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VIDEO - July 4 crowds at Disney's Hollywood Studios
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Goofyernmost
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Well, now we know why no one goes to DHS anymore...it's too crowded! 
Magenta Panther
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Yup, this is why I always visit the World in early spring or late fall...Nice crowd turnout and probably fitting since DHS has but a few proper fireworks shows left to display.
With respect to July 4th attendance, because I have REALLY been thorough in my research the past two weeks:
MK: 3 and 4 were insane. On target and the usual for this time year. The days leading up to 7/3 were unseasonably slow
Epcot: Below projection. Still busy
DHS: At projection, busy, tremendously lower volume than years past. Park attendance did not even reach levels that are sustained during Osbourne Spectacle*
AK: No one goes to DAK on 7/4. Just kidding. Actually above projection, which is typically low
Universal smoked every Disney park on 7/4 except for MK. Hard. 100k day all-in between the two parks.
If the above video was displayed for the sole purpose of displaying crowds at DHS before a fireworks show so that someone can say "look at the crowds, this park has no problems!", that would be a bit.... Eh. Let's not go there.
The DHS fireworks show was very good. I wish Mulch, Sweat and Tears were pulled off the stage and a proper band booked for this event though. Take away the dumb hat and this fireworks show feels like something that could have gone down in Mississippi.
* Also forgot to mention that DHS fireworks prep requires large swaths of the park to be closed off, reducing a substantial chunk of the park's in-park cap. I think the trade off is worth it. I like watching fireworks go boom.
With respect to July 4th attendance, because I have REALLY been thorough in my research the past two weeks:
MK: 3 and 4 were insane. On target and the usual for this time year. The days leading up to 7/3 were unseasonably slow
Epcot: Below projection. Still busy
DHS: At projection, busy, tremendously lower volume than years past. Park attendance did not even reach levels that are sustained during Osbourne Spectacle*
AK: No one goes to DAK on 7/4. Just kidding. Actually above projection, which is typically low
Universal smoked every Disney park on 7/4 except for MK. Hard. 100k day all-in between the two parks.
If the above video was displayed for the sole purpose of displaying crowds at DHS before a fireworks show so that someone can say "look at the crowds, this park has no problems!", that would be a bit.... Eh. Let's not go there.
The DHS fireworks show was very good. I wish Mulch, Sweat and Tears were pulled off the stage and a proper band booked for this event though. Take away the dumb hat and this fireworks show feels like something that could have gone down in Mississippi.
* Also forgot to mention that DHS fireworks prep requires large swaths of the park to be closed off, reducing a substantial chunk of the park's in-park cap. I think the trade off is worth it. I like watching fireworks go boom.
bethymouse
Well-Known Member
WOW! Not for the faint of heart!
71jason
Well-Known Member
Wednesday surprises me. Drove up in the evening, no signs of a phased closing, and while it was busy during the fireworks, by 10:00 felt like a normal Summer night again. Anecdotal evidence from one of the monorail bars is that it was a local crowd--"everyone paying separately with a Tables in Wonderland card." I'm wondering if the majority of the turnstyle clicks came late afternoon/early evening and left immediately after fireworks.
Not a shock. Hadn't even heard they were doing fireworks this year, only about the Monsters U event.
Amazing. Even more so when you consider, as far as I know, Universal did nothing out of the ordinary for the Fourth.
Any word on how DTD was, despite not having fireworks for the 6th year in a row, with a dozen signs scattered around announcing that fact?
Pixiedustmaker
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Ah . . . where did you get these numbers from? I also don't see any specific numbers, is this more of a qualitative assessment? Also, 4th of July was like yesterday, how could you research it for two weeks?
Not so sure I understand this . . . DHS was at projection, yet was "tremendously" lower volume than years past . . . aren't the projections based upon past year's attendance patters? If the volume was low, yet Disney *predicted* this, then somehow they were able to forsee the drastically decreased (yet still busy) volume?
