Wdw Security

[CAPTAIN HOOK]

Well, there I was last night trying to get to sleep when this thought hit me..........hard.
All WDW parks have security baggage checks for all guests entering the parks - right. How re-assuring :lol:
What happens before the guest arrives at the baggage check ?
April 23rd last year we packed our cases, loaded up the 4x4 and headed off for a morning in EPCOT before leaving for the airport. We had the wifes disabled mother with us and used her pass for front of park parking access. I parked the vehicle virtually underneath the monorail line. Now supposing that there weren't clothes in those suitcases - It doesn't take a moment to consider the catastrophe that could happen.
Why aren't vehicles checked as they wait at the toll booth ??

 

[General Grizz]

Before they even think about checking vehicles, Disney should actually check the bags entering that parks.


:lookaroun :brick:

 

[FanofDinsey1981]

Originally posted by General Grizz
Before they even think about checking vehicles, Disney should actually check the bags entering that parks.


:lookaroun :brick:

yeah, exactly. glancing in my bag does nothing for security, only to slow me down. like I am going to show you anything bad! if they were absolutly serious about bag checking, they would have metal dectectors and x-ray machines out.

 

[Spyke9900]

I agree. Yes, the security would be nice but they aren't doing a good job about it. My hubby and I went to Kennedy. They have good security. They wouldn't let anyone take anything that looked like a purse in but they let mothers take diaper bags in. Come on. I'm not a mother yet but they should have clear bags that they should only take what they need in it. I had a small one opening back pack at I carry the camera, ibuprofen, pen, sm note pad and water. I still could not take it in. Plus they have you turn your cell phone, camera, & video cameras on. Who knows. They are just as bad as the airports. A BIG joke. :lol:

 

[JBSLJames]

PKI has the metal detectors out front. Last year, as I went through and handed my keys over, I had to remove a small knife from my key chain. This was a small 2.5 inch blade I always carry for cutting into boxes, ripping open packing tape, stabbing small, unexpecting wasps in the back of the thorax...They gave me a claim ticket to pick up at the end of the day.

As the year progressed, the 'security' got more and more lax. We have one of those pull behind wagons with storage under the seat that they don't check anymore.

 

[MrNonacho]

How about we let this dead horse RIP? We know there are flaws with Disney's security procedures.

I for one am not willing to put up with a vehicle search each and every time I go through a plaza.

 

[WDWHeadBanger]

Obviously its just an illussion of security. Its so if something happens, it looks like Disney tried to do something to stop it. I feel that security, as is, is irritating and a waste of time. They either need to tighten up to make it effective, or throw it out.

 

[Becky]

I think the purpose of most "Security" , other than at Airports, is for insurance purposes.

On my Dec/Jan trip they were no longer "searching" to the bottom of backpacks. The people just opened the top "Security" said thanks and waved them on their way.

If people had long or bulkey coats on they could walk over to the no bag lines and go stright in. Just think of all the goodies that fit under a hugh coat. Reminds me of one of the "Airport' movies where the Nuns got stopped by a dozen "security guys" while 4-5 guys carrying machine guns etc were waived through.

 

[mkt]

They security checks don't serve any purpose other than to make guests feel safe. The inconsistency with the bag checks between individual security CM's is proof of that. As well as the fact, that if I wanted to enter the park with anything I'm not supposed to bring in, it's going on my body and not in my bag.

 

[xfkirsten]

Disneyland's is the same way. Last week, I had a small bottle of Malibu in my backpack that I had totally forgotten about, and didn't find til the end of the night. Security missed it on three separate bag checks.

Sometimes at DL, though, they will also make you take off your jacket and let them check it.

-Kirsten

 

[andre85]

You guys seem to be forgetting the time factor involved. Do you recall those long security lines at the airport? Good, now multiply that by a factor of thousands. If you don’t mind waiting 3 hours to get into a park, then great. Furthermore, it’s obvious the majority of Disney’s guests are good-natured people, seeing as how a catastrophe hasn't occurred yet. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Disney’s security checked suspicious bags more thoroughly than others (racial profiling being an example; which I’m completely for). Odds are a wheel chair bound, eighty year old woman has nothing to hide as opposed to someone of mid-eastern decent (potentially; albeit rarely).

