Universal Stay with a few Disney Days (trip observations and thoughts)

UNCgolf

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I never seem to have a problem finding good food at Universal. Palm and BiCE are fantastic. Mama Della's is quite enjoyable. Vivo, Antojito's, Toothsome's, Bigfire, and Cowfish are solid. In the parks, Mythos and Finnegan's are my go toos. As far as Counter Service, Thunder Falls, Three Broomsticks, and Leaky Cauldron are not bad, and Fire Eaters Grill is surprisingly good. Louie's Pizza is way better than the pizza at WDW, Via Napoli excepted. But the better pizza at Universal is either at Red Oven or Sal's. I do miss Tchop Chop though.

I wasn't counting any of the resort restaurants because all I've had is breakfast at the main restaurant at the Royal Pacific. I have heard that the HP quick service restaurants are better than what's available in the rest of the park, which wouldn't be too hard to do based on how bad the rest of the QS food we had was.

We also ate at the Confisco Grille and that was one of the worst dining experiences I've ever had. Not just the food, which wasn't good, but the service/cleanliness. The place was empty and yet we were in there forever. No one came to the table for 10-15 minutes after we were seated, then it was another 10 minutes before we were actually able to place an order, and then the food took forever even though it was just two sandwiches. The sandwich that was supposed to come from an oven was barely warm, and after we finished eating we waited another 15-20 minutes for someone to show up and let us actually pay so we could leave. We should have been in and out of there in about a third of the time we actually spent.

The food at Tony's Town Square was probably even worse last time I was there, but the service was at least pretty good so we didn't waste a ton of time sitting around doing nothing.
 

NickMaio

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I’m currently sitting in MCO waiting on my flight back home to NYC and wanted to share my thoughts regarding this trip while still fresh in my mind. Hopefully it can serve as a perspective for those out there debating on trip options.

Background:
This was our first trip back to Disney in just over 3 years. The major difference this time around was we decided for the first time ever to not stay on Disney property. This was primarily based on the fact that several pre-pandemic experiences were either not available or have changed. Instead we decided to stay on Universal Property and scheduled two day trips to Disney Parks. Quite frankly, we were suppose to go to Disney this past December for a week and obviously canceled. The driving force behind this last minute trip was my wife and I really wanted to get our 5 year old over there to experience the rides (and whatever experiences may be available) before he outgrows this phase of his imagination. For his personality, We felt he was at prime age to allow his imagination soar at the theme parks.

Previously we’ve always stayed at Deluxe resorts and always signed up for the deluxe dining plan. We enjoy the signature restaurants and for our purposes find that the deluxe dining plan suites our preferences well (we are not over eaters and yes the quantity can be daunting) as we like to have dinner every evening at a signature restaurant (I guess that comes from our habits of eating out in NYC).

With that being said, we flew down this past Monday and spent 5 nights at the Portofino Bay Resort. We didn’t know what to expect in regards to crowds (normally we’d always avoid Disney during any major holiday or school break) but my wife and I both got fully vaccinated, the snow just didn’t want to end in NYC and we were all desperate for a vacation that didn’t involve leaving the US mainland (just in case any Covid related reasons caused any possible havoc on international air travel that could block our way back h

Here we go (and in no specific order)...

1) Both Disney and Universal are putting in the right effort in terms of health related precautions. Temperature checks at both resorts were efficient and not viewed as a hinderance. Mask wearing was enforced by both resorts equally but of course there were a fair share of guests at both resorts that tried to circumvent the rules, some innocently unknowing and others certainly just not giving a flying you know what but they were very few and far between. the weather cooperated for the most part and made the mask wearing tolerable. I however would want no part of wearing the mask during the Florida summer (and I am a healthcare practiitoner who wears one every day and is quite used to it).

Where Universal stands out above Disney is in my opinion the fact that before any guests gets on any attraction they must have hand disinfectant placed onto their hands and wiped down. That makes sense from every which way possible and is a true deterrent to spreading any type of infectious disease. I was shocked that Disney did not utilize this practice.


