Upcoming/Rumored Projects

[boufa]

just a few footing pours and those solar panels will be up

Yup, and then people will stop asking about it.... quick poll, how many think might be the parking lot for a 5th gate!?

A look at the clearing from yesterday

 

[Big Mac]

Yup, and then people will stop asking about it.... quick poll, how many think might be the parking lot for a 5th gate!?

No...... its for monorail expansion!

 

[Big Mac]

....I think the 5th gate is for the wetlands lol

 

[boufa]

....I think the 5th gate is for the wetlands lol

I will say however, all (most) joking aside, that the Reedy Creek Master Plan Document, for the period 2010-2020 does actually acknowledge a 5th gate as part of the development strategy for the District. Of course it also has development provisions for a 3rd water park and several new hotels. I'm certain this document is for show, since the entire Reedy Creek government is just for show, but it is interesting that they put it in there... so the odds are not zero... just very, very close to zero.

There were no detail, size, placement, etc, but at this point 5 years into the master plan, I would be curious how much of the items included have been executed.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I will say however, all (most) joking aside, that the Reedy Creek Master Plan Document, for the period 2010-2020 does actually acknowledge a 5th gate as part of the development strategy for the District. Of course it also has development provisions for a 3rd water park and several new hotels. I'm certain this document is for show, since the entire Reedy Creek government is just for show, but it is interesting that they put it in there... so the odds are not zero... just very, very close to zero.

There were no detail, size, placement, etc, but at this point 5 years into the master plan, I would be curious how much of the items included have been executed.

A master plan is about potential maximum uses. They are not reflective of actual plans. Reedy Creek Improvement District's master plan is just as real as any similar government planning document, and just like with real governments can and will be contradicted by the land owners.

 

[boufa]

A master plan is about potential maximum uses. They are not reflective of actual plans. Reedy Creek Improvement District's master plan is just as real as any similar government planning document, and just like with real governments can and will be contradicted by the land owners.

I know it is not reflective of reality, just of potential reality. However, in this case the land owner is the person writing the plan. I'm not suggesting anything, but its interesting, thats all.

 

[lazyboy97o]

I know it is not reflective of reality, just of potential reality. However, in this case the land owner is the person writing the plan. I'm not suggesting anything, but its interesting, thats all.

But it's really not interesting given the purpose of the document and how such documents are used. Reedy Creek Improvement District isn't as intertwined with Walt Disney Parks and Resorts as people like to suggest.

 

[DVCOwner]

But it's really not interesting given the purpose of the document and how such documents are used. Reedy Creek Improvement District isn't as intertwined with Walt Disney Parks and Resorts as people like to suggest.

Every thing I have read in books and news articles all says the opponent. Are not all the board members for Reedy Creek Improvement District the only residents of the District and Disney controls who lives within the District.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Every thing I have read in books and news articles all says the opponent. Are not all the board members for Reedy Creek Improvement District the only residents of the District and Disney controls who lives within the District.

Disney deciding who is there does not mean those people are actively involved in the decision making process regarding content. They don't sit in with Walt Disney Imagineering developing creative ideas. They don't approve creative ideas. They don't decide when to build a hotel or new attraction or new park. Outside of codes, which are taken very seriously, Reedy Creek Improvement District is there so Disney doesn't have to actually ask for zoning and building permission. Your conflating rubber stamping with active decision making simply because it repeatedly get presented as all being Disney.

 

[danlb_2000]

Disney deciding who is there does not mean those people are actively involved in the decision making process regarding content. They don't sit in with Walt Disney Imagineering developing creative ideas. They don't approve creative ideas. They don't decide when to build a hotel or new attraction or new park. Outside of codes, which are taken very seriously, Reedy Creek Improvement District is there so Disney doesn't have to actually ask for zoning and building permission. Your conflating rubber stamping with active decision making simply because it repeatedly get presented as all being Disney.

The master plan also impacts the master water management permit with the South Florida Water Management District which is not an Disney controlled entity.

 

[Brian Swan]

Rivers of Light at least seems to be IP free from what we know. Not the same as a ride, but it's something.

I'm HOPING that all of the projections are of "real" animals (possible drawing from the Disney Earth series of films) and we get a completely original score derived from the music of Africa and Asia, but I strongly expect a lot of Lion King and other IPs to be included. I love Lion King, but my greatest fear is that the show will be "hosted" By Timon and Pumbah...

 

[Brian Swan]

@tirian is right - Animal Kingdom Park has smelled like sewage every time I have been there at night. If Disney doesn't address that issue, the experience won't be all it could be-

I don't really think it would be that hard to reschedule the cleaning to begin at 10PM vice 8PM...

 

[Cesar R M]

I'm HOPING that all of the projections are of "real" animals (possible drawing from the Disney Earth series of films) and we get a completely original score derived from the music of Africa and Asia, but I strongly expect a lot of Lion King and other IPs to be included. I love Lion King, but my greatest fear is that the show will be "hosted" By Timon and Pumbah...

no love for Rafikki? lol

 

[iAJ]

A 5th gate is a terrible idea until both DHS and Epcot are fixed. Obviously DHS is on the right track now, but Epcot has a loooong way to go with no major redevelopment in sight. So a 5th gate should be like 2025 at the very earliest. 2030 is more when I think WDW might be in the right shape for it.

