Andrea 55
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Maybe that's because the one thing that remains constant is Disney's cash grab!
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What is going on with DHS ?!
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Matt_Black
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Yes. They're trying to grab cash. That's what for-profit companies do. It seems silly to single out Disney when they're not even the most egregious offenders.
JohnD
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I was thinking the same thing. They're da**ed if they do and da**ed if they don't. It's like people complaining about refurbs. If the ride is open, it's too dirty and half broken, etc., and WDW needs to do something immediately. If it's closed for a refurb, don't they know it's that person's favorite ride and WDW has just ruined their entire trip?! Sigh. . .
SCB502
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Disney is not the most egregious offender? Can you name one that is worse? They certainly have to be when it comes to theme parks and amusement parks. It takes a huge name and reputation to get away with all these cutbacks while at the same time raising prices, and right now they are abusing their name and reputation. Any other park would have gone out of business by now if it was ran like WDW. I live right in the middle of Cedar Point and Kings Island and they have to add new stuff every year to stay in business.
I also would challenge you to name ANY company that has made the amount of cuts Disney has and raised prices as much as they have. It would be the equivalent of Mercedes charging $100,000 for a car equivalent to a Chevy Cobalt. How long would people buy that?
Kamikaze
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No one else (besides USF, but not even to the Disney extent) spends anywhere near as much on the non-ride parts of the experience. M&Gs, theming, etc. You know, the small things to most of us, but to a lot of people those things are everything. CP is a great amusement park. But it isn't a theme park. As much as I'm down on WDW and how its run, they are still in a class of their own.
Matt_Black
Well-Known Member
The video game industry. Releasing incomplete games for $60 a pop, and then charging more for stuff to make it complete. It's like the Johnny Longtorso sketch from MST3K.
FoozieBear
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If no one minds me asking....why is everyone so against this show? I think it's an amazing stunt show. I make sure to see it every-time. I think it's awesome and entertaining, so why is everyone on this forum so upset about it's existence?
Matt_Black
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I don't know; I really like it too.
Philharmagically
Active Member
I think it's because it is so generic. You can find stunt shows almost identical to it in a lot of (much cheaper) theme parks. Why would I want to spend so much money to fly from Australia to Florida to see an attraction in a park which is running out of things to do, when I can spend a lot less money going to Movie World (Gold Coast), which has some seriously good DC themed rides?
And that is one of the reasons why I am skipping DHS next time I go to WDW, because there's nothing new or so overly unique that makes me want to go again.
Mad Stitch
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I just wish Disney would officially announce what they are doing at the Studios. I'm getting really tired of hearing the "insiders" talking to each other on message boards and podcasts saying "I can't say anything more here, lets compare notes off air." If all these people know whats going on, then Universal will already know. Disney isn't preventing the competition from getting any info at this point.
Lord_Vader
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But Disney is preventing the negative backlash they are getting with Pandora right now with many of the same people complaining about lack of communication here while simultaneously complaining about how long Pandora is taking to get off the ground.
space42
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Big difference is that we have major (and minor) attractions closed since September with no construction starting and no formal announcement - hence all of the speculation. So, if Disney was not ready to announce what they are building and / or start construction - why are they closing attractions in a park with already so little to do?
An announcement of the rumored DHS extreme makeover with a few WOW attractions will go a long way to quell the backlash.
Lord_Vader
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I am a very patient person today, much more than a few years ago. BLT closed at the very end of September and didn't the Pirates show/attraction/mess just close the past week or two? I know the last run through BLT just ran this week which would have precluded any real construction. From some of the photos I saw they are dismantling the trams and doing other small work which may including moving all the offices, wardrobe and more which can take a while (months not days) so my bet is we start to see minor destruction/construction sometime after New Years in early January with the start of the 2nd quarter.
Agreed. The fed does it at a much higher rate.
How about every other corporate theme park in the world (Universal, Six Flags, Cedar Fair, Sea World) that charges an arm and a leg just to buy a pass to skip the line of the rides you already paid to go on. Disney is the ONLY company that doesn't do this on a mass scale. Have you been to Halloween Horror Nights? Universal sells so many of them that even the Express lines are over 30 minutes. At Six Flags parks the prices for line skip passes have gone up over 500% in the past 10 years! (in 2004 they were $10 now they are tiered from $60-100), and they sell more of them than ever. And now they sell them ride by ride as well, so if a ride has a long line there is a sign at the entrance that says "skip the line right now for __$." That's like slap in your face greed. Actually its one of the reasons I enjoy visiting Disney Parks so much more than other parks, not being slapped in the face with ads to skip the lines everywhere I go (pay just $30-100 to skip the lines on the rides you've already paid to ride!)
You brought up your home parks Kings Island and Cedar Point: Cedar Point's most expensive coasters like TTD and Millennium Force cost around $25 million to build. Rides like Expedition Everest and Mission Space cost well over $100 million. Do you have any idea what the budgets are for Avatar, Star Wars, Rivers of Light, etc? These probably cost more than any other company will ever sniff. How about that Six Flags parking price of $25 which $17 at Disney? How about that $6 Coke at Cedar Point which is $3 at Disney? (Yes I have been to all these parks). I think Disney does a much better job at pretty much everything than Cedar Fair (as much as I loved waiting in a 30 minute line Rebel Yell at Kings Dominion while it was running a whopping 1 OUT OF 4 trains).
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wdwfan4ver
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I disagree with it being crazy in terms of getting away from the "studios" concept.
The truth is the concept was broken years ago. Eisner got a rid of the working studios part of the park years ago and part of the park was masquerading itself as a working studios including the backlot tour as a result. It doesn't make any sense to do a backlot tour if there isn't a working studio. You can not bring bring back the working studio part back to DHS either unless you want to get a rid of attractions like Toy Story Midway Mania.
The Studio concept of the park affected how was designed a first place. It affects why the park isn't the easiest to navigate for the guest and it really showed when Disney turned parts of the working studio like a sound stage into new sections of the park.
ariel90
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Because Tower of Terror and Rock N' Roller coster is there and if they demolish that I will do not nice things.
Disneyhead'71
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spacemt354
Chili's
I don't blame Disney. I blame the person who spends that much money. That's who's really at fault.