I hate having Disney IP in Epcot or at least the amount they have now but if I have to pick one it would have to be Grand Fiesta, same ride with the Three Caballeros. Even the song is similar but I’d prefer El Rio
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What’s your favorite Epcot Attraction with Disney IP?
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Sir_Cliff
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I haven't been on Guardians, but even if I had it would probably also be Gran Fiesta Tour as it still has at least some of the charm of the original El Rio del Tiempo.
I've only been on Ratatouille in Paris and enjoy it, but Gran Fiesta Tour just gives me a little hit of vintage Disney nostalgia that makes me find it one of the more underrated attractions at the park.
DisneyFanatic12
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I find Gran Fiesta Tour to be quite fun. It might be a little all over the place thematically, but it is quite fun for me.
The only one I’d say I don’t enjoy is the Seas with Nemo and Friends. The tunnel with the sea turtles (the EAC) is obviously needed but is much too long. Too much going on and too many bubbles and turtles going between the projector overlaps for the projectors to be out of sync. The syncing of the projectors has gotten much better, but it still isn’t smooth and can be disorienting. The deep-sea anglerfish chasing Marlin is quite cool, but the phase in which it is frozen in place is much too long (some cars almost get past the entire scene before they unfreeze). Anyways, I wouldn’t say I dislike Nemo, but I don’t prefer it over anything else.
I feel like Figment is an IP now (so much merchandise, name recognition, etc.), but what do you think? Do you think that Figment is an IP (or deserves to be, as Disney clearly sees him as one already)?
The only one I’d say I don’t enjoy is the Seas with Nemo and Friends. The tunnel with the sea turtles (the EAC) is obviously needed but is much too long. Too much going on and too many bubbles and turtles going between the projector overlaps for the projectors to be out of sync. The syncing of the projectors has gotten much better, but it still isn’t smooth and can be disorienting. The deep-sea anglerfish chasing Marlin is quite cool, but the phase in which it is frozen in place is much too long (some cars almost get past the entire scene before they unfreeze). Anyways, I wouldn’t say I dislike Nemo, but I don’t prefer it over anything else.
I feel like Figment is an IP now (so much merchandise, name recognition, etc.), but what do you think? Do you think that Figment is an IP (or deserves to be, as Disney clearly sees him as one already)?
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SpectreJordan
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Guardians is my favorite ride at Disney, so that's technically my answer. But despite my love for it, I don't think it belongs in EPCOT.
I feel out of the IPs that Ratatouille fits the best. Especially since the movie showed a lot for Paris & parts of its culture.
I feel out of the IPs that Ratatouille fits the best. Especially since the movie showed a lot for Paris & parts of its culture.
osian
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Cosmic Rewind, because it's the only one where the ride itself can hold its own regardless of the theme. All the others are just a transport mechanism through a story so need the theme and story to carry them, and none of them have a story that is interesting, relevant or strong enough for me. For example, I have absolutely no interest in the story of a fictional cartoon princess, whereas I'd have a great deal of interest in a ride that took me through the story of Norway.
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Sweet tears
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I think the tunnel is the best part of this attraction.
osian
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Technically, anything that Disney owns is an IP, so yes, Figment is an IP character regardless. However, in this specific usage, we would tend to think of IP as being something that is being marketed as a brand in itself in places out of its original context, including brands of companies taken over by Disney. If Figment was just used inside the Imagination pavilion and used to market that, we wouldn't think of it as being out of context. But Figment is now seen as the official mascot of Epcot, and the face of the Festival of Arts, and appears in marketing that has nothing to do with the Imagination pavilion, so yes, Figment is IP in those sorts of terms too. A brand in itself that is marketed outside its original context.
It would be as if Constance Hatchaway was marketed as the mascot of Magic Kingdom.
Whether Figment should be used in that way is another matter. Personally, I think no, as it undermines their original story. But it gets guests spending more money. Allegedly. It all boils down to integrity, which I think current Disney has lost a sense of in many ways.
If Journey into Imagination was an attraction that was actually worth people spending money on merchandise for, Figment could hold his own as an exclusive to that attraction. But, his existence doesn't make sense without Dreamfinder...
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Sir_Cliff
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This is where I'm pretty ok with the Three Caballeros in the Mexico Pavilion ride. At least that ride still takes you on a tour of Mexico, just with the characters zipping in and out. It's weaker in terms of trying to educate people about the country's history and culture than El Rio del Tiempo, but a tour through the country still seems in the general spirit of World Showcase.
Walt Disney1955
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If people in Mexico said "Hey, we can do a ride just like 'Small World'" it would be Gran Fiesta Tour. So I'll take that one. It is sort of tucked away on its own. Classic Disney though. Haven't done Guardians yet, nor Ratatouille. Frozen is alright. If it was done on its own and not replacing Maelstrom it might get a little more love.
graphite1326
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Gran Fiesta Tour mainly because it is close to the original and still is about Mexico.
Even the music is very similar, same tune different l words and vocals and a bit faster.
Musical Mermaid
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Huge Beauty and the Beast fan, but this needs to go away. It reminds me of those bonus features on dvds and is ridiculously bad. Can we get a Beauty and the Beast ride somewhere in WDW instead?
I vote for Gran Fiesta Tour.
TrainsOfDisney
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Ratatouille for sure - if didnt replace anything and I really enjoyed it. Ideally they would have made it a bit more about Remy showing you France but it still feels very appropriate for the pavilion and is a solid addition.
2. Mexico boat ride - adding the 3 cabelleros is pretty harmless and the ride feels the same.
3. Seas with Nemo - fits the theme.
4. Frozen - fun attraction but belongs in another park
5. Guardians - shouldn’t be in Epcot at all. Bring back the Dino’s!
6. Beauty & Beast - this should not exist period.
2. Mexico boat ride - adding the 3 cabelleros is pretty harmless and the ride feels the same.
3. Seas with Nemo - fits the theme.
4. Frozen - fun attraction but belongs in another park
5. Guardians - shouldn’t be in Epcot at all. Bring back the Dino’s!
6. Beauty & Beast - this should not exist period.
SyracuseDisneyFan
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Frozen Ever After