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SpectreJordan

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The first Universal park that could potentially get LotR is if the one in the UK happens. Apparently they want to open the park with no clones specifically from Orlando according to Alicia Stella on IU. That doesn’t mean we wouldn't get LotR, just that it would be years after.
Really? It'd be a homerun to have Hogwarts there. Maybe they could have Hogwarts with a brand new attraction in it?
 

JoeCamel

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lazyboy97o

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Yes. That is not the same as being able to stop Universal from building Harry Potter themed attractions within their parks. WB will be happy to accept money for both.
They have to approve anything new and pleasing them goes beyond just what Universal does with the franchise.
 

celluloid

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They have to approve anything new and pleasing them goes beyond just what Universal does with the franchise.

That is irrelevant to a theme park area existing copacetic with a movie exhibit within the same country. They can give a yes, and have, to both all the way to the bank.
 

Andrew25

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I think the HP fan base would support both. There are multiple HP experiences in NYC right now. I’ve been to 3 or 4 different HP experiences in nyc over the years. It’s always hard to get tickets.
I know Universal is afraid of "cannibalizing" vacations to UOR (UK makes a good chunk of visitors), but any hard-core Potter fans in the UK would have visited Hogsmeade by now. They will still travel to Orlando for the other 2 Potter lands along with the usual trips over to WDW. Diagon, and eventually Ministry, will still be a significant draw for Potter fans.

If the park opens in 2030, Hogsmeade will be 20 years old by then. And I don't think WB should worry about their studio tour losing interest as it'll be a cheaper/more authentic experience that Potter fans still crave.

I just can't wrap my head around a Universal park being built in the UK that doesn't serve Butterbeer. Even if WB loses a bit of attendance, they are making up for that with their licensing/merchandise cut from the parks.
 

ToTBellHop

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I know Universal is afraid of "cannibalizing" vacations to UOR (UK makes a good chunk of visitors), but any hard-core Potter fans in the UK would have visited Hogsmeade by now. They will still travel to Orlando for the other 2 Potter lands along with the usual trips over to WDW. Diagon, and eventually Ministry, will still be a significant draw for Potter fans.

If the park opens in 2030, Hogsmeade will be 20 years old by then. And I don't think WB should worry about their studio tour losing interest as it'll be a cheaper/more authentic experience that Potter fans still crave.

I just can't wrap my head around a Universal park being built in the UK that doesn't serve Butterbeer. Even if WB loses a bit of attendance, they are making up for that with their licensing/merchandise cut from the parks.
Same. Maybe just don’t clone the rides. They could design a new ride and then bring it over to Orlando five years later or something. That’d get American HP fans to fly to London, honestly. Warner Bros. would surely love that, since that type of person would go to the Studio Tour, too. HP fans never say, “that’s enough Wizarding World for this week.”
 

celluloid

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Universal Studios Japan and the WB Studio Potter Studio Tour experience already both exist in the same region. It has already happened. Like many attractions, they find there is more money to be made than there are cannibalization. WB wins money from both. A theme park and a studio tour exhibit are both attractions, but different and can both do well just fine.

The land Universal has for Europe does not have final plans yet, and may include some originality for sure, but yes, it is a safe bet it will include Potter in some form if it comes to fruition in the next eight years.
 

lazyboy97o

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Universal Studios Japan and the WB Studio Potter Studio Tour experience already both exist in the same region. It has already happened.
This is like saying the Georgia Aquarium in Atlanta and SeaWorld Orlando are in the same region. Not to mention the significant population differences.
 

celluloid

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This is like saying the Georgia Aquarium in Atlanta and SeaWorld Orlando are in the same region. Not to mention the significant population differences.
Atlanta to Orlando are over 400 miles. Nearly twice the distance from Tokyo to Osaka. With transportation driving nearly seven hours or paying for flight.
In a world where the Shinkansen exists...its even easier in travel and a day trip for many to go to Osaka and back to Tokyo. Bad comparison there for you to make.

Your comparison with aquarium exhibits vs attraction exhibit venues within a theme park are just further examples that prove you wrong.

