What if…Magic Kingdom was built today?

MickeyMouse10

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Those sequels could be awful though. So they’re not okay. And they also have at least two originals left to go.

They've already got a built in audience though. It's films like Elios that are going to do horrible. Because it's about characters we don't care about. The uncreatives can't come up with their own new characters or stories, they can only reuse ones that exist already.
 
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MickeyMouse10

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Disney's problems

Are firing people that don't deserve it (Depp, Lasseter, Carano)

and

Hiring people that don't deserve it (Nia Dacosta, Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy)
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
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@Disney Warrior If Magic Kingdom were built today, it would likely not be themed to Adventure, Frontier, Fantasy, and Tomorrow at all. It seems like the directive from TWDC for their theme parks today is the Universal style of lands themed to specific properties. The irony is that Magic Kingdom as originally constructed presents so much opportunity for multiple IPs in each land, but if they built it new, they probably wouldn't go this route. I could see Frozen, Lion King, Moana, Toy Story, and Cars being the IPs they select for their different lands. It would stink, too.

In my opinion, a good theme park needs attractions that can stand on their own; otherwise, you either have rides with expiration dates (which need to be updated or rethemed) or rides that represent IPs that have become evergreen. At a certain point, though, a park that is themed only to the five franchises I mentioned above would become stale, and you'd have to add a whole new land or retheme an existing one in order to move the park forward. It's a cycle that Magic Kingdom as originally constructed could avoid because of its lands themed to general ideas rather than particular properties.

I feel like when looking at most of the Universal parks, there's going to be a time when most of the rides there will need to be updated or replaced because they are almost exclusively tied to IPs.
 

WaltWiz1901

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If Magic Kingdom were built today, it would likely not be themed to Adventure, Frontier, Fantasy, and Tomorrow at all. It seems like the directive from TWDC for their theme parks today is the Universal style of lands themed to specific properties. The irony is that Magic Kingdom as originally constructed presents so much opportunity for multiple IPs in each land, but if they built it new, they probably wouldn't go this route. I could see Frozen, Lion King, Moana, Toy Story, and Cars being the IPs they select for their different lands. It would stink, too.

In my opinion, a good theme park needs attractions that can stand on their own; otherwise, you either have rides with expiration dates (which need to be updated or rethemed) or rides that represent IPs that have become evergreen. At a certain point, though, a park that is themed only to the five franchises I mentioned above would become stale, and you'd have to add a whole new land or retheme an existing one in order to move the park forward. It's a cycle that Magic Kingdom as originally constructed could avoid because of its lands themed to general ideas rather than particular properties.

I feel like when looking at most of the Universal parks, there's going to be a time when most of the rides there will need to be updated or replaced because they are almost exclusively tied to IPs.
You win the thread...even more than the Warrior did (other than a few differences here and there, his take on a modern MK isn't too dissimilar from the real MK today)

In hindsight, it's somewhat telling - and a bit miraculous - that Shanghai Disneyland's initial attraction lineup was set in stone by 2010, since had development begun even only a few years later, there's a non-zero chance that it would more likely resemble what you hypothesized.

Doubly more of a problem when Imagineering phones the IP du jour in instead of using it to an advantage or going above and beyond with it (plenty of examples of either scenario, if not both, exist across nearly every resort). All the more reason why trying to chase the Wizarding World (and failing most of the time) is a fruitless endeavor that they should just give up on
 

Disney Warrior

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I couldn’t even imagine what Epcot would be like if it were built today (though it would be such a dystopia), but I think Future World would become IP World and would World Showcase even be built? The park would probably be called something like “Disney's Discovery World“ or something
 

MickeyMouse10

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I couldn’t even imagine what Epcot would be like if it were built today (though it would be such a dystopia), but I think Future World would become IP World and would World Showcase even be built? The park would probably be called something like “Disney's Discovery World“ or something

Yeah, judging from the horrid name they're going to use for Walt Disney Studios in Paris. Epcot might be called Disney's Dream Wonder Adventure World.
 