As sound as Disney’s overall protocols were, However, I do feel that a portion of their practices didn’t make much sense and gave me the sense that it was for window dressing and resulted in what is in my opinion more of a nuisance than anything else. For example, while on line for flight of passage, there was a segment of the line that zigzagged through the festival of the lion king enclosure. We probably spent as much time inside that enclosure with what I estimated was about another 100 or so moving mass of people that it would take to watch the entire festival of the lion king show. Very similar set up for Pirates. If Disney is going to set up lines in this manner (and yes there were social distancing markers) why can’t they just bring back the shows? I personally didn’t see how it made sense or coincided with their decisions to continue to not bring back shows/entertainment. If I’m going to spend 15 minutes or so in an enclosed space with several other people I see no reason why shows aren’t brought back. We experienced the Bourne Stunt show at Universal with every other row utilized and 2 empty seats separating each party and felt it was safe and adequate.

2) Social distancing is hit or miss at both parks. Some people adhere to it more than others and there is no way you can control your neighbors actions without constant reminders if you chose to do so. At the end of the day I noticed that social distancing becomes less compliant as people burn out from the efforts of running around the park, me included. I caught myself on several occasions on line zoning out and just walking past the marker to only correct myself (or have my 7 year old correct me) several times. While there are markers everywhere at both parks guests must have a realistic expectation that the parks aren’t under surveillance like an elementary school class would be and distancing can be quite dynamic but still overall compliant.

3) Florida weather and rain is another factor that should be taken into account. The skys opened on us yesterday in Universal and as a result EVERYONE rushed under the canopy of a nearby restaurant (I believe maybe 3 broomsticks, not sure) and it evolved into a mosh pit of human flesh and the total opposite of social distancing. This is something to keep in mind for those who are especially uneasy to close physical space during these times. Consider the unpredictability of Florida weather and the resulting unpredictability of the human response around you.

4) Park reservations are great for corporate Disney and how they run their business but IMO adds another Avenue of stress in planning your family’s “perfect” Disney vacation. We really wanted to make sure we score boarding passes for Rise of the resistance. But what if we didn’t? Would our 2nd best park option be available? What if the weather changes the day you wanted to go to a certain park and you want to cancel theme parks that day for another day? Risk losing out on possibly not getting into that park later in your trip?

I can see park reservations being great for
Locals. But for those who vacation at Disney infrequently I personally think it’s just another obstacle to plan and stress over as it can remove a great deal of flexibility in your trip. Universal on the other hand, wake up and go where you want based on your plans or whatever you feel like doing that morning. We were
Much less stressed at Universal.


4) we had express passed for Universal which were a God Send. As we all know fastpass wasn’t an option at Disney. Now I can’t accurately comment about the crowd levels at Disney this past week although I’m fairly confident to assume they were on the higher than normal side. With the lack of entertainment and crowd diversions like stage shows and character interactions literally every guest in the park was focused on rides. The lines were considerably longer in Disney as compared to Universal. For those considering going to Disney during periods of school closures please plan accordingly and anticipate long waits with no real way to circumvent them (with the exception of rope drop but that assumes you’re staying on site). As stated Universal IMO for the time being beat out Disney as they are still implementing express pass there and allowed for us to experience everything multiple times at a leisurely pace.

5) Food options are somewhat limited at Disney these days but overall food quality is superior to Universal. I felt Disney still provides a more dynamic array of options than the typical theme park variety. Universal needs to step its game up there.

the virtual ordering at Disney is also a major plus as it keeps you off another line to wait on. It’s actually quite convenient and efficient. However for those who like to spend cash at the park, be warned that you cannot utilize cash at any of the options utilizing the virtual ordering as once you order you must pay with a credit card for the order to process. For some this can be an annoyance who rely on cash.

