Unprofessional bus driver

tomm4004

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Perhaps I'm overreacting. Rode the Swan, Dolphin/Boardwalk bus back from MK at 11:30pm during Extra Magic hours on April 20th. Waited 15 minutes in long line and stood for the trip. The driver asked if anyone had any questions. A man yelled out, "Why aren't there more buses?" The driver replied, "There are enough buses. The question is, why aren't there enough drivers?"

The driver then proceeded to tell us that they were on two consecutive 12-hour shifts (3pm-3am) and that they were counting on us to talk and ask questions to help them get through it. The implication was that they needed us to help them stay awake. At least that's how I saw it. It was a little disconcerting thinking our driver was not fully alert with a bus crammed with people. I thought this was unprofessional, not to mention the simple fact of talking about their work conditions. As a guest, I don't want to know. You stick a microphone in their hands and they feel they have to right to talk about anything. Cast members should not volunteer their working woes to guests.

They then proceeded to tell us about their first visit to WDW in 1971 and how cheap it was compared to today. Then they pointed out how ugly the Dolphin Hotel was, but added that it wasn't owned by Disney and thus nobody at Disney had any say in the design (which isn't true. Eisner hired the architect and approved the design). Of course, some people on the bus were staying at the Dolphin, so the driver was insulting their choice of accomodations.

I certainly don't want my airline pilot coming on the intercom and asking us to sing to keep them awake. I don't even want the CM loading me onto Splash Mountain to tell me how long their shift is. The bus driver did say they were going on vacation soon. I hope it's a long one.

With regards to bus service in general, it's possible the driver was right but I think dispatch mix-ups are the problem. We only took a few trips but they were mostly unsatisfactory. We stay mostly at MK or EPCOT resorts to avoid buses but we did have two nights at AKL and so were not immune.

On April 13th, we made two trips to AK from AKL. Waiting times at the lodge were nine and four minutes. However, coming back our wait times were 24 minutes (at 1:30) and 31 minutes (at 5:30). That's a long time for a four minute ride. I could walk faster. They advertise 15 minutes wait times.

The next morning was worse. At 8:30am, we waited 35 minutes for the EPCOT bus. Multiple buses came for the other destinations. Only after a lady called the front desk did a bus arrive three-minutes later. Coincedence?

Well, on April 20th we went from Boardwalk to DD/TL. We waited 25 minutes, but people had already been there 20 minutes - making for a 45 minute wait. At one point, two AK buses showed up simultaneously. They were both empty because another AK bus had been there minutes before. Again, a guest called the front desk and a DD/TL bus came a few minutes later. Not everyone was able to get on (it was a hot day and lots of people were heading to TL), but the driver called for another bus.

I can only think that in the EPCOT and DD/TL cases the problems were caused by dispatch errors and not a lack of drivers. Why did they have three AK buses within a matter of minutes, whereas the other day we couldn't get a bus back from AK to AKL?

In the future, we will cut our reliance on the buses even further, and we certainly will not be riding them late at night!
 

Pumbas Nakasak

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Well it is disappointing to hear of your woes.

A couple of points though, its human nature to complain Disney is not immune to this, especially if there is an underlying issue that amplifies the problems. It may be an attempt tp diffuse his personal involvement, sort of dont blame me blame the management.<O:p

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He may have had a good sense of humour and was winding passengers up about being kept awake.<O:p

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As for bus timing issue why are you ready to believe that there was dispatch errors not driver issues, could it not be that the regular driver had failed to turn up and drivers Disney uses to send to hot spots at peak times were drafted in instead thus two services are effected??<O:p

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As for the three minute bus arrival, coincidence would be my theory unless Disney have introduced a teleport or super charge engine to the buses.<O:p></O:p>
 
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tomm4004

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Pumbas Nakasak said:
As for bus timing issue why are you ready to believe that there was dispatch errors not driver issues, could it not be that the regular driver had failed to turn up and drivers Disney uses to send to hot spots at peak times were drafted in instead thus two services are effected??
Perhaps, but that doesn't explain why we had two AK buses right together, or why there was no EPCOT bus but multiple buses for all other destinations.

As for the coincidence, I assumed that they may have told the next bus driver arriving at that resort to switch to the needed bus as they approached.

I'm not sure how buses work, but I got the impression that they didn't just run on regular routes. If so, it would only take ten minutes round trip for the AK/AKL run. I thought there was a new on demand system.
 
