EricsBiscuit
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Starfall Racers is the first new non IP E ticket at Uni or Disney in Orlando in a very long time. Very impressive.
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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens May 22 2025
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TalkToEthan
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………….almost 2 decades ago with Expedition Everest and Mission Space??
Yes, this is refreshing to see.
Is it really an "E" tho?
Will there be a queue superbly themed that tells a story?
Will it be really obvious that "Hey, this is a roller coaster!"
And apparently, the make and break criterion for some people (not me, tho)... will it have AAs?
999th Happy Haunt
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It’s an E. I feel like historically high thrill rides have been E, animatronics/heavy theming or not. Do we count Tron as an E?
TalkToEthan
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I foresee:
Starfall bests Hulk and Velocicoaster on straight thrills
As for theme Starfall is equal to or better than Velocicoaster but nowhere in the league of a Hagrid.
Yes, we call it an E level attraction
(again, just my prediction)
Starfall bests Hulk and Velocicoaster on straight thrills
As for theme Starfall is equal to or better than Velocicoaster but nowhere in the league of a Hagrid.
Yes, we call it an E level attraction
(again, just my prediction)
UNCgolf
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For me, TRON definitely isn't an E and Starfall Racers doesn't look like an E either.
That said, I assume it will be popular enough to be an E (if Universal actually classified things that way).
Rich Brownn
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Nothing in Florida beats Velocicoaster's roll over the lagoon
lazyboy97o
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Universal does use the Disney ticket classification.
So is Rip Ride Rockit an E?
JoeCamel
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You forgot "exposed steel"......
SplashJacket
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VelociCoaster is an E.
Hulk and Rip Ride are not.
Hulk’s theming is fine for the first half the then gets really ugly for the second half.
Starfall’s theming won’t come close to VelociCoaster but should be a tremendous coaster experience (like VelociCoaster and unlike Hulk or Rip Ride) with a spectacular capacity.
Hulk and Rip Ride are not.
Hulk’s theming is fine for the first half the then gets really ugly for the second half.
Starfall’s theming won’t come close to VelociCoaster but should be a tremendous coaster experience (like VelociCoaster and unlike Hulk or Rip Ride) with a spectacular capacity.
999th Happy Haunt
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Reminder that any ticket ratings are completely arbitrary since that system has been gone for decades now
SplashJacket
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The original ticket system as was used and intended, 100%.
The original system used demand/capacity/quality to determine the ticket. The weight of each metric varied drastically, so overall, it could seem arbitrary.
That said, the ticket system people use today is more a set of tiers that reflects quality and scope. That new ticket system is very valid, but also somewhat arbitrary. The old system wasn’t arbitrary because if Disney made a ride a C-ticket, that’s just what it was, but the system for determining which ticket the ride belongs to was pretty arbitrary.
The current ticket system still exists both internally and externally, but absolutely is arbitrary, basically just what certain attractions “feel” like to people. It’s not an exact science (internal and external notions could validly disagree), but I’d say generally one person wouldn’t consider a ride an E-ticket and another person consider the same ride a C-ticket, so I think our general system works pretty well.
lazyboy97o
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The ticket system is still very much in use at Disney, Universal and elsewhere. Every attraction at Epic Universe has a ticket designation and has since the earliest days of the park’s development.
I think if Disney still used the attraction ticket system internally, it wouldn't be arbitrary, because we'd know exactly what they consider each ride to be. The fact that we don't, and end up subjectively arguing about which category each attraction falls into, tells me they don't really use it anymore.
Where'd you hear that?
lazyboy97o
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The leaked Pandora plans used the ticket system.
SplashJacket
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Bill Cipher
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- In the Parks
- Yes
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe in the old system, ticket classifications could also be changed and updated based on guest demand or lack thereof, no? The system did indeed seem somewhat arbitrary if the classification could change on something entirely separate from the merit of the attraction itself and its design, because at that point it became a tool for both operations and marketing. I know in the modern day the tickets are indeed used internally at both Disney and Universal for design classification purposes, but I would love to know if they have direct criteria for how to classify each attraction under the new system. And even if there is a rulebook, how does it differ between the companies?
I feel like the fans do not have a clear definition of the nomenclature for unofficial discussion, and it would be kind of nice to have some direct lines drawn. In my opinion, the modern version of the ticket system (or how I wish it was used) is less a denotation of quality and thrill, but more so of scope and scale.
Na'vi River Journey is a C-ticket and Flight of Passage is an E-ticket, but in no way does that mean NRJ is a lower quality ride than FoP. Both are great experiences with their own unique strengths and flaws. NRJ is a C-ticket because it is a small to medium scale ride with a simpler (compared to FoP) design goal; providing a relaxing pilgrimage through the bioluminescent forest. FoP is an E-ticket because it is a large scale attraction with a dramatic design goal; transporting guests on a dramatic adventure through an alien landscape using a unique ride vehicle with interwoven themes of conservation and natural wonder. The railroad is an A-ticket because its design goal is to transport guests from one point to another throughout MK. See what I mean?
I personally believe demand should be left out of the discussion entirely. Peter Pan's Flight is a ride which garners wait times longer than most of MK's E-tickets, but the actual infrastructure of the ride is built out with the scale and scope of a C-ticket. Obviously this is still somewhat arbitrary because scope and scale are hard to objectify for every attraction, but it would be nice to see some fans come to a consensus on how to define the ticket system going forward. Or, y'know, somebody could just leak WDI's.
Indeed.
The level of the ticket represents the price of riding a ride. And that was originally pegged to how expensive was the ride/attraction to build and maintain.
And usually the more expensive-to-build rides were the bigger and better rides, thus the idea that an "E-Ticket" represented "Best ride" in the mind of guests, and not "Most expensive ride."
But then Disney discovered the ticket tier can be 'adjusted' as a form of crowd management. Has the new Alice ride lost its audience? Bump it down to a B from a D.
Astro ride just a spinner? It's a B. But is the queue really long because of the low capacity? It's now a D.
With the Ticket system gone, guests just label well-like rides with long queues an E.
Internally, WDI still uses the system based on cost and how theme-ified the ride is from queue to exit. And they keep that to themselves. Which is understandable. If they advertised the tier, there'd be no end of online rebuttals about how "it's really only a D!!".
A-E TICKET ATTRACTIONS
Hello all, It's been a while since I have been on the forums. But I have a question for anyone, I'm trying to find a list or what I can find about what attractions are under what tickets (A-E)? Also I'm only looking at attractions in the magic kingdom, and all attractions new and old...
Andrew25
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E-Tickets: Major & expensive attractions that require a gift shop, IP or sponsor to approve construction
D-Tickets: Major attractions that are popular but not as expensive as an E-ticket
C-Tickets: Capacity boosters aka Flat Rides
B-Tickets: lol we don't build these anymore
A-Tickets: lol we don't build these anymore
D-Tickets: Major attractions that are popular but not as expensive as an E-ticket
C-Tickets: Capacity boosters aka Flat Rides
B-Tickets: lol we don't build these anymore
A-Tickets: lol we don't build these anymore