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VIDEO - Inside Princess Fairytale Hall construction (April 2013)
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Maybe now people will see why these do not get put up over the course of a weekend. Ahhh, who am I kidding.
midwest_mice
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It does look like it will be very detailed. However, I still wish they would've built a new building for this and retained a ride building for a dark ride. Disneyland has so many more dark rides and you don't see them getting rid of any of them for a M & G
The demand for them is not as great in DL. Trust me, TDO would rather build a dark ride that can handle 2000-2500 guests per hour with only 3 people on staff at any given time vs a meet n great that handles 1/4 of the guests with a small army of staff.
prfctlyximprct
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Any word on the opening?
Californian Elitist
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Disneyland still managed to build its own version of PFF, without taking away a ride. Makes you think...
That aside, I like the concept art for PFF.
That aside, I like the concept art for PFF.
It does. From what I hear they are two completely different places, each with their own individual, needs, challenges, and clientele. Perish the thought that one might have to do something different than the other.
tissandtully
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SDMT looks like a lot of fun.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
And you know, to some people who have a tie to Disneyland the way that we have one to WDW, taking away a piece of that park's history for the PFF meet and greet might have been more damaging than the removal of a mid-level dark ride:
http://www./wp-content/uploads/2012/04/walt-478x600.jpg
http://www./wp-content/uploads/2012/04/walt-478x600.jpg
Californian Elitist
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No way. If Disney stated they were going to take away one of the Disneyland dark rides, especially Pan, Snow, Alice or Toad, all hell would have broke loose. People would have been ED, there would have been protests and petitions and the story would have made the LA Times. Not the same as taking away CPG, which was dead space. Disney doesn't want a reaction like that.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
Well, technically, there were petitions to save Snow White at WDW:
http://www.change.org/petitions/disney-world-keep-snow-white-s-scary-adventures
and news stories:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...y-s-fantasyland-snow-white-s-scary-adventures
All things considered, the outcry just didn't seem overwhelming. I'll chalk it up to the "local vs. tourist" guest argument and call it a day. And enjoy taking my kids to one single location, highly themed, to get all their princess needs satisfied without having to shell out major coin for Akershus character breakfast.
http://www.change.org/petitions/disney-world-keep-snow-white-s-scary-adventures
and news stories:
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...y-s-fantasyland-snow-white-s-scary-adventures
All things considered, the outcry just didn't seem overwhelming. I'll chalk it up to the "local vs. tourist" guest argument and call it a day. And enjoy taking my kids to one single location, highly themed, to get all their princess needs satisfied without having to shell out major coin for Akershus character breakfast.
Californian Elitist
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Yes, but DL fans are more passionate than WDW fans, and the LA Times is way more famous than the Orlando Sentinel.
Something like this would have been more serious at Disneyland.
Passion has little to do with it. Population is the deciding factor.
I agree with you, it will be fun to see the new meet and greet. I mean its not like it replaced splash mountain or anything, it replaced a ride that was terribly out of date, and not really that good of a ride.
mm52200
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Ummm they didn't need to do this at all...I mean anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Town Square Theatre essentially serving the same purpose that PFTH will serve? All that will happen is that they'll just move the three princesses from TST to PFTH when it opens and shutter the TST princess space, or that's what I'm expecting.
Californian Elitist
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I think passion has a lot to do with it. Sshindel was comparing the loss of CPG to the loss of Snow. There's no comparison. Sure, DL guests created petitions for CPG, but they would have been fired up if Disney announced they were planning on getting rid of Snow for a meet and greet.
Now that I'm re-reading your comment, I think we're talking about two different things. I think you're talking about Disney's decision-making process and I'm talking about which attraction loss would be more devastating and have a greater impact.
Passionate DL fans make up a good bit more of the attendance at DL than passionate fans do at WDW. WDW has no real incentive to cater to their fanatical base that would write letters, sign petitions, etc. If you have 1000 customers and tick off 1 it is no big deal. You do it to 100 and you have a major problem.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
I think I agree with what you are saying. Passionate DL fans make up a higher percentage of the attendance numbers, due to the local/season-pass holding culture that Disneyland has going for it. Since the percentage of passionate fans is higher, it's more likely to cater to that group.
@raven24 -- I have no idea how you'd even start to determine "total number of passionate fans" for each park, so I can't say that DL has more passionate fans than WDW. I know that WDW has plenty of passionate fans (this site alone has over 72,000 current members).
Or, was the statement that DL has fans that are more passionate than WDW fans? Again, I'd probably disagree with that. There are many very passionate fans of both.
It's the percentage that really changes between the two, and why DL caters more to their "local" fanbase.
Californian Elitist
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When I say "more passionate fans", I'm not referring to amount-wise. I mean Disneyland fans are more passionate about the DLR, more so Disneyland, than WDW fans are about WDW. I have many reasons to believe this and make this statement.