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The_CEO

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Try staying at an Allstar Resort and getting from the MK to your hotel at park closing.. That's a wait. This is typical disney, can't really avoid it unless you provide your own transportation. I'm sorry the standards you set for Disney weren't met on your trips..
 
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Laura

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I don't know if the unprofessional driver you're talking about would have bothered me. I actually prefer to talk to people like that who will give you their honest opinions and tell it like it is instead of sugar coating everything. I can understand how the things he said were unprofessional, but it just wouldn't have bothered me personally.

As for the wait times - I'm impatient, I hate waiting for busses. I hate using busses. It just wastes SO much time. This is why we always end up driving instead of flying. So much easier to have your own car! This winter I'll be flying down with my kids because my husband has to work and there's no way I can drive 10 hours by myself with them, so I will be relying on Disney busses to get me around. Not really looking forward to that!
 
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mkt

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I gotta agree... I prefer pleasant honesty that some CM's give over the snotty sugar coating that others give.

That being said, aside from Tyler (Invero), I'm terrified of all WDW bus driver... and somehow I don't doubt that they're terrified of me :D
 
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erasure fan1

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I agree with laura22 I dont think it would bother me. I would rather have some one tell me how it is and not suger coat things. Calling the hotel ugly, that might be a little much, but its all your own opinion. The bus times always seem to be more than what they say. We stay at old key west and going is not to much of a problem, but going back it always seems to be a 20 to 30 min. wait. I think Disneys transportation system all in all for how big Disney is, works very well.
 
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PanDuckPA

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Try riding public transportation in Philly

I understand you, feel frustrated but try riding the SEPTA system in Philadelphia, my BH (better half) she has a five minute bus ride, on a bus which runs on a ten minute schedule and sometimes she waits 20 min. +,and the bus drivers don't even give you a smile or a word of acknowledgement after her hard day of work, yes and she pays the highest rates in the country and sometimes stands on the bus and is even mowed down by other riders, so they can get a seat, and it smells worse then a public restroom :hurl: , so before you complain about the Disney Bus Service, think about the worse case scenario it could be the SEPTA System you are riding.



6 months and 5 days until I return home :sohappy: :sohappy: :)
 
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crazydaveh

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Maybe the driver was having a bad day/night. CM's are people... we all have our moments!

I have been lucky with the busses! Some of the best times at WDW have been on the busses coming home from PI... Yes, just about everyone on the bus has been drinking, so the drivers always play with people on the bus and crack jokes. Of course, it's always rated "D" for Disney.

As for the waits, it's a part of the experience. Yes it stinks to see so many busses going by for other destinations, but it could be worse!

Remember, you can walk!
 
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tomm4004

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crazydaveh said:
Remember, you can walk!
I wish there was a walkway from AK to AKL. I would gladly take it even if it is a mile. And I don't believe there's a way to walk from the Boardwalk to Typhoon Lagoon. We always walk to/from MGM from the Boardwalk.
 
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AliciaLuvzDizne

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crazydaveh said:
Maybe the driver was having a bad day/night. CM's are people... we all have our moments!

I have been lucky with the busses! Some of the best times at WDW have been on the busses coming home from PI... Yes, just about everyone on the bus has been drinking, so the drivers always play with people on the bus and crack jokes. Of course, it's always rated "D" for Disney.

As for the waits, it's a part of the experience. Yes it stinks to see so many busses going by for other destinations, but it could be worse!

Remember, you can walk!
on the flipside...
dont you think its irrisponsible to have someone drive a vehicle full of people for a 12 hour shift period?

even truckers are required by law to rest after a certain number of hours on the road...
 
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crazydaveh

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AliciaLuvzDizne said:
on the flipside...
dont you think its irrisponsible to have someone drive a vehicle full of people for a 12 hour shift period?

even truckers are required by law to rest after a certain number of hours on the road...

Yes, very much indeed! That's a long time to be driving for anyone!

My question is, between the hours of 3 AM and lets say 7 AM, what do the drivers do? I know they inspect the vehicles for safety, fill up with gas, clean the busses... But as far as I've seen, you can't really go anywhere between that time!

I've sat at a stop at the C Springs from about 2:30 AM until 4 AM before (bad night for someone in our group) and the busses stopped rolling through! So what are the drivers doing during this time?
 
