Virtual Queue Unnecessary Restriction

TrainsOfDisney

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It’s also terrible to force guests to a specific time. I’m not going to miss Fireworks, or Candlelight, or Broadway concert, etc. if my boarding group gets called.

It’s terrible to force guests like that.
 

DisneyDefenders

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Knowing precisely when to tap on the button in the app has everything to do with it. I got BG #1 on consecutive days for TRON and Guardians when we were there last fall by watching the atomic clock time on my PC with the NIST website pulled up in our rental house while my finger hovered over the Refresh button in the Disney app. There was no luck involved.

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Good for you. Considering that the 7 am virtual queues typically fill up in seconds, and that only a few get into the first few boarding groups, it is very much based on luck. You can deny that all you want, but the fact remains that there is no reason that those who are in later boarding groups that may not be called by 1 pm, should not be allowed to join a second virtual queue at 1 pm, just as they are currently allowed to do even with an active virtual queue, if joining a queue for extra magic hours.
 

RoadiJeff

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Good for you. Considering that the 7 am virtual queues typically fill up in seconds, and that only a few get into the first few boarding groups, it is very much based on luck. You can deny that all you want, but the fact remains that there is no reason that those who are in later boarding groups that may not be called by 1 pm, should not be allowed to join a second virtual queue at 1 pm, just as they are currently allowed to do even with an active virtual queue, if joining a queue for extra magic hours.
You can keep saying that it is luck all you want but it is skill that gets you into a VQ when the slots fill up within a few seconds, unless you happen to have one of those secret apps that do it for you. You just need fast fingers and a bit of instinct on when to exactly press the Refresh button a few milliseconds before the atomic clock shows 7:00am or 1:00pm on your screen. It works for me, no luck involved.
 
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LittleBuford

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It’s also terrible to force guests to a specific time. I’m not going to miss Fireworks, or Candlelight, or Broadway concert, etc. if my boarding group gets called.

It’s terrible to force guests like that.
“Terrible” is a bit dramatic, no? You have an hour’s return window, plus I believe they still honour your place in the queue if you show up later than that.
 

LittleBuford

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An hour return window that is completely unknown and unpredictable. Yes it’s terrible compared to the old way in my experience and opinion.
It’s not completely unknown; you’re given an estimate of when your group will be called. Sure, in the case of something with technical issues like Tiana’s Bayou Adventure, that estimate may prove to be wildly off, but I don’t see how that’s any worse than standing for ages in a physical queue only to be turned away because the ride has gone down.
 

RoadiJeff

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BG1 was developed by a Touring Plans forum user and is still free. He was the first to develop it into an app, and then others created their own, and often charged for it.
Wow, I didn't even know that such a thing existed for free. A google search when I was looking for an aftermarket app to help with getting a virtual queue the other day didn't turn up anything. I read about the BG1 just now and it is interesting. I like to tinker. ;)
 

DisneyDefenders

Active Member
Original Poster
You can keep saying that it is luck all you want but it is skill that gets you into a VQ when the slots fill up within a few seconds, unless you happen to have one of those secret apps that do it for you. You just need fast fingers and a bit of instinct on when to exactly press the Refresh button a few milliseconds before the atomic clock shows 7:00am or 1:00pm on your screen. It works for me, no luck involved.
Ummm...your assertion assumes that there are an infinite number of slots available. The reason it is a lottery is because everyone who tries your method does not necessarily get into virtual queue, because there are limited slots, but more to my point, my issue is that those who are using your same method and end up in a boarding group that gets called after 1 pm, just got unluckly and there is no good reason that the system needs to he setup that way.
 

RoadiJeff

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Ummm...your assertion assumes that there are an infinite number of slots available. The reason it is a lottery is because everyone who tries your method does not necessarily get into virtual queue, because there are limited slots, but more to my point, my issue is that those who are using your same method and end up in a boarding group that gets called after 1 pm, just got unluckly and there is no good reason that the system needs to he setup that way.
Not at all. If someone cannot get a VQ by using the method I described it is because they were not fast enough with their timing and fingers. If they are just slightly slow, they might get a high number BG that gets called after 1:00pm but, then again, it is because they were too slow when they tapped the Refresh button a few milliseconds before 7:00am. No luck involved, just skill and knowing how to work the system.
 

jaklgreen

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An hour return window that is completely unknown and unpredictable. Yes it’s terrible compared to the old way in my experience and opinion.
But would you rather the ride have 4+ hours long line? I think Guardians can go off of VQ by now. But Tron might still need it. I rather just take my chances at the VQ or buy the ILL then have the standby line be hours long.
 

Vacationeer

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In the Parks
No
VQ was a worthwhile compromise to us. We visited the first week VQ began at WDW. Yes it limited us to one per day ride but it also saved us from coming to the park hours before open, waiting on 3 hour lines for RotR, or needing to miss Fantasmic to get on line at park close. In the beginning there was enough demand of people willing to wait 2+ hours to keep that queue filled consistently at 150+ minute waits. That’s not fun for me. My idea of vacation does not include hours spent on each of the most popular ride lines. Tell me 5pm and 45 minute wait? 1000% better in my eyes.

I can understand how it might not be a good compromise for people using DAS, who’d rather be able to request the same ride multiple times in one day. They didn’t have to think about standing on a hours long line each time. They could go eat, take photos, a nap, other rides, whatever. In that way the experience and compromise cost is quite different.
 

MickeyLuv'r

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Knowing precisely when to tap on the button in the app has everything to do with it. I got BG #1 on consecutive days for TRON and Guardians when we were there last fall by watching the atomic clock time on my PC with the NIST website pulled up in our rental house while my finger hovered over the Refresh button in the Disney app. There was no luck involved.

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I am thinking the distance from WDW also helped. Part of VQ success is the quality of one's connection. Within WDW, it is variable.

MANY times over, we've done the same as you, and the system jammed. On prior visits, it was my phone that consistently reacted better than others in my party. This summer, my phone consistently got bogged down, but another member of my party had repeated success.

When the system doesn't get flaky on us, we get a low number. I did very well back when you had to be in HS to get a VQ for Rise.

Another time, we were at a restaurant, and the host called us just exactly at 1pm. I didn't want to be rude and ignore them, so that's another bit of oddity with the VQ system.
 

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