 

[xfkirsten]

Originally posted by andre85
You guys seem to be forgetting the time factor involved. Do you recall those long security lines at the airport? Good, now multiply that by a factor of thousands. If you don’t mind waiting 3 hours to get into a park, then great. Furthermore, it’s obvious the majority of Disney’s guests are good-natured people, seeing as how a catastrophe hasn't occurred yet. I imagine the security gates serve as more of a deterrent that anything else. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Disney’s security checked suspicious bags more thoroughly than others (racial profiling being an example; which I’m completely for). Odds are a wheel chair bound, eighty year old woman has nothing to hide as opposed to someone of mid-eastern decent (potentially; albeit rarely).

The part you're forgetting is that things are NOT always as they seem. What looks benign can easily be dangerous, if someone's taken the time and forethought to try to make themseslves look innocuous.

-Kirsten

 

[PhotoDave219]

As much as i am willing to point out to Disney Security its shortcommings, I'm not necessarily sure its our place to be pointing it out to the ENTIRE WORLD on the internet.

Lets NOT give anybody any ideas of what to do.\ by pointing out what holes there are.

 

[andre85]

Originally posted by xfkirsten
The part you're forgetting is that things are NOT always as they seem. What looks benign can easily be dangerous, if someone's taken the time and forethought to try to make themseslves look innocuous.

-Kirsten

I didn't forget anything. Right now the biggest threat is imposed from the mid-eastern nations. Thus a likely terrorist would be of that decent, it's fairly hard to disguise race. Regardless, let's say someone did strap bombs to their body and were found out at the security gates. So what? He'll just blow himself up there as opposed to inside the park. If you're really that concerned that Disney may be attacked, simply don't go.

 

[andre85]

Originally posted by PhotoDave219
As much as i am willing to point out to Disney Security its shortcommings, I'm not necessarily sure its our place to be pointing it out to the ENTIRE WORLD on the internet.

Lets NOT give anybody any ideas of what to do.\ by pointing out what holes there are.

That’s ridiculous. I doubt that any terrorist is going to be surfing on Disney message boards with the intent of looking for topic threads that just so happen to be discussing the "holes" in Disney’s security.

 

[NashvilleMouse]

Originally posted by andre85
That’s ridiculous. I doubt that any terrorist is going to be surfing on Disney message boards with the intent of looking for topic threads that just so happen to be discussing the "holes" in Disney’s security.

Yeah, like accidentally making it "slip out" that a cast member named James at gate four of the EPCOT northern entrance won't even check your bags if you slip him a $5 bill... oops :lookaroun

That's ok. According to some commercials in California, I already support terrorists by driving an SUV.

I don't mind if they have to go through my wife's purse. It makes me feel safe and if they have the guts to go digging through that thing... all the power to 'em.

 

[andre85]

Originally posted by NashvilleMouse
Yeah, like accidentally making it "slip out" that a cast member named James at gate four of the EPCOT northern entrance won't even check your bags if you slip him a $5 bill... oops :lookaroun

That's ok. According to some commercials in California, I already support terrorists by driving an SUV.

I don't mind if they have to go through my wife's purse. It makes me feel safe and if they have the guts to go digging through that thing... all the power to 'em.

I don’t know whether you were being sarcastic or not. However, the aforementioned posts have not pointed out anything that wasn’t blatantly obvious. Secondly, if one had such bribing knowledge, I would be highly suspicious of the person who purveyed this information. As for the security guard, that’d be a breach of his contract with Disney and should be reported immediately. Of course, seeing as how all of the aforementioned facets were highly theoretical and thus exceedingly unlikely to happen, it essentially negates itself. Not to mention that even if the your example occured, the odds that a potential terrorist is on this forum - extracting this knowledge - is quite nil.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Call me paranoid, or simply call it knowing how to do research on the internet.

If you were looking at the mouse from the other side of this discussion, wouldn't you look to see what's out here on the internet about any possible holes?

I'm just saying that IMO its not the best idea in the world to point out the shortcommings of Disney Security in such a public forum. If you dont agree, thats fine, i just think its naive to undeestimate anyone with un-disneylike intentions.

 

[xfkirsten]

Originally posted by PhotoDave219
As much as i am willing to point out to Disney Security its shortcommings, I'm not necessarily sure its our place to be pointing it out to the ENTIRE WORLD on the internet.

Lets NOT give anybody any ideas of what to do.\ by pointing out what holes there are.

Too true. Security may be lacking, but pointing out their errors publicly certainly does not help the situation.

-Kirsten

 

[BRER STITCH]

Security ANYWHERE is in place mainly to apply PROFILING methods to uncover suspicious people and behavior.

There's a lot more that should be going on there than a glance through your bag. It's watching for "exceptional" behavior and movements.

It works they way it should.....without you knowing!