Vegas vs. WDW

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
Original Poster
"It's like Disneyland for adults!"

That running joke is fairly old, but from what I've seen that's becoming more and more of a factual description. No longer just a place to chain smoke and gamble, Las Vegas is now a very multifaceted resort-city, offering a wide range of options and activities for visitors and convention goers who want to live a few days in a vacation bubble. Also, unlike the competing casinos of old, The Strip and its attractions are being mostly folded into a pair of corporate owners (MGM and Caesars) with only some 5-star properties (like Wynn) doing things on their own. These companies have learned that following the 2008 recession, visitors are far less interested in gambling than they ever were, and want to know that when they pay for something they WILL get it, not MAYBE. The response has been a push for shows, tours, shopping (now a larger sorce of revenue per square foot than gambling in some spaces) and dining in varying degrees of price points (with up charge options) to attract consumer spending. IMO, while there is no longer a specific aim to bring in more family visitors, parents with children are becoming more open to the idea of coming to Vegas, if for no other reason than the hotels don't openly discourage it (they want rooms filled regardless) and the parents are less concerned about exposing their kids to "Sin City" (which in practice isn't really more "sinful" than most American cities).

So what does that have to do with WDW? Simply directly comparing the two, they have more in common than you would think. They both have: roller coasters & rides, a monorail, themed hotels at different price points, Cirque productions*, higher-end shopping centres, sports arenas, replicas of foreign countries & landmarks (including Paris and Venice), an aquarium, golf courses and Disney stores. Most of those can be found elsewhere in the country, but to have all of them in a large, tourist friendly setting (mostly operated by a few companies) is very specific to the two of them. Consciously or not, they have both seemed to adopt similar policies and practices to maintain their level of success. Vegas in diversifying its offerings, and Disney in looking to charge fees (resort, weekend nights etc) and sell more tours and upcharges for existing ones. True, you cannot find anything like Animal Kingdom Lodge or rides like Haunted Mansion in Vegas, but the quality and variety of things to do and places to eat and shop are superior in general at the latter (again IMO). I know many people also feel Vegas is a dirty, smoky place to be, but my experience has shown the Strip and its hotels to (mostly) be quite clean and no worse than any of the designated smoking areas of WDW. There are dives to be sure, but they're not really worth visiting anyway.

This long preamble on my part is to help explain why, recently, I have been choosing Vegas over WDW of late for vacations. I think it offers a better selection of things to do, and has more options for someone looking to make the most of their vacation dollar. While both are chasing after the big spenders, I find it much easier to get a deals on food and lodging in Vegas and I also find the other tourists less annoying to be around (though obviously, obnoxious people can be found everywhere). Specific to me, I have also found it surprisingly easy to combine Vegas with a visit to DLR, which obviously helps to give me my Disney fix, even though most of the trip is spent in another state.

Has anyone else been to both within the last few years? How do you think they compare, if at all?

*at the time of this post, I'm not sure what's happening next year when La Nouba closes
 

Animaniac93-98

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Original Poster
In terms of pricing, the biggest advantage WDW has over Vegas is park tickets. They're expensive, but they include everything in the park you want to do for the day. Even with things like Tix4Tonight, paying a la carte for a day's worth of Vegas fun can add up very quickly.

Also, WDW is going through a number of resort wide changes and improvements, so these comparisons may all date themselves within the next few years. Though if anyone wants to argue about Star Wars Land vs. how Star Trek:The Experience was like, be my guest. :D
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
Here in Walt Disney World you can meet Mickey & Minnie and get a free picture with them....
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And in Vegas you can see them wallowing in their own vomit and pay $15 for a picture on the Strip....
streets-performers-dressed-as-mickey-mouse-and-minnie-mouse-drinking-alcohol.jpg
 

disney4life2008

Well-Known Member
Idk. Vegas 5 years ago was great, 20 years it truly was a required destination at least once a year.

The issue with Vegas today is everything is expensive. The selling point was always it was cheap but all the great buffets have closed and replaced with expensive nasty restaurants and even worse buffets.

The shows which was great in the past have all been replaced with singers. I don't do concerts.

The casinos well they are the same. But they now charge for parking to visit the casinos.

And the hotels, 7 years ago you could get a room for $60 per night right on the strip. Today, you are lucky if you can get in for $100. And do not get started on the resort fees.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Original Poster
Idk. Vegas 5 years ago was great, 20 years it truly was a required destination at least once a year.

The issue with Vegas today is everything is expensive.

