Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Now Open!

[Disstevefan1]

Except that the parks maintain lists of approved contractors, sub-contractors and vendors,

Except the cheap inexperienced low bidders are the ones on the approved lists

Oh boy, if the contractors who put in the in ground lighting at EPCOT and did the cement work at EPIC are the APPROVED contractors, then both of them need to REWRITE their approved lists!!!

I still think this is about Disney and Universal, as the customer, NOT properly overseeing/inspecting the work as its happening.

Just my opinion.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Oh valid point, but was that still the case for Epic (actually curious)? Since it was such a massive capital project I've seen larger corporations shirk their typical partnerships and take different contracting strategies.

Also design-bid-build doesn't matter with what I was trying to describe, you still have to bring on a concrete subcontractor thru a bid process. I'm assuming Universal uses a CM at risk or design build type role with their GC partners and I'd assume there's a full competitive bid process to bring on trade partners under the GC. Only caveat I guess is if the GC self performs concrete and it's written into their contract with Universal that they can self perform without competing.

Even sub-contractors have to be approved vendors and it’s not unusual for Disney, Universal or United to dictate the use of certain sub-contractors. With Epic Universe there were limitations on what materials and systems could be used specifically because they knew who would be involved and were seeking to avoid over-extending.

 

[Tom Morrow]

They're gonna have to re-pave all of Celestial Park within a year or two at this rate. I don't think this should be handwaved. An oversight like this shouldn't happen with a big, powerful company with this much experience.

Again, at least luckily the portal "worlds" seem unaffected for now.

 

[mkt]

Even sub-contractors have to be approved vendors and it’s not unusual for Disney, Universal or United to dictate the use of certain sub-contractors. With Epic Universe there were limitations on what materials and systems could be used specifically because they knew who would be involved and were seeking to avoid over-extending.

Epic was also hit by unexpected COVID-era inflation and supply chain shortages that wrecked budgets and upended plans made in the 2010s. Throwing money at the problem - which is what Comcast did - can only fix so much.

There's not a single project manager on the planet who could've predicted this.

 

[Fido Chuckwagon]

Epic was also hit by unexpected COVID-era inflation and supply chain shortages that wrecked budgets and upended plans made in the 2010s. Throwing money at the problem - which is what Comcast did - can only fix so much.

There's not a single project manager on the planet who could've predicted this.

In like 2050 we’re still going to be blaming Covid when rides break down or scenery crumbles at Disney and Universal.