 

[boufa]

A 5th gate is a terrible idea until both DHS and Epcot are fixed. Obviously DHS is on the right track now, but Epcot has a loooong way to go with no major redevelopment in sight. So a 5th gate should be like 2025 at the very earliest. 2030 is more when I think WDW might be in the right shape for it.

Not that I think any of the parks are "broken and need fixed" but if Disney continues on its current path, seemingly started with Calif Adventure of plussing the parks rather than just specific attractions, then I don't even know if they need a 5th gate. 4 new lands at DHS, Avatar, New Fantasyland, another reworked land at MK, Disney Springs, and then some love to Epcot... They certainly would be reinventing their existing parks, rather than spending money on a 5th gate, that would likely be only half developed, and then need its own redo in 10 years.

They get a lot of flack on these boards, but Disney has spent and is committing to spend a lot of money at WDW, and the only ones that seemingly are upset by the lack of activity are the AP holders who say "I was here last week and there is nothing new this week, Disney management sucks" (and the other group "Nothing is open, there are a ton of construction walls, they should build something new"

 

[Prog]

Not that I think any of the parks are "broken and need fixed" but if Disney continues on its current path, seemingly started with Calif Adventure of plussing the parks rather than just specific attractions, then I don't even know if they need a 5th gate. 4 new lands at DHS, Avatar, New Fantasyland, another reworked land at MK, Disney Springs, and then some love to Epcot... They certainly would be reinventing their existing parks, rather than spending money on a 5th gate, that would likely be only half developed, and then need its own redo in 10 years.

They get a lot of flack on these boards, but Disney has spent and is committing to spend a lot of money at WDW, and the only ones that seemingly are upset by the lack of activity are the AP holders who say "I was here last week and there is nothing new this week, Disney management sucks" (and the other group "Nothing is open, there are a ton of construction walls, they should build something new"

Well, fans of Epcot are upset, too, considering that Future World is about to fall into the dystopian cliche and the World Showcase now has Donald, Panchito Pistoles (who, in the cartoons, was a gun-touting, whooping Mexican) and José Carioca (the Brazillian in the Mexico Pavillion), in addition to Elsa, Anna, and some snowman that just tells obvious jokes.

 

[UpAllNight]

Not that I think any of the parks are "broken and need fixed" but if Disney continues on its current path, seemingly started with Calif Adventure of plussing the parks rather than just specific attractions, then I don't even know if they need a 5th gate. 4 new lands at DHS, Avatar, New Fantasyland, another reworked land at MK, Disney Springs, and then some love to Epcot... They certainly would be reinventing their existing parks, rather than spending money on a 5th gate, that would likely be only half developed, and then need its own redo in 10 years.

They get a lot of flack on these boards, but Disney has spent and is committing to spend a lot of money at WDW, and the only ones that seemingly are upset by the lack of activity are the AP holders who say "I was here last week and there is nothing new this week, Disney management sucks" (and the other group "Nothing is open, there are a ton of construction walls, they should build something new"

To be fair I last visited 13 years ago and was upset at how little it had changed this summer.

Luckily things are improving, but I'd argue they're still playing catch up due to their lack of investment. Epcot needs big big work done. Animal Kingdom still needs more. Phase 4 is still years and years away for DHS and there's no guarantee it'll even happen. Many disagree, but Magic Kingdom needs more rides, and Tomorrowland is dated, and Adventureland lacks, well, adventure. The waterparks haven't seen a significant addition in years and could potentially become 2nd rate if Universal knock Volcano Bay out the park.

I still love the place though, but let's not excuse Disney for one moment over the current state of affairs. Complacency just gives them an excuse for further neglect down the line.

 

[iAJ]

Not that I think any of the parks are "broken and need fixed" but if Disney continues on its current path, seemingly started with Calif Adventure of plussing the parks rather than just specific attractions, then I don't even know if they need a 5th gate. 4 new lands at DHS, Avatar, New Fantasyland, another reworked land at MK, Disney Springs, and then some love to Epcot... They certainly would be reinventing their existing parks, rather than spending money on a 5th gate, that would likely be only half developed, and then need its own redo in 10 years.

They get a lot of flack on these boards, but Disney has spent and is committing to spend a lot of money at WDW, and the only ones that seemingly are upset by the lack of activity are the AP holders who say "I was here last week and there is nothing new this week, Disney management sucks" (and the other group "Nothing is open, there are a ton of construction walls, they should build something new"

But you are acting like all this money going into WDW has been a regular thing for years. That's far from the case, and it is only in these last few years they've finally committed to spending substantially on the parks again. I for one am ecstatic there is finally so much they're planning to invest in the resort over the next half decade, but let's not act like this was a regular thing or that it isn't LONG overdue.Thank god Universal gave them a shot to the arm to kickstart all this.

 

[cjack300zx]

But you are acting like all this money going into WDW has been a regular thing for years. That's far from the case, and it is only in these last few years they've finally committed to spending substantially on the parks again. I for one am ecstatic there is finally so much they're planning to invest in the resort over the next half decade, but let's not act like this was a regular thing or that it isn't LONG overdue.Thank god Universal gave them a shot to the arm to kickstart all this.

^ This! Competition between the two parks is a great thing for the consumer.

 

[Unplugged]

...and some snowman that just tells obvious jokes.

LOL. No doubt. Fozzy Bear is a better comedian than that ice ball!