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JT3000

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There’s no guarantee of this — is there even precedent?

I mean, they literally said that's what's happening. We've also been hearing rumors of various quick expansion plans since before construction on the park was even in full swing.

Turns out the "Gamer" lot wasn't referring to Nintendo but rather the LEDs in Celestial Park.

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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
I mean, they literally said that's what's happening.

Have they...
1. Mentioned how much Capex they're going to spend to expand/upgrade the parks?​
2. Given a timeline of when that Capex will be spent?​
3. Mentioned specific new/reimagined attractions?​
 
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Agent H

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Have they...
1. Mentioned how much Capex they're going to spend to expand/upgrade the parks?​
2. Given a timeline of when that Capex will be spent?​
3. Mention specific new/reimagined attractions?​
Ironic how people don’t trust when Disney announces stuff but if universal vaguely mentions doing something the same people take it as a leak from the universal ceo themselves.
 

JT3000

Well-Known Member
Have they...
1. Mentioned how much Capex they're going to spend to expand/upgrade the parks?​
2. Given a timeline of when that Capex will be spent?​
3. Mention specific new/reimagined attractions?​

What am I, their accountant? Why would such details interest me? They just said there were more attractions on the way, which is all the confirmation I needed.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
Did they announce those things? Hell, I'd settle for Mary Poppins.
There were signs for them (and more) when the park opened. Honestly, I’m far more wary of nebulous pre-opening promises of possible future 2.0 expansion than I am of targeted individual attraction adds once you get a bit farther into the life of a park.
 

Andrew25

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Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit is being replaced... that's the first domino to fall.

Fast & Furious: Supercharged is on the chopping block, with USH's version now gone. Wicked experiences are on their way according to Universal themselves.

Disney is very transparent... Universal loves to wait until things are under construction.

Universal has lots of things under development, but they obviously don't want any sort of attention on those things since they have a massive park to open up first.
 

JT3000

Well-Known Member
We're mixing up Disney's overpromised attractions with Universal's secrecy.

Literally telling everyone that you're already working on new attractions isn't really secrecy, but even if their current, unspecified plans were to fall through, I'd certainly take that over officially announcing something only to later cancel it. I don't think Universal's ever made that mistake, thankfully.
 

Gusey

Well-Known Member
Have they...
1. Mentioned how much Capex they're going to spend to expand/upgrade the parks?​
2. Given a timeline of when that Capex will be spent?​
3. Mentioned specific new/reimagined attractions?​
If the Hero Parking Lot rumor is true, that along with a shop window will likely confirm what their next attraction intends to be, unless we end up with another AK Unicorn parking lot.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
Literally telling everyone that you're already working on new attractions isn't really secrecy, but even if their current, unspecified plans were to fall through, I'd certainly take that over officially announcing something only to later cancel it. I don't think Universal's ever made that mistake, thankfully.
It’s not really a mistake, at least in the “unintentional” sense. I guarantee that if Universal had the same announcements-to-dollars pipeline as Disney, they’d also announce things way earlier. Disney has D23 seats to sell, books to publish filled with unrealized plans, no additional property rights holders to whom they’re beholden, and a department in Imagineering that has enduring mystique and a vault filled with ideas that can generate D+ content.
 

Andrew25

Well-Known Member
It’s not really a mistake, at least in the “unintentional” sense. I guarantee that if Universal had the same announcements-to-dollars pipeline as Disney, they’d also announce things way earlier. Disney has D23 seats to sell, books to publish filled with unrealized plans, no additional property rights holders to whom they’re beholden, and a department in Imagineering that has enduring mystique and a vault filled with ideas that can generate D+ content.
Agree. Similar to DVC, Disney has trapped itself into a program/process that can be burdening yet rewardful... so they just push whatever they can no matter what it is.

D23 has become a spectacle for them, so they have to release stuff to fill 2 hours of content.
 

Andrew25

Well-Known Member
They will simply repeat stuff from the last one.
Its Disney's process - Talk about stuff for two or three years before dirt moves.
This is what I expect for next year's D23. One year with significant announcements, with the next year revealing details on previous announcements and minor announcements.

Attractions/new experiences should have a maximum 4-year cycle between announcement and debut.
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
This is just a test. First time they've been recorded and active


Werewolf is more themed than Hippogriff, with the exception that Hippogriff doesn't have those ugly nets along its track.

Since the park's first aerial concept art was release, it was pretty obvious there would be "holes" in the theming. Nintendo and Ministry will be the two "Diagon Alley" level lands in theming. Pretty difficult to see outside those two lands.

HTTYD & Monsters, unfortunately, are where you either get very little theming (Dark Universe) or visual intrusions from outside the world (HTTYD - Stardust) or unthemed showbuildings (Untrainable Dragon building).

Outside of that, the park is great.


I think you can describe any other park in Orlando with this statement.

I'm not defending Universal (I hate some of the choices they've made here creatively and ticketing, etc.), but there will unfortunately be 'duds' in any project of this scale.

I agree with these statements based on what I’ve seen / heard. I do think a lot of theme park enthusiasts will need to temper their expectations a bit from what the hype train has built this up as. This is not a ”Disney killer” and not a game changer for the theme park industry. If all four portal lands were on the immersive level of Ministry then it might be different.
 

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