sonoma15
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What kind of concept art did you see LMAO
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Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens May 22 2025
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Probably something posted by DisTwitter. What little details they've finished already look higher quality than anything in Toy Story Land.
Andrew25
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Never understood the complaint about parks being too small acreage-wise. Disneyland is smaller than MK, yet has double the attractions, runs more entertainment and has about the same attendance, and most fans are in agreement that Disneyland is the better of the two domestic castle parks.
Look at Bio's aerials of the lands, we're actually getting rock work here... something they stripped TSL of during its budget cutting phase.
I do agree, this is a land designed to compete against TSL (not in franchise power, but in attractions/experiences), but so far this one is looking more interesting.
lazyboy97o
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Toy Story Land’s high budget wasn’t cut, they spent the money elsewhere on the land.
Andrew25
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Where was that money moved? lol
The land is pretty much the same as it was displayed in the first iteration of the concept art released before cutting the terrain work and Woody/Al's Barn facades.
Unless they underestimated the cost of bamboo, I don't know where else they spent that cash lol
Rich Brownn
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Except the "hub" here also has attractions... and the layout makes better use of the area
ToTBellHop
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HTTYD is definitely the least interesting part of this project for me but it serves a purpose.
TalkToEthan
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I really hope Train Your Dragon and Werewolf coasters will be noticeably better than Slinky Dash.
I expect big things from Starfall Racers and Donkey Kong but those other two best not be done like that pinch a penny Slinky Dog
I expect big things from Starfall Racers and Donkey Kong but those other two best not be done like that pinch a penny Slinky Dog
Yes, Disneyland has more attractions, but it's also extremely cramped and feels very busy even when it isn't. That's the trade-off. There's also the matter of attraction size. Disneyland has a lot of relatively small-scale attractions. Universal is focusing on E-tickets and coasters, the latter of which take up a lot of space even when they're of the family variety. You're not getting any Fantasyland dark rides here.
The hub has attractions, but one of those attractions isn't actually inside the hub, it's taking up a huge chunk of land off to the side of the hub. Most of the actual hub is dedicated to auxillary venues rather than attractions, some of which have reportedly been axed already.
Magic Kingdom doesn't have the best layout by any means, especially with regards to keeping itself open to expansion, but I'll need to see Epic Universe filled out before we can actually compare the two in any meaningful way.
The Wolfman coaster looks to be extremely short, even if it hits the midcourse launch multiple times. It spins, and might have a show scene or two, but I still wouldn't get my hopes up too far. The HTTYD coaster should fall somewhere between Slinky Dog & Hagrid's in scope.
TalkToEthan
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That’s getting close to the the gamut of coasters put out by Universsl and Disney. Of course the lowest of the lows is something like a Barnstormer or Nuthouse coaster
That’s a sizable range; Hagrid has a number of folk(I’m one) calling it the most elaborate and complex coaster anywhere and then there are others(I’m one) who find Slinky lackluster.
Sirwalterraleigh
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Hagrids is really good…slinky is rather dull and off the shelf caliber with themed trains
ToTBellHop
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I am surprised there are no drenching water rides here (right?). It will be strange to have three theme parks and only one will have true water rides (and three, no less). I guess I’ll have to settle for the HTTYD splash battle ride. Just rode one at Legoland and it was super lame.
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Sirwalterraleigh
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Follows the industry trend though…water rides really haven’t been constructed since 2000…with the exception of occasional water park proper
ToTBellHop
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At least Disney still builds them. Aren’t three opening in Tokyo next month? And DAK should soon get a third (“Soon” on Disney’s slower-than-continental drift pace).
999th Happy Haunt
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Are we counting Navi as a water ride? I know you’re in a boat for it but there’s not even one moment where there’s a chance of getting sprinkled.
ToTBellHop
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I was, but you are right, DAK would be getting its second splashy ride.
Really wish DHS would get one…
Sirwalterraleigh
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…so you’re giving air to that nonsense?
Anyway…I meant splashy water rides…not boat rides that serve as dark ride conveyance
Domestic Parks - at least - don’t build soakers…even when it’s ungodly hot…
Andrew25
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I think when executives visit the parks they run once a year during the winter, god forbid they go during the hot summer months, they see short waits and can't find a reason to build more of them.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Good point
They also have more limited appeal than before….I don’t think alot of people like the wet feel in parks.
Yes. Without a change of clothes on hand, or panchos and a lot of luck, it tends to be a soggy hassle.
No one ever really topped the soaking wet ride designs of Busch Gardens Tampa and Toon Lagoon at Islands of Adventure in my humble opinion.