Sea World and Sea Life Aquarium both co-exist, as does the Clearwater Aquarium less than two hours down the Gulf Coast among other cross over.



There are many examples. With the same company granting licensing it is even easier. WB will not say no to making more money. They were not worried about the Cursed Child coming to play. It just brings more people.


Very different mediums, same fandom.
 
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ToTBellHop

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Atlanta to Orlando are over 400 miles. Nearly twice the distance from Tokyo to Osaka. With transportation driving nearly seven hours or paying for flight.
In a world where the Shinkansen exists...its even easier in travel and a day trip for many to go to Osaka and back to Tokyo. Bad comparison there for you to make.

Your comparison with aquarium exhibits vs attraction exhibit venues within a theme park are just further examples that prove you wrong.

Sea World and Sea Life Aquarium both co-exist, as does the Clearwater Aquarium less than two hours down the Gulf Coast among other cross over.



There are many examples. With the same company granting licensing it is even easier. WB will not say no to making more money. They were not worried about the Cursed Child coming to play. It just brings more people.


Very different mediums, same fandom. Give it a rest dude. You wrong.
I think some people grossly downplay the HP fanbase’s size, loyalty to the IP, and willingness to spend money. At Universal, take any product, slap a Potter logo on it, and people pay 20% more.

People will go to NYC, visit the HP store then the museum exhibit and then see Cursed Child at night. Before the pandemic, they gladly made a weekend of it when Cursed Child was four acts.

How many stores in a typical mall sell at least one HP product? And they aren’t even putting out books or films right now. This thing runs itself.
 

celluloid

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I think some people grossly downplay the HP fanbase’s size, loyalty to the IP, and willingness to spend money. At Universal, take any product, slap a Potter logo on it, and people pay 20% more.

People will go to NYC, visit the HP store then the museum exhibit and then see Cursed Child at night. Before the pandemic, they gladly made a weekend of it when Cursed Child was four acts.

How many stores in a typical mall sell at least one HP product? And they aren’t even putting out books or films right now. This thing runs itself.

The fact that each Major Universal Orlando park is going to have an entire area, tells us all we need to know that a play, an exhibit and a theme park land could exist just fine at the same time in England where so much of the tourism of the last four and future three generations probably expect to see it.
 

UNCgolf

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I thought Hogwarts Legacy was a misfire -- it's not bad, it's just... misguided. Hogwarts and Hogsmeade are by far the best part of the game, but very little of the story actually takes place there, and most of the students/professors are just set dressing. There are only a handful of characters with any personality.

It was also a wild choice to have a 15 year old killing literally hundreds of goblins and wizards.

It would have been a much better game with a smaller focus on just being a student at Hogwarts, with trips to Hogsmeade and possibly a few excursions elsewhere (like Diagon Alley). Hogwarts Castle is fantastically detailed, full of all the nooks and crannies you'd hope for, and it's barely utilized.

Regardless, it was obviously incredibly successful, even if the game itself doesn't live up to the sales figures IMO.
 

phillip9698

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I thought Hogwarts Legacy was a misfire -- it's not bad, it's just... misguided. Hogwarts and Hogsmeade are by far the best part of the game, but very little of the story actually takes place there, and most of the students/professors are just set dressing. There are only a handful of characters with any personality.

It was also a wild choice to have a 15 year old killing literally hundreds of goblins and wizards.

It would have been a much better game with a smaller focus on just being a student at Hogwarts, with trips to Hogsmeade and possibly a few excursions elsewhere (like Diagon Alley). Hogwarts Castle is fantastically detailed, full of all the nooks and crannies you'd hope for, and it's barely utilized.

Regardless, it was obviously incredibly successful, even if the game itself doesn't live up to the sales figures IMO.

The thing that prevented them from making the student simulator that some fans clamor for is that at the end of the day a video game with that budget needs to be fun and exciting with mass appeal.

Could they have added a bit more story to the Hogwarts areas, yes, but going full student simulator would have led to a sales catastrophe.
 

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