Universal's "Dark Universe" - Impact on Parks?

raven

raven

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Best friend has been touting this movie for a long time and telling everyone to go see it (he's seen it twice and even went to Hollywood for an early event where the Stars showed up). But it's been given terrible reviews and I won't see it simply because I can't stand Tom Cruise. That being said, my friend is now blaming the media and Cruise haters for the movie's demise. :rolleyes:
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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BuddyThomas said:
Well, now that this is one of the biggest flops in recent motion picture history, I guess we can stop worrying about replacement/adjustment of current Mummy ride?
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The movie made $173 million in its worldwide opening weekend, on a $125 million budget. We may still get more in the series due to the success in Korea, China and other markets.

#ThanksShanghai
 
misterID

misterID

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raven said:
Best friend has been touting this movie for a long time and telling everyone to go see it (he's seen it twice and even went to Hollywood for an early event where the Stars showed up). But it's been given terrible reviews and I won't see it simply because I can't stand Tom Cruise. That being said, my friend is now blaming the media and Cruise haters for the movie's demise. :rolleyes:
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The film has gotten much better scores from ticket buyers leaving the theater after seeing the movie than critics reviewing the film. The score differences are pretty shocking, actually. I will say, the articles against the mummy and Cruise have been really venomous... Like, trying to end his career. I've never seen anything like it before.
 
lebeau

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misterID said:
The film has gotten much better scores from ticket buyers leaving the theater after seeing the movie than critics reviewing the film. The score differences are pretty shocking, actually. I will say, the articles against the mummy and Cruise have been really venomous... Like, trying to end his career. I've never seen anything like it before.
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From Deadline's BO report:

The Mummy is detested by both critics (at 18% Rotten) and audiences alike, with a B- CinemaScore and 70% total positive score from Screen Engine/ComScore’s PostTrak. This isn’t a scenario where a popcorn pic was beloved by audiences and critics killed its chances at the domestic box office. That latter number is even lower than the 76% earned by Paramount’s Baywatch.
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misterID

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lebeau said:
From Deadline's BO report:
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The audience reviews were better, period. Don't get a critic started on "audience opinions." I even noticed how Variety, The Hollywood Reporter and Vanity Fair have been butchering him lately, coincidentally at the lead up of the movie and now they're like vultures. Seriously, look up Tom Cruise on your news feed. They're really piling on him that his career is over and he just had a big hit with his last film. And yeah, I know critics, they do try to torpedo films and actors they don't like. There's even a pretty big critic who lurks on this site (hey!). They're all like members on a Disney/Uni forum.
 
lebeau

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misterID said:
The audience reviews were better, period. Don't get a critic started on "audience opinions." I even noticed how Variety, The Hollywood Reporter and Vanity Fair have been butchering him lately, coincidentally at the lead up of the movie and now they're like vultures. Seriously, look up Tom Cruise on your news feed. They're really piling on him that his career is over and he just had a big hit with his last film. And yeah, I know critics, they do try to torpedo films and actors they don't like. There's even a pretty big critic who lurks on this site (hey!). They're all like members on a Disney/Uni forum.
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A movie that receives a B- CinemaScore is in no way liked by audiences. Baywatch got a B+. So did King Arthur. The Smurfs got an A. These scores skew positive. B- is a very low CinemaScore.
 
misterID

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lebeau said:
A movie that receives a B- CinemaScore is in no way liked by audiences. Baywatch got a B+. So did King Arthur. The Smurfs got an A. These scores skew positive. B- is a very low CinemaScore.
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Okay? Again, it is getting better ratings from viewers than critics. Even the Rotten Tomatoes site reviewers noticed the difference between their views and the critics. I was responding to a post where the poster said their friend liked the movie and thought it was being bashed by critics that were Tom Cruise haters, which is funny. But I was having a convo with a critic where I mentioned the viciousness of articles and reviews targeting Cruise.

I have not seen it, I do not have a dog in this fight, but it is scoring higher with audiences than critics. I might even hate it myself. Who knows. But it's doing really well overseas.
 
raven

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And my friend is buying a $30 IMAX ticket in LA to see it tomorrow night for the 3rd time. And says when he goes to see Cars 3 and other movies this summer, he will buy a ticket for Mummy then duck into the other theater just so the Mummy will make more money. That is a bit obsessive, even for a fan of the movie.
 
