What effect does the potential sale of the Busch parks have on Disney?

csmat99

Well-Known Member
Busch is the problem here too. Because they wanted more money they allowed themselves to be sellouts and got bought. Money doesnt buy happiness.

If Busch really wanted to keep the business, they would have said no to more money just like Yahoo did to Microsoft.

Busch didn't have a choice. They didn't control the board. Inbev had the money (Euro is crushing the dollar) and influence to vote out the current board if they wanted to. All Busch did was smart business. Got more money then the initial offer and got two seats on the board. I can only see some European financier buying them up. There is no rush to sell the parks.
 
I would love Busch Gardens Williamsburg to remain Disney-free. I'm so used to that park having great theme-ing without Mickey everywhere and uncommercialized (is that a word?) rides. I wonder if InBev will sell Kingsmill, the large housing development next to BG Williamsburg owned by Anheuser-Busch.
 
Not sure if this has already been said but, I think it would be amazing for disney to get BG Williamsburg and SP, but what would they do with BG Tampa? The only think I see if Disney buys these parks is them closing BG Tampa since it is the Animal Kingdom with roller coasters. They would move the animals to AK and then close the park. Other then that tragic flaw, I think Disney really should buy BG. Only a matter of time before they own Six Flags too :king:
 

csmat99

Well-Known Member
Not sure if this has already been said but, I think it would be amazing for disney to get BG Williamsburg and SP, but what would they do with BG Tampa? The only think I see if Disney buys these parks is them closing BG Tampa since it is the Animal Kingdom with roller coasters. They would move the animals to AK and then close the park. Other then that tragic flaw, I think Disney really should buy BG. Only a matter of time before they own Six Flags too :king:

I don't mean to be rude but this makes no sense. Disney wouldn't buy all of the parks and then close down certain ones. Busch Gardens Tampa does good business(4.4 million visitors). Disney will never buy any part of Six Flags. To be honest and people have said it already if Disney wants something in the DC/Virgina area they will just build it themselves.
 
I don't mean to be rude but this makes no sense. Disney wouldn't buy all of the parks and then close down certain ones. Busch Gardens Tampa does good business. Disney will never buy any part of Six Flags. To be honest and people have said it already if Disney wants something in the DC/Virgina area they will just build it themselves.


First off, I was joking about Six Flags. Second, I was just making a theroy. Yes Tampa does good business but why would Disney want that one? Now that i think about it, I would rather Disney had nothing to do with BG. They just dont seem to scream Disney to me and it would take a lot of work and money to make them feel like Disney Parks that Disney could use to fix issues with the parks they have
 

wickedfan07

Member
Why are we talking about Disney buying the Busch parks?

Anheuser-Busch is being bought out be a Belgian company who is likely to sell them. It looks like the buyer, InBev, is only interested in the beer operation, not entertainment.


For those who said it... Disney has tried once to build its own theme park in Virginia. Disney's America was planned during the mid-1990s, but was doomed by the attitude of the local government and the subsequent bad press. Without BGE, they're unlikely to get into that market in any large way ever again.
 

ms9220

New Member
Why are we talking about Disney buying the Busch parks?
Because I want The Walt Disney Company to buy Sea World and Bush Gardens I don't Want Six Flags or any other dumb Theme Park company Buy them up and turning a good company like Sea World to crap.
 

gnorth

Member
Someone correct me if I am wrong but doen't it take like 20-25 minutes to get from a Port Orleans Resort to Sea World. It takes that long to get to AK. So what's the big deal on logistics it just a different stop. Yes its outside the "property" but still does not take that long.
I can see Disney buying it all and keep Sea World and selling the gardens and other properties to someone else. Cedar fair maybe.
 

tazhughes

Member
Original Poster
I would love Busch Gardens Williamsburg to remain Disney-free. I'm so used to that park having great theme-ing without Mickey everywhere and uncommercialized (is that a word?) rides. I wonder if InBev will sell Kingsmill, the large housing development next to BG Williamsburg owned by Anheuser-Busch.

It appears from a number of articles that I have read, that Kingsmill is somehow within the parks division of the Busch corporate structure, because every article mentions Kingsmill being sold off with BG. There are a number of articles in Virginia papers addressing the fear of what might happen with the Williamsburg property due to the fact that Busch was a great corporate partner to the city and state.
 

tazhughes

Member
Original Poster
Someone correct me if I am wrong but doen't it take like 20-25 minutes to get from a Port Orleans Resort to Sea World. It takes that long to get to AK. So what's the big deal on logistics it just a different stop. Yes its outside the "property" but still does not take that long.
I can see Disney buying it all and keep Sea World and selling the gardens and other properties to someone else. Cedar fair maybe.

I don't think the issue would be the time it would take to get to the other park, but the fact that guests would be transported off property past numerous other lodging options and entertainment options. The guest would lose that feeling of being immersed in the Disney experience and I think would detract from the overall WDW brand. Although I do think Seaworld would be a nice addition to the family.
 

tazhughes

Member
Original Poster
Why are we talking about Disney buying the Busch parks?

