Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens May 22 2025

[BrianLo]

This is what I alluded to with getting a little bit too far ahead of ourselves with these lumpy investments.

The question still remains not how will Disney respond to Epic Universe, but how will USF and IOA.

We know how the former (Disney is responding). They are continuing to plug away at all their parks with new lands being built and rolling out end of decade to most of their parks.

IOA has nothing currently of note on the docket this decade.

USF is going to limp along to finally maybe start to turn around their fortunes in 2030.



Epic is awesome. But it has sucked up all the air in the room from Universal's pipeline. USF's investment pipeline (that big new actual land) is an entire decade delayed. SNW was supposed to open start of this current decade.

This is where the flaws in the 'we want new gates' mantra start to come out to play.

 

[ToTBellHop]

This is what I alluded to with getting a little bit too far ahead of ourselves with these lumpy investments.

The question still remains not how will Disney respond to Epic Universe, but how will USF and IOA.

We know how the former (Disney is responding). They are continuing to plug away at all their parks with new lands being built and rolling out end of decade to most of their parks.

IOA has nothing currently of note on the docket this decade.

USF is going to limp along to finally maybe start to turn around their fortunes in 2030.



Epic is awesome. But it has sucked up all the air in the room from Universal's pipeline. USF's investment pipeline (that big new actual land) is an entire decade delayed. SNW was supposed to open start of this current decade.

This is where the flaws in the 'we want new gates' mantra start to come out to play.

It will definitely be a challenge for them. They’ll have spent a fortune on EU but USF and IoA will immediately need a lot of work. But EU will be packed and also need expansion ASAP. That’s a lot of spending.

 

[TalkToEthan]

That’s a lot of spending.

As for making a move on the Orlando market share……

“shoot first, ask questions later”, I say.

 

[rd805]

We know how the former (Disney is responding). They are continuing to plug away at all their parks with new lands being built and rolling out end of decade to most of their parks.

I have significantly less faith in Disney than Uni. Disney has nothing announced, and does not fast track anything. These expansions that we all are HOPING for, are best case scenario 3 years away. I have no doubt that Universal will have other ideas in motion once EU is making $$ back to their company. The tickets will be expensive, the souvenirs will fly off the shelves, and we would be dumb to think they don't try to pitch the other 2 theme parks as BONUSES to going to EU, keeping people within their bubble & spending on food/merch at IOA & USF.

 

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bioreconstruct
@bioreconstruct

Aerial photo of the portal of Epic Universe. Arches were recently added at the sides. A tower named Chronos is rising at the center.

Aerial photo of water cascading at rocky features next to the Epic Universe show fountain. At the center are concrete forms for a compass rose type of star in the walkway.

Aerial photo of work so far at the portal Epic Universe. Arches recently added at the sides.

Aerial look at areas near the portal of Epic Universe.The yellow bracing at the Chronos tower is temporary. Zoom in to see the welded green frame.

Aerial photo of the Kirkman Rd extension. Helios Grand Hotel and Epic Universe at center.

Aerial photo of a panel being lowered for the Celestial Carousel roof.Blue netting in areas at the right. Water has been added to the pond in the background for testing. A chain of fountains can be seen. In Epic Universe.

Aerial photo of Helios Grand Hotel in Epic Universe.

Aerial photo of the Epic Universe admission buildings and the park's portal.Blue fencing is seen around the large colorful circle of patterned concrete.

Aerial photo of Celestial Carousel and Stardust Racers in Epic Universe.

Aerial overview of Helios Grand Hotel and the Epic Universe show fountain

 

[wdwfan4ver]

USF is going to limp along to finally maybe start to turn around their fortunes in 2030.

USF is not going to be as bad as you think due to Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit replacement being done before 2030. I am saying that due to the new rumor of the coaster closing in 2026. Also there is rumor for Blue Man Group theater being used for Ghostbusters stage show.

I know you are referring to 2030 for Pokemon being done.

 

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@bioreconstruct

Aerial photo of the Universal Orlando day guest parking garages.At left is Kirkman Rd, the primary route to Epic Universe. Interchange with Sand Lake Rd, top left, at the NW corner of the Epic property.

Aerial photo of the Epic Universe show fountain. Filled with water for testing.

Aerial photo of a restaurant near the Epic Universe show fountain.

Aerial look over the roofline of Helios Grand Hotel to areas near the Epic Universe show fountain. A restaurant is at left.

Aerial photo of the top floor lounge in development at Helios Grand Hotel in Epic Universe.

3 aerial photos with views across the width of Helios Grand Hotel in Epic Universe.

Aerial photo of rock work at the Epic Universe entrance. Also seen is a recently added curved staircase. It's believed that a VIP room is at the upper level. Similar to a VIP room at the front of Universal Studios Florida.

Aerial overview of the front of Epic Universe.

 

[BrianLo]

USF is not going to be as bad as you think due to Hollywood Rip Ride Rockit replacement being done before 2030. I am saying that due to the new rumor of the coaster closing in 2026. Also there is rumor for Blue Man Group theater being used for Ghostbusters stage show.

I know you are referring to 2030 for Pokemon being done.

That’s what I qualify as limping along. Im not, not excited for either of those projects. But they have to also do the leg work for most of the rest of the park, which is still slowly rotting. Then subsequently more things need to be closed for their inevitable replacements.

I really thought they would expedite Pokémon instead of more half measures. Basically this is the downside to a new gate.

 

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bioreconstruct
@bioreconstruct


Aerial photo of work on the top of Helios Grand Hotel. Water can be seen flowing through the rocky cascade below, at the edge of the Epic Universe show fountain.