6) We saw and interacted with much more characters in Universal than Disney. Both parks enforce social distancing with their characters but Universal still has them set up in a stationary manner so you can take pictures with them, albeit 6 feet behind you. Disney has spontaneous unannounced character calvacades which won’t allow you to take any pictures with the characters. Either situation is not ideal but at least with Universal you can take a photo with characters. Universal is also much more lax with dropping your mask to take a photo (Not an option at all at Disney)

7) Disney property is still superior to Universal, it just feels more quaint and homey. I hate to say this but while Universal was nice it felt more “artificial”
And cold. We certainly missed staying and experiencing the Disney bubble but we just couldn’t justify paying for a Disney resort with all the current limitations in place. Both resorts (we had dinner at Narcoossee at the Grand Floridian one night) immaculately clean and well kept with cast members constantly wiping thinhs

Overall we had a great trip and were able to accomplish all our goals (with a lot of planning). We felt safe, the parks were both clean and at the end of the day we were on vacation and enjoying our time
Together as a family.

i would strongly caution those families who are planning a once in a lifetime trip or once in a decade trip to think twice about going to Disney in 2021 however. The essence of what makes Disney special is still
Missing. While there are character calvacades they don’t compare to seeing your little one hug and high five their favorite character. Pictures and keepsakes aren’t the same. The fireworks and shows that distinguish Disney from your average theme park are still missing as well as a good amount of dining. I would strongly recommend this group of vacationers to delay their visit until pre-covid offerings are reintroduced otherwise you will get a water downed experience. For those have been there numerous times, this is a great time to go especially if you can go while schools are in session and crowds are limited. I personally will not be returning until we feel
Comfortable staying on property again which will be strictly dictated by the return of pre-pandemic offerings and protocols.

All of the above are just
My personal opinions and not the opinions of anyone else and should not be viewed as such nor as fact. At the end of the day every family should decide what’s best for theirs and hopefully some of my observations in this thread will help. Regardless Disney is still Disney and it’s still a magical destination. All the best and happy to answer any questions
Thanks for sharing.....we are missing our WDW.
 

Disneyhead'71

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I wasn't counting any of the resort restaurants because all I've had is breakfast at the main restaurant at the Royal Pacific. I have heard that the HP quick service restaurants are better than what's available in the rest of the park, which wouldn't be too hard to do based on how bad the rest of the QS food we had was.

We also ate at the Confisco Grille and that was one of the worst dining experiences I've ever had. Not just the food, which wasn't good, but the service/cleanliness. The place was empty and yet we were in there forever. No one came to the table for 10-15 minutes after we were seated, then it was another 10 minutes before we were actually able to place an order, and then the food took forever even though it was just two sandwiches. The sandwich that was supposed to come from an oven was barely warm, and after we finished eating we waited another 15-20 minutes for someone to show up and let us actually pay so we could leave. We should have been in and out of there in about a third of the time we actually spent.

The food at Tony's Town Square was probably even worse last time I was there, but the service was at least pretty good so we didn't waste a ton of time sitting around doing nothing.
Sad to hear that about Confisco's. I used to go there several years ago and it was a solid affordable table service restaurant. But they changed the menu and removed my favorite item so it sort of fell off my radar. I have thought for a while that they would be better served to turn that location into a counter service noodle shop. And turn Thunder Falls Terrace into a TS called Hammond's (I'll have the Chilean Sea Bass).

I do avoid most of the counter service in the parks although, Monsters Cafe recently got a menu upgrade to include some fairly tasty BBQ options.

Food is one area that I think being an UberFan helps at Universal. Knowing what is available and what to avoid is helpful. But the same can apply at WDW too. I also avoid the counter service places like Cosmic Ray's. I'd rather just get a waffle sandwich at Sleepy Hallow.
 