Every park is critiqued by fans, there are tons of things that we'd like to add. That DHS (and more importantly WDW) attendance is up is a good thing . . . you don't know what you have until you lose it. Disney will see more guests visiting WDW, and may well expand park capacity in the future.
That's just supply and demand. More demand, then Disney will supply more attractions/lands. There is no evidence yet that DHS has fallen below some basic level of quality in the eyes of the general public, attendance is up. Sure, Backlot could be improved, or taken out to put a Pixar ride in the future . . . but the park sure isn't DCA 1.0 as far as the general public is concerned.
Pixiedustmaker
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I doubt that USF and IOA combined capacity is even close to 100,000. @pheneix seems to desperately want DHS to undergo a massive demolition/construction project . . . and posted a wild rumor about a large number of attractions/restaurants being demolished at tiny DHS to make way for new offerings.
Pixiedustmaker
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There are numbers out there, but how likely is it that somebody would get Uni's/Disney's numbers the day after July 4th? They probably don't even have the numbers collated yet! So, basically, all of these guesstimates, are just that, guesstimates by people who want to see DHS fail so that Disney will tear-down half this park and start anew?
I guess I can leave it at that . . . let's stop reporting stuff like it's "news" and fact, when it is really just somebody's personal opinion. There shouldn't be a "Why DHS is being rebuilt" thread, and there shouldn't be guesstimates posted as though somebody was spying on Disney and Uni so they could get the 4th of July numbers a day later.
I believe Iger said that WDW got record crowds last Easter . . . why would that dynamic change mere months later for the fourth?
englanddg
One Little Spark...
Well, I'm quite sure that Uni and WDW both knew what their general park attendance was the day of, and senior management knew within hours (or less) of closing. It's not like they don't have entrance gates that track entrance/exit metrics and report them electronically.
Are those numbers publicly available that quickly? No, probably not. But that's where your post turns from a general comment to ad-hom.
You claim his information is inaccurate, and he has some agenda. The info may be inaccurate, but more importantly you don't provide any evidence of your own to prove that his claim isn't outside of your own claim. So, why should one support your contention over his?
Sure, you can infer or even outright accuse that he is full of fluffernutter, but outside of that your claim carries no more or less significance than his does.
With respect to your own personal opinion about why a thread should be created, that is just that, your own personal opinion. It has no bearing on your statement in this thread, and is out of place.
Cheers!
I believe he "implied." You then inferred.
You're confusing park capacity ("in-park") with total day counts that tally up over the course of an entire operating day ("all-in" end of day total).
But really, I think you're just confused.
Pixiedustmaker
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100k is a round number, do you have any sources to back this up? Or a more specific number?
WDW hit an overall attendance record this Easter, why the attendance drop-off for the 4th?
Lay off the Adderall. I only feed you troll food from now on.
Pixiedustmaker
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I would think that a lot of the brass is on vacation now given it is the fourth of July weekend . . . unless the grand puba's want to be texted the exact attendance numbers.
There are no specific numbers quotes here. For example:
DHS: At projection, busy, tremendously lower volume than years past. Park attendance did not even reach levels that are sustained during Osbourne Spectacle*
OK . . . but why would Disney project less attendance this year (post a record Easter attendance at WDW), which is "busy" but tremendously lower than volume in the past??? Doesn't make a lot of sense, projections are based on last year's numbers . . .
sweetpee_1993
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Aside from the arguing....
I look at this video and all that comes to mind is: Hell no.
I look at this video and all that comes to mind is: Hell no.
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
No...projections are based upon trends. One day out of last years figures does not make a projection.
Pixiedustmaker
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No doubt special events pack in more guests, DHS got 9.9 million guests last year, attendance is up. DCA went from 6.3 million to 7.8 million with Carsland open half a year, so even with Carsland, DCA might not top DHS. Different market forces/specifics on the coasts . . .