Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens May 22 2025

lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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OG Runner said:
Maybe they should have leveled the building then. It would have taken them less time. I don't care if it also has an
additional sub-basement and two extra floors. It took a longer time to redo the theater for the new show than anyone
thought it would.
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I’m guessing anyone who thought it took too longer isn’t very familiar with how things get built.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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OG Runner said:
Terminator 3D closed in October of 2017. Bourne Stuntacular opened in May of 2020.
Three years for one building. I honestly don't think it will take that long for Epic Universe
to be up and running and it is working from the ground up.
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Construction didn’t start in October 2017. I’m not sure why Universal felt the rush to close the attraction so far out, but they did. They did initial anticipate a less ambitious renovation which resulted in the originally promised 2019 opening.
 
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celluloid

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OG Runner said:
Maybe they should have leveled the building then. It would have taken them less time. I don't care if it also has an
additional sub-basement and two extra floors. It took a longer time to redo the theater for the new show than anyone
thought it would.
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I don't remember anyone stating how long it would take? 2019 to early 2020 is not extreme. There were construction issues which caused delays. It was an all new show, in an essentially new building with new tech and then a Pandemic shut down still took less than two and a half years to be ready to open. Not unreasonable for a huge live stunt based production with new tech to coordinate.

You say they have no Industry Standard, yet you feel it took longer than anyone thought it should?

Sounds like Universal is setting the standard to me.
 
tommyhawkins

tommyhawkins

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OG Runner said:
Terminator 3D closed in October of 2017. Bourne Stuntacular opened in May of 2020.
Three years for one building. I honestly don't think it will take that long for Epic Universe
to be up and running and it is working from the ground up.
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it was rehearsing and auditioning by December 2019 so thats 2 years which is half the time of anything Disney does
 
My95cobras

My95cobras

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OG Runner said:
Terminator 3D closed in October of 2017. Bourne Stuntacular opened in May of 2020.
Three years for one building. I honestly don't think it will take that long for Epic Universe
to be up and running and it is working from the ground up.
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they demolished prime evil whirl a few months ago, should we have started the clock on the replacement when that started?
 
OG Runner

OG Runner

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lazyboy97o said:
Construction didn’t start in October 2017. I’m not sure why Universal felt the rush to close the attraction so far out, but they did. They did initial anticipate a less ambitious renovation which resulted in the originally promised 2019 opening.
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So both companies can give excuses for any an all delays it takes for a project to be completed. I hate to be the
bearer of bad news but neither Disney or Universal are perfect, in planning, timing or execution. Stop make excuses.
The reality is what it is.
 
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jpinkc

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I hate to say this as a lifelong Disney Diehard, but after experiencing Diagon Alley, and Hogsmead, compared to Galaxies Edge, I am more excited to see what Uni does with this Epic Universe than anything Disney has planned or opening "soon". Pandora is truely pretty but lifeless in comparison to those 2 lands. Old HS when we had streetmosphere and Old Epcot when it had that too were far more alive than today.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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OG Runner said:
So both companies can give excuses for any an all delays it takes for a project to be completed. I hate to be the
bearer of bad news but neither Disney or Universal are perfect, in planning, timing or execution. Stop make excuses.
The reality is what it is.
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What reality? You didn’t even know the scope of work. How long should it take to prepare construction drawings for such a scope? How long should work then take after permitting? What are the code implications of adding hazardous materials for pyrotechnics to an Assembly occupancy?
 
tommyhawkins

tommyhawkins

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OG Runner said:
Then it opened 5 months later. Disney is doing test runs on GofG. Does that make it open? Stop throwing
out stupid information for now really reason.
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Pointing out that construction was not as long as you implied is not "studid information" . As someone who clearly loves Disney you should know about whenattractions are done with construction and when they open are not always the same thing, when for example a completely finished ride sits idle for seven months in a park that desperate for more capacity.
OG Runner said:
Absolutely. I am not aware that they currently have a plan to replace Primeval Whirl though.
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they do
 
OG Runner

OG Runner

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tommyhawkins said:
Pointing out that construction was not as long as you implied is not "studid information" . As someone who clearly loves Disney you should know about whenattractions are done with construction and when they open are not always the same thing, when for example a completely finished ride sits idle for seven months in a park that desperate for more capacity.

they do
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I would be happy to know what they plan to replace it with. By your statement you have some information. How about elaborating
beyond two words.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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OG Runner said:
Amazingly, a total lack of knowledge in reference to those same items in reference to other projects has never stop you,
in particular, from complaining or stating something is taking too long to be done. I understand one park or another may
not be to your liking, but stop making up things to suit your argument, when on a regular basis you ignore the things you
are using to support your view.
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Just because you don’t know something doesn’t mean others do not know something. I gave you an example of the scope of work involved. I have provided detailed explanations for why things are, from processes to codes to comparable examples, including defending the original timelines for TRON and Ratatouille.
 
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celluloid

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OG Runner said:
So both companies can give excuses for any an all delays it takes for a project to be completed. I hate to be the
bearer of bad news but neither Disney or Universal are perfect, in planning, timing or execution. Stop make excuses.
The reality is what it is.
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Only one has taken five years plus to build a cloned rollercoaster. With a lot more resources than its competitor who has never taken that long to build any attraction or theme park before. Disney has reached new lows in the last decade.

No one ever said either was perfect, but dragging feet is dragging feet.
 
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celluloid

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OG Runner said:
And you know what the construction schedule was, and how long it took to order and receive the equipment?
You make it sound like you were in on the ground floor to be able to speak to the construction schedule. Things
I am thinking you do not know about, about other projects yet despite your stating you back up your comments
I have rarely seen you do that.
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I do. Everything was on schedule until late 2018 when lines broke and was a problem where the COO himself had to come out and decide how to go going forward. It was an unforeseen hiccup to be sure and some things had to be redone. This was after everything was initially dug out and some things were redone. Late December 2019 was then the goal for soft openings with grand opening in Early 2020, concerns were then afoot about the new virus going on in Asia and many corporate level meetings and phone calls to decide who was going to open anything or if things would close at all, then things closed in Asia, and it got postponed. This effected third party situations because entertainment basically just coordinates the role of the host of the show. That is why things went from grand opening in the early year 2020 to the delayed time after the parks in Florida were reopening.

Disney is still working on that cloned coaster more than four years in construction. With a railroad still not ready to reopen.

You can feel that it is ok to you that they drag their feet as their business model, but it is objectively happening.
 
tommyhawkins

tommyhawkins

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celluloid said:
I do. Everything was on schedule until late 2018 when lines broke and was a problem where the COO himself had to come out and decide how to go going forward. It was an unforeseen hiccup to be sure and some things had to be redone. This was after everything was initially dug out and some things were redone. Late December 2019 was then the goal for soft openings with grand opening in Early 2020, concerns were then afoot about the new virus going on in Asia and many corporate level meetings and phone calls to decide who was going to open anything or if things would close at all, then things closed in Asia, and it got postponed. This effected third party situations because entertainment basically just coordinates the role of the host of the show. That is why things went from grand opening in the early year 2020 to the delayed time after the parks in Florida were reopening.

Disney is still working on that cloned coaster more than four years in construction. With a railroad still not ready to reopen.

You can feel that it is ok to you that they drag their feet as their business model, but it is objectively happening.
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lines broke?
 

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