CaptainAmerica

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The wildcard in all of this is the rise of the resistance boarding group lottery. As someone else mentioned, if you intend to ride this attraction you really gotta be all in on Hollywood studios when it comes to park reservations. It really takes the flexibility out of your planning for the most part because you’re always going to content with the “what if we don’t get it on that day” mentality.
Plus if I wake up one day and find that the weather isn’t to my liking for a particular park that day for example (just throwing out any type of random example), I don’t have the luxury to “just pick another park to do.” I don’t think it’s fair to say the park reservations are like fastpass.
Rise of the Resistance was ALWAYS boarding groups. What you're describing is absolutely no different than FastPass+.

Then: Make FastPasses at Studios, try for a Rise boarding group, if you don't get it you're screwed.
Now: Make Park Pass at Studios, try for a Rise boarding group, if you don't get it you're screwed.

(It's actually much more convenient now because, in the old world, you had to physically be inside Hollywood Studios before you could even try for a BG, so if you didn't get one you were REALLY screwed, especially if you didn't have a park hopper.)
 

rreading

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Right but ROTR has always been a morning-of situation. It was never bookable at 60.

We had not had the chance to visit before corona so I didn't make that connection!

I suppose that it's even better now that there are park reservations since you can make ROTR reservations without having to rope drop. Fortunately we like HS enough to go even if we couldn't ride ROTR
 

Jon81uk

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I don’t know. The thought of you holding the same apparatus (handlebar) as a few hundred people before you only seconds apart sure does sound fairly potent to spreading germs. IMO it’s no different than riding the subway system in nyc. It may not play a major role in transmission but I find it hard to believe it doesn’t play much of a role at all
It is a way of spreading germs, always has been, stuff like E Coli and other stomach bugs. But for Covid specifically its been massively overstated, Covid spreads in aerosol in breath, worry about droplets from peoples breath and enough ventilation will help with that. In terms of surfaces, do whatever you would have done normally to prevent every other disease, avoid touching your mouth, wash your hands before eating.

More on the overstated risk of covid on surfaces (fomites) here.
 

dav23

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Thanks for the review! I think Universal's theming is definitely a step behind parks like Animal Kingdom but I have to say I've enjoyed staying in their "bubble" almost as much as Disney's lately. It just seems like they make it easier for you to have a good time - walking distance to the parks, unlimited express passes if staying at one of their deluxe hotels, no reservations required - whereas Disney makes you work for it more. Plus Diagon Alley is easily my favorite area in Orlando. I expect different things from both but I think they each provide quality in their own way.
 
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sbunit

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Rise of the Resistance was ALWAYS boarding groups. What you're describing is absolutely no different than FastPass+.

Then: Make FastPasses at Studios, try for a Rise boarding group, if you don't get it you're screwed.
Now: Make Park Pass at Studios, try for a Rise boarding group, if you don't get it you're screwed.

(It's actually much more convenient now because, in the old world, you had to physically be inside Hollywood Studios before you could even try for a BG, so if you didn't get one you were REALLY screwed, especially if you didn't have a park hopper.)
Yes but the point I am making is the following:

Don't get BG for Rise that morning and you decide you do not want to go to the Studios then you have to see what else is available to switch your reservation to. What If two of the remaining 3 parks are unavailable that morning? Leaves the possibility for slim pickings. In the "old world" If you didn't get a BG for rise you can just go where you wanted when you wanted. Obviously that's not the case anymore and it's looking likely as it won't be the case any time soon if ever again.
 

sbunit

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Sad to hear that about Confisco's. I used to go there several years ago and it was a solid affordable table service restaurant. But they changed the menu and removed my favorite item so it sort of fell off my radar. I have thought for a while that they would be better served to turn that location into a counter service noodle shop. And turn Thunder Falls Terrace into a TS called Hammond's (I'll have the Chilean Sea Bass).

I do avoid most of the counter service in the parks although, Monsters Cafe recently got a menu upgrade to include some fairly tasty BBQ options.

