What Happens to WDW / Disney Parks during a massive correction / recession?

Lilofan

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Yes I remember doing almost the entire MK in that time frame. It was wonderful!!!
How Magic Kingdom gets cleaned if at all when the park closes at 4am and reopens at 7am? That’s amazing. I met a fellow guest at DHS years ago on NYE at 9am. He said his family will stay till the end- 3am closing time.
 

maemae74

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How Magic Kingdom gets cleaned if at all when the park closes at 4am and reopens at 7am? That’s amazing. I met a fellow guest at DHS years ago on NYE at 9am. He said his family will stay till the end- 3am closing time.
I think it was 2013 there was an all nighter at MK it was at the end of May . We flew in that morning got to MK around noon and made it until about 3am. Needless to say the next day was a planned do nothing day. I literally felt like I had a hangover but hadn't had a drop to drink. I wish they would bring stuff like that back
 

thomas998

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Ah, 2009-2010. While bad from an overall economic sense, that time was incredible for discounts. Not only did they offer buy four, get three free resort nights, this overlapped with gift card promotions for each room, and “free admission” (in the form of a gift card) on your birthday.

Given these promotions, I believe we stayed at Pop Century for $45/night that year.
Yep, the best option for US visitors is when the world's economy goes down the toilet while the US just slumps a bit... but this time around it looks like it may be more hurt on the US visitors than on the international visitors... so that isn't going to be as close to the 2009-10 time.
 

Brad Bishop

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I think that they think that they have enough "top earners" who are above the fray of recession that they can keep chugging along looking for that max market price. Yeah, the middle class will be affected but that's not (or not going to be) Disney's core audience.

I bet that there's some chart inside Disney that shows that the population has grown enough to where there's enough top-enders to keep Disney afloat during the down times. This would largely have to do with Disney being a "limited resource". They're not building any more parks and there's no chance of another WDW like resort opening in the USA. They have a limited resource and can cater to the high-end folks who'll have money, recession or not.
 

Lilofan

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Yes, WDW MAY offer discounts in a Recession.
But there is now a new wrinkle ... GETTING There, and BACK Again.

Unless you can drive? WDW's clientele will be wacked by non-performing Airlines :(. And there is virtually nothing WDW can do about this issue :(.
The cancellations lately of a number of flights are a concern. Surely a huge impact to start or return for an expensive WDW vacation. If it a cruise, the boat will not wait for you.
 

Smiley/OCD

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I think that they think that they have enough "top earners" who are above the fray of recession that they can keep chugging along looking for that max market price. Yeah, the middle class will be affected but that's not (or not going to be) Disney's core audience.

I bet that there's some chart inside Disney that shows that the population has grown enough to where there's enough top-enders to keep Disney afloat during the down times. This would largely have to do with Disney being a "limited resource". They're not building any more parks and there's no chance of another WDW like resort opening in the USA. They have a limited resource and can cater to the high-end folks who'll have money, recession or not.
I’m sure there IS a chart like you speak of and it’s probably hanging in Chappie’s office…he looks at it everyday before the staff meeting to see what else he can squeeze out of their guests…the surprise will be on him…that will be the first thing the BoD makes him take off the wall when he’s fired and cleaning out his office…
 

DfromATX

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I honestly don’t know how travel hasn’t shut down already??

AAA reported record travel again on Memorial Day? I have a hard time believing that can hold when fuel is 2x the price…

A $2 an hour covid raise (if that in actuality) has long been eclipsed by prices. And the “free market” demands it pre-decides what it’s profits will be.
I just read yesterday that travel is so high in Europe now and it's so crowded that tour agencies can't keep up with all the visitors.
 

Lilofan

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I just read yesterday that travel is so high in Europe now and it's so crowded that tour agencies can't keep up with all the visitors.
I believe it. Several nurses I know stressed out are going on getaway vacations. Get out of the USA and go to Europe and other points in the world.Disney is not one of them.
 

Richie248

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The cancellations lately of a number of flights are a concern. Surely a huge impact to start or return for an expensive WDW vacation. If it a cruise, the boat will not wait for you.

Yes, air travel is a mess right now. If I had a cruise booked I would plan to arrive a day or two early. I travel quite a bit for work and most every flight I've taken the past month has been delayed or cancelled.
 

Jrb1979

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I’m sure there IS a chart like you speak of and it’s probably hanging in Chappie’s office…he looks at it everyday before the staff meeting to see what else he can squeeze out of their guests…the surprise will be on him…that will be the first thing the BoD makes him take off the wall when he’s fired and cleaning out his office…
Don't worry the next will just put it back up. A lot of these changes were planned when Iger was in charge.
 

Lilofan

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Yes, air travel is a mess right now. If I had a cruise booked I would plan to arrive a day or two early. I travel quite a bit for work and most every flight I've taken the past month has been delayed or cancelled.
If we arrive early at Port Canaveral, Cocoa Beach nightlife and entertainment isn’t exactly mind blowing like South Beach. I wouldn’t mind arriving a day early in Miami, party at SoBe and catch the boat at the port of Miami.
 

disneyflush

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What I found out is there is VERY limited supply of Genie+/Lightening Lanes available. I thought I could just pay my way to no lines and a great day. I was geared up (money set aside) to skip 10-20 a day. Nope, not how it works at all. We got to skip maybe 4-5 lines over 2 days. Disney is doing a poor job at maximizing profit if selling Genie+/Lightening Lanes is the goal.

My theory is demand is so great there would be no non-paid access to rides anymore if Disney opened up unlimited Genie+/Lightening Lanes.


Selling as many Genie+ as possible is the goal. They do seem to have defined limits on the paid Lightning Lanes they are putting up for sale each day which certainly supports that part of your experience.
 

DfromATX

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If we arrive early at Port Canaveral, Cocoa Beach nightlife and entertainment isn’t exactly mind blowing like South Beach. I wouldn’t mind arriving a day early in Miami, party at SoBe and catch the boat at the port of Miami.

We cruised out of Port Canaveral at the end of April. I was so nervous about everything (from delays to Covid, etc.) but everything was "smooth sailing" - the flights there and back and the cruise itself. (We flew in the day before.) No issues at all! That port is so much more organized and efficient than my home port (Galveston). But yeah, not much excitement in that area like I would imagine to be in Miami.
 

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