Because it is being reported that InBev wishes to unload all of the noncore businesses from Anheuser Busch and there is a price tag of 4 billion dolalrs that has been thrown out there for the parks. The analysts that have looked at the market for these parks have more or less suggested that the only domestic theme park company that has the leverage right now to be able to acquire those parks is Disney. So the issue (and the reason I raised the question) is should Disney be interested and if so should they be interested in the whole family of parks or just simply pieces of that division?
 

RiversideBunny

New Member
Would Universal be interested in buying Busch Gardens in Florida to help solidify their presence in that state?

Seems more likely than the Disney Company having any interest in such a park.

:)
 

tazhughes

Member
Original Poster
Would Universal be interested in buying Busch Gardens in Florida to help solidify their presence in that state?

Seems more likely than the Disney Company having any interest in such a park.

:)

I believe that they would have to be interested. If they acquired the Florida properties that would give them a gate count that would rival Disney. (Please note that I said a gate count and I am in no way suggesting that they would be on par with Disney).

With that in mind, would Disney attempt to block their acquisition and drive the price up?
 
For those who said it... Disney has tried once to build its own theme park in Virginia. Disney's America was planned during the mid-1990s, but was doomed by the attitude of the local government and the subsequent bad press. Without BGE, they're unlikely to get into that market in any large way ever again.
That is so true. Purchasing Busch Gardens Virginia (Europe) is Disney's only way of ever having a major claim in the Virginia/DC area.
 

RiversideBunny

New Member
That is so true. Purchasing Busch Gardens Virginia (Europe) is Disney's only way of ever having a major claim in the Virginia/DC area.


Maybe it's no longer in the Disney Company's business plan to have a theme park presence in the VA/DC area.

All the investment is to be directed toward WDW in Orlando and let the VA/DC customers be attracted to it, as they are now.

:)
 

MythBuster

Active Member
Here is a good article in Sentinel about potential buyers:

After Anheuser-Busch sale, it could be a wild ride for brewer's attractions

Beth Kassab
Business Columnist
July 16, 2008
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Some corporate mergers sail by with hardly a whimper from consumers. Add theme parks with a devoted fan base into the equation, though, and you've got the makings of a high drama.

Such is the case with the purchase of Anheuser-Busch by Belgian beer giant InBev and speculation over what will become of Orlando-based Busch Entertainment Corp., which controls the company's 10 theme parks.

Internet chatter has pointed to everything from the parks being "closed as soon as possible" to giants like Microsoft or Exxon Mobil getting into the attractions business.

Let's put both of those ridiculous extremes to rest right here.

There are three likely scenarios for Busch Entertainment, whose Florida holdings include SeaWorld Orlando, Aquatica, Discovery Cove, Busch Gardens and Adventure Island. The parks' most likely fate is that a major European-based attractions operator will make a play for them. Considering the Busch parks would likely sell for a minimum of $3.5 billion and possibly more than $4 billion, just two big contenders appear potentially capable of pulling off such a deal.

One is Merlin Entertainments Group, which last year acquired The Tussauds Group -- owner of Madame Tussauds famous wax figures and The London Eye.

Merlin, which is based in England and also operates four Legoland parks and recently bought The London Aquarium, appears to be in rapid expansion mode since it was taken over in 2005 by Blackstone, a private-equity group that also owns a portion of Universal Parks and Resorts. Merlin claims the No. 2 spot after Disney on the worldwide list of top attractions operators with 55 attractions in 12 countries.

The group is planning to open a new Legoland in Dubai in 2011 and announced plans to open a Legoland and Pepsi Globe observation wheel in New Jersey in 2009.

Another likely suitor is Madrid-based Parques Reunidos, the second-largest parks operator in Europe and No. 7 worldwide. Lately, the company has been on the hunt for expansion opportunities in the United States.

Last month it bought Kennywood Entertainment USA, which includes three parks in Pittsburgh, one in Connecticut and one in New Hampshire.

While those parks are minor players in the industry -- especially compared with the Busch portfolio that is often likened to Disney or Universal in terms of quality and management -- it's important to note that Parques Reunidos runs several marine animal parks in Europe, including one in France that features killer whales. The idea that this company touts Shamu's European cousins as a main attraction has not gone unnoticed by industry watchers.

Parques Reunidos already boasts several Florida holdings including Silver Springs near Ocala.

Don't count out the possibility that while InBev considers the theme parks to be secondary to its core brewery business that it eventually decides to hold onto them. Last year Busch Entertainment reported $1.2 billion in sales and $262 million in profit.

After all, it was once widely thought that NBC would shed the Universal parks, but now seems settled on holding on to them.

Lastly, it's not hard to envision a scenario in which Busch Entertainment spins off on its own either as a public company or through a purchase by a private-equity firm.

Given the aggression with which the two European companies are expanding, however, and the appeal a weak dollar would add to what would be a once-in-a-lifetime auction of such iconic American theme parks, it's hard to imagine Merlin or Parques Reunidos giving up easily on a possible deal.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/orl-kassab1608jul16,0,5012862.column
 

uklad79

Member
Well the Sentinel agrees with my previous post about Merlin. I think they are the number one option for a take over unless it gets spun off as a separate company.
 

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