Dead2009

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misterID said:
Okay? Again, it is getting better ratings from viewers than critics. Even the Rotten Tomatoes site reviewers noticed the difference between their views and the critics. I was responding to a post where the poster said their friend liked the movie and thought it was being bashed by critics that were Tom Cruise haters, which is funny. But I was having a convo with a critic where I mentioned the viciousness of articles and reviews targeting Cruise.

I have not seen it, I do not have a dog in this fight, but it is scoring higher with audiences than critics. I might even hate it myself. Who knows. But it's doing really well overseas.
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The film has a 44% on Rotten Tomatoes and a 5.9 on IMDB. Those arent the best scores, really.
 
lebeau

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misterID said:
Okay? Again, it is getting better ratings from viewers than critics. Even the Rotten Tomatoes site reviewers noticed the difference between their views and the critics. I was responding to a post where the poster said their friend liked the movie and thought it was being bashed by critics that were Tom Cruise haters, which is funny. But I was having a convo with a critic where I mentioned the viciousness of articles and reviews targeting Cruise.

I have not seen it, I do not have a dog in this fight, but it is scoring higher with audiences than critics. I might even hate it myself. Who knows. But it's doing really well overseas.
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It's pretty common for critics to be more critical than the average moviegoing public. The Mummy currently has a 16% approval rating on RT.com which is very low. The audience approval score is at 44% which is higher, but so what? It's still awful. Compare this to Baywatch which has a 19% approval rating from critics and 63% from audiences. Or Pirates which got a 29% from critics and 68% from audiences. For the audience score to be higher on a would-be blockbuster is in no way unusual. These kinds of movies almost always get better ratings from audiences than critics.

As for Cruise, he's got some years left in him. But like all movie stars, he's fading. In the 90's, if Tom Cruise had starred in a big budget popcorn movie like this, it would have crushed at the box office. In fairness, there isn't an actor working today with the box office draw Cruise had in the 80's and 90's. The Mission: Impossible franchise and international box office will keep Cruise afloat for a while to come. I have seen some writers who seemed to take some pleasure in Cruise's latest misstep (they did the same thing when Knight & Day disappointed in 2010) but I haven't seen anything I would describe as "viscous".

As for The Mummy, I haven't seen it. Based on everything I have seen, I have no desire to. But I don't have a dog in this fight either. I'm just looking at the numbers as objectively as one possibly can. They suggest that overall, critics and audiences strongly disliked the movie.
 
misterID

misterID

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lebeau said:
It's pretty common for critics to be more critical than the average moviegoing public. The Mummy currently has a 16% approval rating on RT.com which is very low. The audience approval score is at 44% which is higher, but so what? It's still awful. Compare this to Baywatch which has a 19% approval rating from critics and 63% from audiences. Or Pirates which got a 29% from critics and 68% from audiences. For the audience score to be higher on a would-be blockbuster is in no way unusual. These kinds of movies almost always get better ratings from audiences than critics.

As for Cruise, he's got some years left in him. But like all movie stars, he's fading. In the 90's, if Tom Cruise had starred in a big budget popcorn movie like this, it would have crushed at the box office. In fairness, there isn't an actor working today with the box office draw Cruise had in the 80's and 90's. The Mission: Impossible franchise and international box office will keep Cruise afloat for a while to come. I have seen some writers who seemed to take some pleasure in Cruise's latest misstep (they did the same thing when Knight & Day disappointed in 2010) but I haven't seen anything I would describe as "viscous".

As for The Mummy, I haven't seen it. Based on everything I have seen, I have no desire to. But I don't have a dog in this fight either. I'm just looking at the numbers as objectively as one possibly can. They suggest that overall, critics and audiences strongly disliked the movie.
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I'm not just talking about those scores, I'm talking about audience feedback the studio pays for. I noticed the targeting before the film came out, even talked about it with a few critics and it wasn't denied. When they start talking about being old and needing to walk away like at THR, that's vicious, ageist and going a little too far. They've done it before to other actors, but this was a pretty big hatchet job aimed at his career. It seems there were more people cheering this than usual.
 

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