Food is one area that I think being an UberFan helps at Universal. Knowing what is available and what to avoid is helpful. But the same can apply at WDW too. I also avoid the counter service places like Cosmic Ray's. I'd rather just get a waffle sandwich at Sleepy Hallow.
We actually had a nice meal at Toothsome on our first evening there. Again, IMO the menu wasn't anything overly exciting considering the scope of the venue, but I will say the food was actually quite tasty and everyone enjoyed their menu. I just feel Universal needs to step up their creativity when it comes to a lot of their menus. And as someone else here noted, the food at the Springfield foodcourt was borderline inedible and we're only talking about themed fastfood type of service there.

The biggest pleasant surprise of the trip was our last minute meal at Liberty Tree tavern over at the Magic Kingdom. It was quite literally one of only two available reservations in the entire resort when i checked in the later part of the afternoon. We decided to give it a try and boy were we surprised. Food quality was actually quite good (All you can eat family style "thanksgiving style" meal consisting of Pot Roast, Turkey, Pulled Pork, Stuffing, mashed potatoes and green beans). We thought because it was available it wasn't a very popular place to eat and our expectations were initially low. But that was probably the best tasting meal of our entire trip (We also scored Dinner at Narcossee's and Cowfish over at Citywalk).
 

CaptainAmerica

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In the "old world" If you didn't get a BG for rise you can just go where you wanted when you wanted.
That is not correct, that's what I'm saying.

In the old world you had to GO to Studios to check for the BG, you couldn't do it from your hotel room before you picked your park. You needed to be through the turnstiles, swiped in, inside the gates of Studios.
 

aliceismad

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I'm glad you had a great time!

You said you have a 5 year old and a 7 year old? How did they like Universal? Did they have any particular challenges or likes during the trip? My kiddo is 6 and we're looking at the possibility of a trip this summer or fall, depending on vaccinations.
 

sbunit

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I'm glad you had a great time!

You said you have a 5 year old and a 7 year old? How did they like Universal? Did they have any particular challenges or likes during the trip? My kiddo is 6 and we're looking at the possibility of a trip this summer or fall, depending on vaccinations.
They both absolutely loved Universal. They’re very much into marvel and grew up on dr Seuss. I’ve also exposed them to the classics from my generation like Jurassic park and back to the future so all the IP there was right up their alley. You have to be sure your kids have a bit of a sense of adventure and enjoy thrill rides however as that’s universal’s bread and butter, otherwise there won’t be much at all to entertain them. Also IMO there still isn’t quite enough to do at universal to justify an entire trip there, I still view it as a side trip during a Disney stay or a short getaway with a few Disney day trips incorporated in the mix like what we did. For us, two full days at Universal is plenty and with the express passes you’d experience everything multiple times at a leisurely pace. If your little guy is into thrills (assuming he’s around the 48 inch mark so he can experience the majority of attractions) he will have a great time
 

JoeCamel

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They both absolutely loved Universal. They’re very much into marvel and grew up on dr Seuss. I’ve also exposed them to the classics from my generation like Jurassic park and back to the future so all the IP there was right up their alley. You have to be sure your kids have a bit of a sense of adventure and enjoy thrill rides however as that’s universal’s bread and butter, otherwise there won’t be much at all to entertain them. Also IMO there still isn’t quite enough to do at universal to justify an entire trip there, I still view it as a side trip during a Disney stay or a short getaway with a few Disney day trips incorporated in the mix like what we did. For us, two full days at Universal is plenty and with the express passes you’d experience everything multiple times at a leisurely pace. If your little guy is into thrills (assuming he’s around the 48 inch mark so he can experience the majority of attractions) he will have a great time
So they missed Barney? I hope they got to see a glitter farting troll at the least
 

Club Cooloholic

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I’m currently sitting in MCO waiting on my flight back home to NYC and wanted to share my thoughts regarding this trip while still fresh in my mind. Hopefully it can serve as a perspective for those out there debating on trip options.