Sounds like another place I've heard of. :cautious:

I'm not saying that to discount your opinon, it's just we hear that a lot of that on this forum. Obviously, everything (WDW or not) is subjective. :)
 

disney4life2008

Well-Known Member
Sounds like another place I've heard of. :cautious:

I'm not saying that to discount your opinon, it's just we hear that a lot of that on this forum. Obviously, everything (WDW or not) is subjective. :)

I agree 100 percent. The difference for me with the 2 is I do not enjoy gambling. After I have lost $50 and spent more than $50 for one meal in vegas (not including entertainment), I am bored. I used to take week long trips to vegas but cut that out in 2009. Disney World and Disneyland on the other hand, expensive or not, I can always find hours of enjoyment at the parks and in the surrounding areas.
 

BroganMc

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Uh no, not even close. I have an aunt who winters in Vegas. She loves the slots and buffets. I've got a timeshare a block away from the Strip. I can take an easy 4.5 hr flight. And yet I cannot bring myself to go back to Vegas. I've gone to all the hotels. I've done the shows. I've been up the Eiffel Tower. Been on the monorail. I've gone to the buffets. And I've walked down the strip where handlers are shoving hooker cards in my face, drunks are stumbling across my path, smokers are polluting my air and odd creepy guys are stalking me. There isn't a single reason I'd ever consider bringing kids to the place.

I honestly don't get the attraction to the place. The hotels are nice but it's really just a showcase for endless gambling. I'm far too smart to gamble my money away. I'd rather invest it in the stock market where I have a chance of making a return.

We joke in our family that when the nieces and nephews reach 21 they should go on one weekend trip to Vegas just to say they've done it. Meanwhile we'll return to WDW multiple times in a year the rest of our lives, God willing. Vegas is a one and done trip.
 

disney4life2008

Well-Known Member
Uh no, not even close. I have an aunt who winters in Vegas. She loves the slots and buffets. I've got a timeshare a block away from the Strip. I can take an easy 4.5 hr flight. And yet I cannot bring myself to go back to Vegas. I've gone to all the hotels. I've done the shows. I've been up the Eiffel Tower. Been on the monorail. I've gone to the buffets. And I've walked down the strip where handlers are shoving hooker cards in my face, drunks are stumbling across my path, smokers are polluting my air and odd creepy guys are stalking me. There isn't a single reason I'd ever consider bringing kids to the place.

I honestly don't get the attraction to the place. The hotels are nice but it's really just a showcase for endless gambling. I'm far too smart to gamble my money away. I'd rather invest it in the stock market where I have a chance of making a return.

We joke in our family that when the nieces and nephews reach 21 they should go on one weekend trip to Vegas just to say they've done it. Meanwhile we'll return to WDW multiple times in a year the rest of our lives, God willing. Vegas is a one and done trip.

Yes! Its interesting because turning 21, the dream was for many kids to go to Vegas. That is still true but not for gambling but the concerts and drunken nights. I have a timeshare at Marriott right on the strip, I can stay for $100 for the week. Not interested lol
 

Travel Junkie

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Vegas is pretty underrated on things to do. People that think it is just gambling eating and drinking have never left the strip. The best of Vegas is off the strip. Downtown Vegas, The Hoover Dam, interesting museums, Vegas Springs preserve, Mt. Charleston, Red Rock Canyon, helicopter ride to the Grand Canyon, etc etc.

I would take Vegas any day of the week over WDW. There is so much more to do. I am really hating the resort fees though. They have skyrocketed recently. The casinos have learned from Disney on how to nickel and dime people to death.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I don't think they compare at all... less you say "lets compare NYC to WDW..." - they are both places people goto for entertainment, but the means, the intent of the trip, the way you consume, etc all are very different. They are comparable only that all vacation destinations are comparable..

Vegas is far more extreme, where Disney aims for a target demographic and sticks to it. Where in Vegas we can go from touring the dam to hookers and blow party in 45mins. The amount of $$ flowing in Vegas means there are lots of extreme or corner case things you can do that couldn't really survive elsewhere.. so that is interesting and fun.

Vegas is fun, but for all different reasons. Disney offering more desert parties and opt-in experiences has no parallels to drawing in Vegas customers.
 

drwadadli

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Vegas is pretty underrated on things to do. People that think it is just gambling eating and drinking have never left the strip. The best of Vegas is off the strip. Downtown Vegas, The Hoover Dam, interesting museums, Vegas Springs preserve, Mt. Charleston, Red Rock Canyon, helicopter ride to the Grand Canyon, etc etc.