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tinkish

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I'm sorry about your experience with the bus system. And I wouldn't like having the CM complain about thier working conditions either...in fact, I'm sure that's something the company would not encourage.
 
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Scooter

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If I get to my destination safely and in a timely fashion, then I don't care how many hours a bus driver works. That's between him and the company.

If there's an accident and myself or members of my family are injured, THEN how many hours the driver has worked becomes an issue.

As far as what the driver says, I feel good when a driver talks to me like a real person, straight up and honestly. A lot of big city bus drivers ignore their passengers and act like they're a bother. It's fun to talk to the bus drivers at WDW.

Besides...if I drove a bus for 12 hours straight without talking to anyone i'd go insane. :lookaroun :hammer: :lol:
 
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TURKEY

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You aren't going to be on a bus for an entire 12 hour shift. Maybe Tyler can give some more info.

As far as getting from AK to AKL:

Trip 1 there aren't as many buses running at 1:30. 25 minutes isn't that terrible. Probally only 1 bus running. At 5:30, that's near park closing, after the parade, during a mass exit. You'll have a little longer wait time then.


DTD buses are the longest trips and least frequent trips. I always say 15-25 minutes on park buses, 25-30 minutes for downtown buses.
 
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Invero

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AliciaLuvzDizne said:
on the flipside...
dont you think its irrisponsible to have someone drive a vehicle full of people for a 12 hour shift period?

even truckers are required by law to rest after a certain number of hours on the road...
Drivers are never on a bus longer than 3.5hrs. On a 12hr shift, bus drivers will get a 45 minute lunch, and two 30 minute breaks. Add to that at least 30-75 minutes at the beginning and ending of each shift (travel and wait time), plus 15-45 minutes per break (wait time).
 
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Invero

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crazydaveh said:
Yes, very much indeed! That's a long time to be driving for anyone!

My question is, between the hours of 3 AM and lets say 7 AM, what do the drivers do? I know they inspect the vehicles for safety, fill up with gas, clean the busses... But as far as I've seen, you can't really go anywhere between that time!

I've sat at a stop at the C Springs from about 2:30 AM until 4 AM before (bad night for someone in our group) and the busses stopped rolling through! So what are the drivers doing during this time?
On a typical night, the DTD buses are the last to shut down, usually around 3am. Last run out of PI is around 2am, but then the drivers need to drop off the guests, and park the bus. On occassion, the MK is open till 3am, which means drivers are needed until 5am.

Once the buses are parked, washcrew clean and maintain the buses.

First buses (employee shuttles) go up around 330 and 530am, and first guest buses go up at 6:30am.
 
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tomm4004

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TURKEY said:
As far as getting from AK to AKL:

Trip 1 there aren't as many buses running at 1:30. 25 minutes isn't that terrible. Probally only 1 bus running.
It's only a four-minute trip. If one bus is running it should only take about ten minutes round trip. They advertise 15 tops. Again, I don't think these buses go just back and forth between points because buses often drop you off in corals other than that which you arrrived from.

TURKEY said:
At 5:30, that's near park closing, after the parade, during a mass exit. You'll have a little longer wait time then.
The park closed at 5pm and had cleared out pretty well by then. The parade had been at 4pm, 90 minutes earlier. Again, they say 15 minutes and are supposed to have more buses around closing time - and the AKL is the closest resort to that park. Obviously, there was no bus assigned to go between AK and AKL unless it broke down or was diverted.

TURKEY said:
DTD buses are the longest trips and least frequent trips. I always say 15-25 minutes on park buses, 25-30 minutes for downtown buses.
Funny, the morning at the AKL that we waited 35 minutes for an EPCOT bus, three DD buses came in that period. The time at the Boardwalk that we waited 25 minutes for the DD bus (people had already been there for 20), three AK buses went by.

I believe these were dispatch screw-ups or some sort. The fact that it happened on over half our bus rides makes me wonder just how often is happens. Bus service never used to be this poor.
 
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Dwarful

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We arrive in 11 days and will be using the bus service as our primary form of transportation...as usual! We are used to public transportation, so we really appreciate being on vacation and not having to drive and yet being able to ride in clean buses that run in a timely manner. I do hope that your next experience is a better one and that you won't let this one bad experience keep you from taking advantage of the bus system.
 
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