Background:
This was our first trip back to Disney in just over 3 years. The major difference this time around was we decided for the first time ever to not stay on Disney property. This was primarily based on the fact that several pre-pandemic experiences were either not available or have changed. Instead we decided to stay on Universal Property and scheduled two day trips to Disney Parks. Quite frankly, we were suppose to go to Disney this past December for a week and obviously canceled. The driving force behind this last minute trip was my wife and I really wanted to get our 5 year old over there to experience the rides (and whatever experiences may be available) before he outgrows this phase of his imagination. For his personality, We felt he was at prime age to allow his imagination soar at the theme parks.

Previously we’ve always stayed at Deluxe resorts and always signed up for the deluxe dining plan. We enjoy the signature restaurants and for our purposes find that the deluxe dining plan suites our preferences well (we are not over eaters and yes the quantity can be daunting) as we like to have dinner every evening at a signature restaurant (I guess that comes from our habits of eating out in NYC).

With that being said, we flew down this past Monday and spent 5 nights at the Portofino Bay Resort. We didn’t know what to expect in regards to crowds (normally we’d always avoid Disney during any major holiday or school break) but my wife and I both got fully vaccinated, the snow just didn’t want to end in NYC and we were all desperate for a vacation that didn’t involve leaving the US mainland (just in case any Covid related reasons caused any possible havoc on international air travel that could block our way back h

Here we go (and in no specific order)...

1) Both Disney and Universal are putting in the right effort in terms of health related precautions. Temperature checks at both resorts were efficient and not viewed as a hinderance. Mask wearing was enforced by both resorts equally but of course there were a fair share of guests at both resorts that tried to circumvent the rules, some innocently unknowing and others certainly just not giving a flying you know what but they were very few and far between. the weather cooperated for the most part and made the mask wearing tolerable. I however would want no part of wearing the mask during the Florida summer (and I am a healthcare practiitoner who wears one every day and is quite used to it).

Where Universal stands out above Disney is in my opinion the fact that before any guests gets on any attraction they must have hand disinfectant placed onto their hands and wiped down. That makes sense from every which way possible and is a true deterrent to spreading any type of infectious disease. I was shocked that Disney did not utilize this practice.


As sound as Disney’s overall protocols were, However, I do feel that a portion of their practices didn’t make much sense and gave me the sense that it was for window dressing and resulted in what is in my opinion more of a nuisance than anything else. For example, while on line for flight of passage, there was a segment of the line that zigzagged through the festival of the lion king enclosure. We probably spent as much time inside that enclosure with what I estimated was about another 100 or so moving mass of people that it would take to watch the entire festival of the lion king show. Very similar set up for Pirates. If Disney is going to set up lines in this manner (and yes there were social distancing markers) why can’t they just bring back the shows? I personally didn’t see how it made sense or coincided with their decisions to continue to not bring back shows/entertainment. If I’m going to spend 15 minutes or so in an enclosed space with several other people I see no reason why shows aren’t brought back. We experienced the Bourne Stunt show at Universal with every other row utilized and 2 empty seats separating each party and felt it was safe and adequate.

2) Social distancing is hit or miss at both parks. Some people adhere to it more than others and there is no way you can control your neighbors actions without constant reminders if you chose to do so. At the end of the day I noticed that social distancing becomes less compliant as people burn out from the efforts of running around the park, me included. I caught myself on several occasions on line zoning out and just walking past the marker to only correct myself (or have my 7 year old correct me) several times. While there are markers everywhere at both parks guests must have a realistic expectation that the parks aren’t under surveillance like an elementary school class would be and distancing can be quite dynamic but still overall compliant.

3) Florida weather and rain is another factor that should be taken into account. The skys opened on us yesterday in Universal and as a result EVERYONE rushed under the canopy of a nearby restaurant (I believe maybe 3 broomsticks, not sure) and it evolved into a mosh pit of human flesh and the total opposite of social distancing. This is something to keep in mind for those who are especially uneasy to close physical space during these times. Consider the unpredictability of Florida weather and the resulting unpredictability of the human response around you.