I would take Vegas any day of the week over WDW. There is so much more to do. I am really hating the resort fees though. They have skyrocketed recently. The casinos have learned from Disney on how to nickel and dime people to death.
You really think Vegas is underrated??? According to Touropia's February 20. 2017 report, Vegas is 8th on the list of America's top tourist attraction while WDW was listed at 12. In other articles, they broke WDW down into the four individual parks. If you add all the parks together, WDW is first and Vegas is third (Frobes 2010) or WDW is first and Vegas is fifth (Business Insider October 19, 2016) or WDW is sixth and Vegas is tenth (Planetware 2016). I think to say Vegas is UNDERRATED is an over-exaggeration since Vegas draws in an average of 29.5 million visitors a year.

I have been to LV several times and enjoy it greatly. The shows are outstanding, the restaurants are tops, and the casinos are fascinating but if I was taking a family somewhere, I would pick WDW or LV any day. If I was going as just adults, it is a toss up but I would still prefer WDW or LV.
 

Mark Dunne

Well-Known Member
"It's like Disneyland for adults!"

That running joke is fairly old, but from what I've seen that's becoming more and more of a factual description. No longer just a place to chain smoke and gamble, Las Vegas is now a very multifaceted resort-city, offering a wide range of options and activities for visitors and convention goers who want to live a few days in a vacation bubble. Also, unlike the competing casinos of old, The Strip and its attractions are being mostly folded into a pair of corporate owners (MGM and Caesars) with only some 5-star properties (like Wynn) doing things on their own. These companies have learned that following the 2008 recession, visitors are far less interested in gambling than they ever were, and want to know that when they pay for something they WILL get it, not MAYBE. The response has been a push for shows, tours, shopping (now a larger sorce of revenue per square foot than gambling in some spaces) and dining in varying degrees of price points (with up charge options) to attract consumer spending. IMO, while there is no longer a specific aim to bring in more family visitors, parents with children are becoming more open to the idea of coming to Vegas, if for no other reason than the hotels don't openly discourage it (they want rooms filled regardless) and the parents are less concerned about exposing their kids to "Sin City" (which in practice isn't really more "sinful" than most American cities).

So what does that have to do with WDW? Simply directly comparing the two, they have more in common than you would think. They both have: roller coasters & rides, a monorail, themed hotels at different price points, Cirque productions*, higher-end shopping centres, sports arenas, replicas of foreign countries & landmarks (including Paris and Venice), an aquarium, golf courses and Disney stores. Most of those can be found elsewhere in the country, but to have all of them in a large, tourist friendly setting (mostly operated by a few companies) is very specific to the two of them. Consciously or not, they have both seemed to adopt similar policies and practices to maintain their level of success. Vegas in diversifying its offerings, and Disney in looking to charge fees (resort, weekend nights etc) and sell more tours and upcharges for existing ones. True, you cannot find anything like Animal Kingdom Lodge or rides like Haunted Mansion in Vegas, but the quality and variety of things to do and places to eat and shop are superior in general at the latter (again IMO). I know many people also feel Vegas is a dirty, smoky place to be, but my experience has shown the Strip and its hotels to (mostly) be quite clean and no worse than any of the designated smoking areas of WDW. There are dives to be sure, but they're not really worth visiting anyway.

This long preamble on my part is to help explain why, recently, I have been choosing Vegas over WDW of late for vacations. I think it offers a better selection of things to do, and has more options for someone looking to make the most of their vacation dollar. While both are chasing after the big spenders, I find it much easier to get a deals on food and lodging in Vegas and I also find the other tourists less annoying to be around (though obviously, obnoxious people can be found everywhere). Specific to me, I have also found it surprisingly easy to combine Vegas with a visit to DLR, which obviously helps to give me my Disney fix, even though most of the trip is spent in another state.

Has anyone else been to both within the last few years? How do you think they compare, if at all?

*at the time of this post, I'm not sure what's happening next year when La Nouba closes

La nouba closing ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh,I loved that show
 

Mark Dunne

Well-Known Member
Here in Walt Disney World you can meet Mickey & Minnie and get a free picture with them....
65333.jpg

And in Vegas you can see them wallowing in their own vomit and pay $15 for a picture on the Strip....
streets-performers-dressed-as-mickey-mouse-and-minnie-mouse-drinking-alcohol.jpg
Oooooo that's bad,what is it with dodgy costumes,LA has the same I remember when a 5 foot yoda wanted his picture with me.are you friggin kidding me! 5 ft yoda
 

ABQ

Well-Known Member
The Cirque shows in Vegas are pretty amazing, though Le Reve @ The Wynn is even better. I hit both Vegas and WDW each year. They are completely different animals. I probably would not hit Vegas annually if I didn't love so close, but it's hard to pass up. Neither is cheap, though Vegas does try harder to get me there on weeknights especially with far better deals than WDW offers for room and board.
 

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