. The line doesn’t move much faster, even once the Lightning Lane closes so you won’t walk onto that. But still, if you get on right at park close, it will be more like a 40 minute wait instead of the usual multi hour wait.
 

esskay

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Where are you staying as that plays a big part in how the suggestions are going to work. For example if you're on-site and at a Skyliner resort then you're getting on Rat at opening and will walk right on. If you're off site you're queuing for 30-45 minutes.

Either way the answer for all of them is going to be along the lines of "either right at park opening or minutes before closing".
 

DisneyFanatic12

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Where are you staying as that plays a big part in how the suggestions are going to work. For example if you're on-site and at a Skyliner resort then you're getting on Rat at opening and will walk right on. If you're off site you're queuing for 30-45 minutes.

Either way the answer for all of them is going to be along the lines of "either right at park opening or minutes before closing".
Or during big events. Parades will draw guests with younger visitors (doesn’t seem to lower waits as much as it once did, but think of rides for smaller kids like Dumbo, those will be shorter generally during parades). Fireworks and Fantasmic! draw many guests as well. Though Epcot almost never has a fireworks show before closing, MK and HS frequently do. Many rides will have little to no wait during Fantasmic! (Though HS rides aren’t on this bucket list), and many rides will have little to no wait during HEA (though, as said in previous posts, the posted wait in be inaccurately high).

Another interesting thing to note is that Flight of Passage and Navi River journey will often switch places during the day. Many rush to do one before the other, and so, Navi River Journey might be 100 minutes in the morning (just a number I’ve seen, but won’t be accurate for when you’re there), while Flight of Passage might only be 45-60 minutes for a while. Then, later in the day, Navi River Journey might have a 45-60ish minute wait while Flight of Passage might be at 100 minutes.

Navi River Journey and Flight of Passage seem to have the strongest negative correlation of many rides, but it my not always be true. Just all to say ride the ride that is shortest at that time, and DON’T fall into the trap of thinking a certain ride will maintain its relatively low wait all day. That is often NOT true!
 

DisneyFanatic12

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Make sure to use Genie. I’ve never used Genie+ (and never will, voting with my wallet on that), and thus can’t vouch for or against it, but Genie is the much less talked about planning tool. Genie will give you forecasted waits throughout the day, and with the amount of data it’s been fed, the forecasted waits are often pretty accurate. Genie can also help you build an itinerary for your day (again, complementary AI service), but I must admit I’ve never used the feature. To see the Disney Genie insights, just click on a ride wait time in the MDE app, and most rides will have the forecasted wait for the rest of the day on a little chart. If the ride wait is an outlier or the ride is too new and does not have enough data yet, a forecasted wait might not appear, but most rides at WDW have a forecasted wait for the rest of the day through Disney Genie.
 

Chef Mickey

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Make sure to use Genie. I’ve never used Genie+ (and never will, voting with my wallet on that), and thus can’t vouch for or against it, but Genie is the much less talked about planning tool. Genie will give you forecasted waits throughout the day, and with the amount of data it’s been fed, the forecasted waits are often pretty accurate. Genie can also help you build an itinerary for your day (again, complementary AI service), but I must admit I’ve never used the feature. To see the Disney Genie insights, just click on a ride wait time in the MDE app, and most rides will have the forecasted wait for the rest of the day on a little chart. If the ride wait is an outlier or the ride is too new and does not have enough data yet, a forecasted wait might not appear, but most rides at WDW have a forecasted wait for the rest of the day through Disney Genie.
I've found Genie a horrible service in generally and consistently inaccurate.

Yet another failure from corporate and another reason they ruined the park experience while charging more.

With all rides, pretty much do them at the end of the night for least line or rope drop if you're insane.
 

DisneyFanatic12

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I've found Genie a horrible service in generally and consistently inaccurate.

Yet another failure from corporate and another reason they ruined the park experience while charging more.

With all rides, pretty much do them at the end of the night for least line or rope drop if you're insane.
Yea, rope dropping takes a different person than I am too. I personally don’t think Genie is bad, as it helps many first time visitors. Genie+ is a sad way to make a highly priced vacation an even higher price, but Genie is complementary for all guests. Even if it doesn’t help us regular visitors, I’ve heard a lot of good things about the complementary planning service from first time visitors and infrequent visitors alike. It’s not always accurate, but it gives them a good idea for how wait times and other things work…
 

Chef Mickey

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Yea, rope dropping takes a different person than I am too. I personally don’t think Genie is bad, as it helps many first time visitors. Genie+ is a sad way to make a highly priced vacation an even higher price, but Genie is complementary for all guests. Even if it doesn’t help us regular visitors, I’ve heard a lot of good things about the complementary planning service from first time visitors and infrequent visitors alike. It’s not always accurate, but it gives them a good idea for how wait times and other things work…
We had a wait times board 30 years ago. Good enough.
 

JIMINYCR

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All Disney tip sites and any seasoned Disney visitor will influence you to take this advice.... Any of the more popular attractions get guests running for them first thing in order to avoid building lines and higher wait times. Early or late in the day, or when parades or fireworks are drawing more park guests away from them is your best bet.
If you know your desire is to get on any popular attraction in any park, then know a few thousand other guests are wanting the same thing. Try to beat them to it.
 

Br0ckford

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I've found Genie a horrible service in generally and consistently inaccurate.

Yet another failure from corporate and another reason they ruined the park experience while charging more.

With all rides, pretty much do them at the end of the night for least line or rope drop if you're insane.
Younger me was insane. Older me knows I'll throw money away on another trip so if I miss something, I'll catch it next time.
 

Marionnette

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I've found Genie a horrible service in generally and consistently inaccurate.

Yet another failure from corporate and another reason they ruined the park experience while charging more.

With all rides, pretty much do them at the end of the night for least line or rope drop if you're insane.
I agree that Genie is absolutely useless. But from a corporate standpoint, I'm sure that many suits will point to its ability to shuffle uninformed guests from more popular, crowded areas of the park to where Disney wants them to be.

TBH, I paid for and heavily used the lines app from touringplans.com. Although its not perfect and relies on user input for real-time data, it worked much better than Genie on our last trip.
 

JIMINYCR

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Older you is richer too!
Younger me could barely scrape together enough $$ to pay the rent, buy bologna for sandwiches and put gas in my car to go to work. A Disney trip was a pipe dream that I could only hope for one day.
Now older me can do whatever I want with $$ in my pocket, more in the bank, and trips to WDW whenever I can get time to get them in.
 

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