AidenRodriguez731

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Let's start with Main Street, which would now be Mickey Avenue, as in Shanghai Disneyland. This land would be themed to Mickey and friends, of course, and it would add more IPs. The place where you can meet Mickey is now home to all of the Sensational Six. Don't worry, the railroad's still here. It's just that this land doesn't have a turn-of-the-century theme anymore.
Onto Adventureland, which has seen some changes. The Swiss Family Treehouse is swapped out for the Adventureland Treehouse from Disneyland, and the carpets would still exist. But unfortunately, the Tiki Room wouldn't exist. Instead, a new show themed to Moana (retelling the movie) would replace it. The Jungle Cruise would still exist (Disney's not that evil) but with more ties to SEA and random Disney character cameos. Pirates would still exist, except that it would be entirely based on the movies (and it uses the Shanghai ride system).
Frontierland isn't really unrecognizable, but in a way it is. First of all, Tom Sawyer Island wouldn't exist, it (and the Rivers of America as a whole) would be replaced by the Cars themed experience that they're adding in our world. Tiana's Bayou Adventure would be built, and Big Thunder Mountain wouldn't be built. It would be replaced by a coaster themed to Toy Story that only vaguely fits “Frontierland” (it would be themed to Woody's Roundup and have a design more suited for Fantasyland. The shooting gallery obviously wouldn't exist, and neither would the Country Bears (sadly). The latter would be replaced by a show featuring Mickey Mouse and friends (and possibly Toy Story characters too)

See what other changes are made in the next part.
I feel like I cannot possibly roll my eyes at this more if I tried. This is hardly an actual thought experiment and just Disney Rant #4310.

I was genuinekly interested in seeing what people would think got built now so its a little disappoitning.
 

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Splash Mountain would be Tiana-themed. Oh, wait! Damn right I'm salty. Like a day old Mickey pretzel. Turn a beloved attraction into a straight up turd. They should teach classes about this in Imagineering. Let it be a teaching moment.
 

MickeyMouse10

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Splash Mountain would be Tiana-themed. Oh, wait! Damn right I'm salty. Like a day old Mickey pretzel. Turn a beloved attraction into a straight up turd. They should teach classes about this in Imagineering. Let it be a teaching moment.

Yep, Splash Mountain was probably my 3rd favorite attraction, behind Haunted Mansion and Pirates. Much like The Great Movie Ride it will be sorely missed. I didn't even go on Tiana's during my trip in September. It's such a worse version of the ride I just couldn't bring myself to go on.

Even if I did want to go on it always seemed to be broken down. And I didn't want to risk getting stuck on it. It's so bad I've been calling it Tiana's Toilet Adventure. It's not a dependable flush though, the logs don't always go down.
 
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Miru

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I'm glad we can still get the gem of name calling like "Tiana's Toilet Adventure". If we're going to be hypercritical over this, atleast pick a funny name or smth.
Who knows? If enough people keep voting Republican we could eventually get Splash Mountain back as Splash Mountain With Br’er Rabbit (like JII with Figment), complete with a Tiana Moon singing Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah!
 
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MickeyMouse10

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Who knows? If enough people keep voting Republican we could eventually get Splash Mountain back as Splash Mountain With Br’er Rabbit (like JII with Figment), complete with a Tiana Moon singing Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah!

Unfortunately for us, Disney would rather turn Frontierland into Front Tire Land than admit their mistake.

They got real geniuses working for them now. Somehow the section is going to be about Modern Cars and New Orleans in 1927. Do any of these modern "Supposed" Imagineers have anymore bad ideas? How about more screen rides and rollercoasters, so they can be even more like Universal and take away all the specialness of a Disney park.
 

Miru

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Unfortunately for us, Disney would rather turn Frontierland into Front Tire Land than admit their mistake.

They got real geniuses working for them now. Somehow the section is going to be about Modern Cars and New Orleans in 1927. Do any of these modern "Supposed" Imagineers have anymore bad ideas? How about more screen rides and rollercoasters, so they can be even more like Universal and take away all the specialness of a Disney park.
Meanwhile Universal actually improves. Eventually, Disney admits defeat and turns into becoming more like Six Flags instead of Universal.
 

AidenRodriguez731

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Unfortunately for us, Disney would rather turn Frontierland into Front Tire Land than admit their mistake.

They got real geniuses working for them now. Somehow the section is going to be about Modern Cars and New Orleans in 1927. Do any of these modern "Supposed" Imagineers have anymore bad ideas? How about more screen rides and rollercoasters, so they can be even more like Universal and take away all the specialness of a Disney park.

It's interesting that the Bears and Splash got a pass for not existing in the same timeline or location but Tiana's get constantly dunked on for it... I wonder what the difference is...

For example... we KNOW for a FACT that Country Bear Jamboree (the OG one) takes place after the year 1928 and the building is styled like a Tennesse building.

Song of the South takes place in Georgia, and as the story is literally named the SOUTH. It is a story passed through the Southern US+ the Carribean. Which part of that is the American frontier. Let's not even mention when/where Tom Sawyer would take place because I fear you could not handle the idea that all of the attractions of Frontierland are based on different regions of explored America.

But Tiana gets the hate?
 

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