4) Park reservations are great for corporate Disney and how they run their business but IMO adds another Avenue of stress in planning your family’s “perfect” Disney vacation. We really wanted to make sure we score boarding passes for Rise of the resistance. But what if we didn’t? Would our 2nd best park option be available? What if the weather changes the day you wanted to go to a certain park and you want to cancel theme parks that day for another day? Risk losing out on possibly not getting into that park later in your trip?

I can see park reservations being great for
Locals. But for those who vacation at Disney infrequently I personally think it’s just another obstacle to plan and stress over as it can remove a great deal of flexibility in your trip. Universal on the other hand, wake up and go where you want based on your plans or whatever you feel like doing that morning. We were
Much less stressed at Universal.


4) we had express passed for Universal which were a God Send. As we all know fastpass wasn’t an option at Disney. Now I can’t accurately comment about the crowd levels at Disney this past week although I’m fairly confident to assume they were on the higher than normal side. With the lack of entertainment and crowd diversions like stage shows and character interactions literally every guest in the park was focused on rides. The lines were considerably longer in Disney as compared to Universal. For those considering going to Disney during periods of school closures please plan accordingly and anticipate long waits with no real way to circumvent them (with the exception of rope drop but that assumes you’re staying on site). As stated Universal IMO for the time being beat out Disney as they are still implementing express pass there and allowed for us to experience everything multiple times at a leisurely pace.

5) Food options are somewhat limited at Disney these days but overall food quality is superior to Universal. I felt Disney still provides a more dynamic array of options than the typical theme park variety. Universal needs to step its game up there.

the virtual ordering at Disney is also a major plus as it keeps you off another line to wait on. It’s actually quite convenient and efficient. However for those who like to spend cash at the park, be warned that you cannot utilize cash at any of the options utilizing the virtual ordering as once you order you must pay with a credit card for the order to process. For some this can be an annoyance who rely on cash.

6) We saw and interacted with much more characters in Universal than Disney. Both parks enforce social distancing with their characters but Universal still has them set up in a stationary manner so you can take pictures with them, albeit 6 feet behind you. Disney has spontaneous unannounced character calvacades which won’t allow you to take any pictures with the characters. Either situation is not ideal but at least with Universal you can take a photo with characters. Universal is also much more lax with dropping your mask to take a photo (Not an option at all at Disney)

7) Disney property is still superior to Universal, it just feels more quaint and homey. I hate to say this but while Universal was nice it felt more “artificial”
And cold. We certainly missed staying and experiencing the Disney bubble but we just couldn’t justify paying for a Disney resort with all the current limitations in place. Both resorts (we had dinner at Narcoossee at the Grand Floridian one night) immaculately clean and well kept with cast members constantly wiping thinhs

Overall we had a great trip and were able to accomplish all our goals (with a lot of planning). We felt safe, the parks were both clean and at the end of the day we were on vacation and enjoying our time
Together as a family.

i would strongly caution those families who are planning a once in a lifetime trip or once in a decade trip to think twice about going to Disney in 2021 however. The essence of what makes Disney special is still
Missing. While there are character calvacades they don’t compare to seeing your little one hug and high five their favorite character. Pictures and keepsakes aren’t the same. The fireworks and shows that distinguish Disney from your average theme park are still missing as well as a good amount of dining. I would strongly recommend this group of vacationers to delay their visit until pre-covid offerings are reintroduced otherwise you will get a water downed experience. For those have been there numerous times, this is a great time to go especially if you can go while schools are in session and crowds are limited. I personally will not be returning until we feel
Comfortable staying on property again which will be strictly dictated by the return of pre-pandemic offerings and protocols.