Aerial photo of Celestial Carousel, the portal of The Isle of Berk, and the front areas of Epic Universe.

Aerial overview of the Epic Universe show fountain, filled for testing. There's concrete forms for a compass rose type of star in the walkway above the rocky cascade at the fountain.

A meandering curve of fountains can be seen in this aerial photo of Epic Universe. From Atlantic restaurant at top of the photo, to the splash pad at center.

Aerial overview of the entrance of Epic Universe.

At center of this aerial photo are recently added trees near Atlantic restaurant in Epic Universe.

Aerial photo of Blue Dragon Pan-Asian Restaurant in Epic Universe.

Aerial look at the launch site for fireworks at Epic Universe. Shells will rise up centered with Helios Grand Hotel and the show fountain in Celestial Park.

Aerial photos of steel frame rising for restaurants near the front of Epic Universe.

 

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bioreconstruct
@bioreconstruct

Aerial photo of what is believed to be a BBQ restaurant in Epic Universe. Windows recently added at right. Seems like the brick exterior might be complete.

Aerial photo of Helios Grand Hotel, Stella Nova, and Terra Luna resorts at Epic Universe.Peninsula in foreground is the park's fireworks launch site.

Aerial overview of Celestial Park in Epic Universe. All water features have water from testing. From the cascade at Luna Overlook, to the cascade at the show fountain.Roof installation has started at Celestial Carousel. Steel frame at the restaurants at bottom right.

Aerial look at buildings for Universal Creative. Located at the NW corner of the Epic Universe property, at the interchange of Kirkman Rd and Sand Lake Rd.

Aerial look at work so far on the cascading water feature at front of Epic Universe. Water recently added for testing.

Aerial photo of the front areas of Celestial Park. The density of trees placed at the Epic Universe entrance (top of this photo) will soon be seen here.

Aerial photo of areas near the Epic Universe splash pad.

Aerial photo of construction at the Kirkman Rd interchange with Sand Lake Rd.Epic Universe at top of the photo. New buildings for Universal Creative at center of this photo.

Aerial photo of work on two small buildings in Celestial Park. At right is CelesTiki bar. In Epic Universe.

Aerial photo of areas near Blue Dragon Pan-Asian Restaurant in Epic Universe.Water is flowing through rocky cascade at left.Concrete forms are in place for a compass rose type of star in the walkway.

 

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bioreconstruct
@bioreconstruct

Aerial photo of a small building in Celestial Park at Epic Universe.

At center of this aerial photo are recently added trees near Atlantic restaurant in Epic Universe.

Aerial photo of a Super Nintendo store and Pizza Moon in Epic Universe.

Aerial look at expansion areas North of Epic Universe. The Wizarding World of Harry Potter at left center. Team Member parking is along Sand Lake Rd, top right.

Aerial look at trees recently placed at an Epic Universe restaurant.

 

[trr1]

That’s what I qualify as limping along. Im not, not excited for either of those projects. But they have to also do the leg work for most of the rest of the park, which is still slowly rotting. Then subsequently more things need to be closed for their inevitable replacements.

I really thought they would expedite Pokémon instead of more half measures. Basically this is the downside to a new gate.

I believe there is an expansion plot next to SNW for Pokemon

 

[lazyboy97o]

I believe there is an expansion plot next to SNW for Pokemon

Things don’t get planned out that far in advance and when things happen it isn’t that nearly.

 

[Jedijax719]

What about a Lord of the Rings land?

 

[JoeCamel]

What about a Lord of the Rings land?

Has someone secured the theme park rights?

 

[lazyboy97o]

What about a Lord of the Rings land?

Possibly elsewhere.

 

[wdwfan4ver]

What about a Lord of the Rings land?

If Universal gets the rights to Lord of the Rings, there will not be any Lord of the Ring attractions in Florida. I am saying that because it is rumored that Lord of the Rings would be one the lands in their far future UK theme park.

What I gathers is Universal doesn't want the UK theme park to have the same attractions as the 3 Florida theme parks have. If Universal has their way with UK theme park, that park would Lord of the Rings, Jurassic World, James Bond, Minions, and Paddington Bear.

 

[JT3000]

If Universal gets the rights to Lord of the Rings, there will not be any Lord of the Ring attractions in Florida

I don't care how badly the Brits wish for exclusivity, I guarantee that would never stand. Not with an IP that popular. Could a hypothetical British park be the first to get LOTR? Sure. Would it be the only park to get it? Absolutely not. Under no circumstances does Univeral buy the park rights to an IP like LOTR and then just stick it in a field in the middle of England & call it a day.

 

[Gusey]

Looking back at when Islands opened in 1999, Universal added:

• 1998 - Twister...Ride It Out and Curious George Goes to Town
• 1999 - Woody Woodpecker's Kidzone & Woody Woodpecker’s Nuthouse Coaster, Islands of Adventure
• 2000 - Men in Black: Alien Attack @ USF, Storm Force Acceletron, Xtreme Xventure, and Flying Unicorn @ IOA
• 2003 - Jimmy Neutron's Nicktoon Blast and Shrek 4-D

 

[lazyboy97o]

I don't care how badly the Brits wish for exclusivity, I guarantee that would never stand. Not with an IP that popular. Could a hypothetical British park be the first to get LOTR? Sure. Would it be the only park to get it? Absolutely not. Under no circumstances does Univeral buy the park rights to an IP like LOTR and then just stick it in a field in the middle of England & call it a day.

This assumes Universal has such a say.