All of the above are just
My personal opinions and not the opinions of anyone else and should not be viewed as such nor as fact. At the end of the day every family should decide what’s best for theirs and hopefully some of my observations in this thread will help. Regardless Disney is still Disney and it’s still a magical destination. All the best and happy to answer any questions
Totally agree with you on most of this. That was our experience as well, and the sanitizer before each ride at UNI is really good. I do think people tended to be more compliant at Disney with masks and distance than they were at Uni.
Gotta ask though, how did both you and your wife score vaccines so fast?
 

pixie225

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Thanks for the review. We are heading to Disney (after 4 cancellations due to covid) May 1. My family will have our vaccinations by then (getting 1st dose next week) and plan on being as careful as possible. My main worry is "other" people who may not follow the social distancing, etc.
 

aliceismad

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They both absolutely loved Universal. They’re very much into marvel and grew up on dr Seuss. I’ve also exposed them to the classics from my generation like Jurassic park and back to the future so all the IP there was right up their alley. You have to be sure your kids have a bit of a sense of adventure and enjoy thrill rides however as that’s universal’s bread and butter, otherwise there won’t be much at all to entertain them. Also IMO there still isn’t quite enough to do at universal to justify an entire trip there, I still view it as a side trip during a Disney stay or a short getaway with a few Disney day trips incorporated in the mix like what we did. For us, two full days at Universal is plenty and with the express passes you’d experience everything multiple times at a leisurely pace. If your little guy is into thrills (assuming he’s around the 48 inch mark so he can experience the majority of attractions) he will have a great time
Thanks for the info! She should be over the 48-inch mark by that point, but my husband is convinced that many of the rides are still too intense for her.

Did you do the Harry Potter rides, and did the kids enjoy those?
 

AFoodie

Member
I like some of Universal’s in-park food. Granted, I never eat the overpriced regular food (burgers, pizza, etc.), but I really liked the Springfield chicken nuggets & fried shrimp. The Pizza Tots at Green Eggs & Ham were really good. And quite honestly, Disney has NO equivalent to Butterbeer in any form (cold, frozen, hot, ice cream, whatever!). I agree there’s nothing like the Disney nostalgia. But I wouldn’t scoff at Universal’s food. I hear they are killing it with the Mardi Gras food fest. I guess as an Orlando resident, I always experience theme parks differently. I never plan big meals there. Just snacks.
 

EngineerMom

Active Member
You must have gone on a slow day as they do close the parks if it reaches capacity. We went there once when they just announced that they are closed due to capacity and there were a lot of angry guests there, but they did open it back up a couple of hours later. We just killed time in the mall and waited for an announcement. I think the reservation system is better.
I believe if you stay at a Universal Hotel you can get into the parks. The capacity affects people who are not staying at Universal.

I still LOVE Disney but more recently our trips have included staying at Universal at either the beginning or the end of our trip. The 1st time we went to Universal it was a day where we drove over from Disney. Now we stay at Universal and allow 2 days. By staying at one of their deluxe hotels we can walk go over and use our express pass and ride things as much as we want. It is relaxed and we can enjoy the park. I agree that Universal is still a step below Disney World.
As DH describes Disneyland, Universal, etc.....you feel like you are at an amusement park (you are!) but at Disney World you feel like you are at a resort. Probably because places like AK are so lush and you can walk around Epcot, etc. And MK always feels magical!
 

OG Runner

Well-Known Member
Mama Della's is excellent at the Portofino resort. Le Celliar is fantastic at the Canada pavilion in EPCOT.
Comparing Universal & Disney, both have excellent offerings, depending on what you want to eat, and
some offerings you wouldn't give to your dog. If you going to go back and forth saying "Universal is better,
No, Disney is better" or the reverse it is going to be a fruitless discussion.
 

OG Runner

Well-Known Member
You must have gone on a slow day as they do close the parks if it reaches capacity. We went there once when they just announced that they are closed due to capacity and there were a lot of angry guests there, but they did open it back up a couple of hours later. We just killed time in the mall and waited for an announcement. I think the reservation system is better.
I went to Universal for a week in May of 2019. Overall the park was less crowded than Disney. (We went to Animal Kingdom & Epcot also during this trip) The parks are also smaller than Disney, and the wait times for the most part were lower. I know many people on these sites want to compare the two straight up, but I am sorry it is definitely an apples and oranges type of comparison.
 

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