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AidenRodriguez731

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Je ne sais quoi.


Tell us how you really feel.


Did you avert your eyes from all of the various window displays while walking through, some with animatronics? The interactive paintings? The walkaround characters?
Uh no, like I said, when I’m walking around, some minor stuff in the windows does not fill the land or make it feel anywhere kinetic like how Tomorrowland or even Toy Story Land
 

AidenRodriguez731

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I like that we are comparing universals third wizarding world where they were towards the end of the idea train with THE Star Wars land. It’s fun.

To be fair, appropriate because this is an epic thread. Bit of an agenda by some. That’s okay.

With that being said, when we were at WDW in march, we hardly spent any time in galaxy’s edge with the kids. We did the two rides, ran into Mando while using the bathroom. And that was it. There wasn’t anything that was keeping us there. And that’s sort of how I felt from early on. Which is disappointing because I’m a really big Star Wars fan. While we don’t plan on going back to WDW for the foreseeable future, I hope they do invest in making it better. For everyone else.

Bringing it back to wizarding Paris, the focus on beasts over the characters from those movies was the way to go. Happy they added a show to mix it up. And I could do the battle queue just on its own. 😂 they could expand it but i would rather see an additional portal before anything else happens to any other portal, outside of adjustments here and there of course.

And do I care about sightlines? Sure. But it’s not priority for me in this instance.
Honestly I think the land feels kinda slapped together because of the ride. The weird time travel rules don’t work for me when the “effect” is just a ticking clock sound effect. It’s part of Harry Potter but it feels lazy and half formed fitting for a park with Quasimodo and Paris 😉
 

earlthesquirrellover23

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Kinetic? Did you and I go to a different park or something? I did not see many kinetics? Other than the upcharge wand spots which aren't fully "kinetic" in a park of THAT scale
Did you look into any of the windows or buildings? Even without a wand there is kinetic energy everywhere, it's one of my favorite lands ever to just hang out in. It gets even better at night with all the projection and lighting effects everywhere. Shoutout to my favorite little guy:
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JT3000

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Uh no, like I said, when I’m walking around, some minor stuff in the windows does not fill the land or make it feel anywhere kinetic like how Tomorrowland or even Toy Story Land
It's not "minor stuff in the windows," it's a large chunk of the land's theming you're ignoring. The other lands you named have rides visibly moving around, if that's the sort of kinetics you're into, but they both lack the sort of smaller details that bring these more immersive lands to life.

Because if it’s bad about the park and not Disney, we ignore it and excuse it of course. Disney does it “ruins the immersion”. Universal does it “people care too much about sight lines” magically.

Likewise, if a land at Disney has an exposed rollercoaster, it's valuable "kinetic energy." If Universal has the same, it's "just a rollercoaster" that ruins sightlines.

Like magic.
 
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Sir_Cliff

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Likewise, if a land at Disney has an exposed rollercoaster, it's valuable "kinetic energy." If Universal has the same, it's "just a rollercoaster" that ruins sightlines.

Like magic.
Genuinely would be examples of exposed rollercoasters at Disney been accepted/praised in this way?

All I can think of is Tron mostly getting a free pass for that section of exposed coaster under the canopy. There has been plenty of criticism of it for the sightlines toward the show building from Fantasyland, though.
 

JT3000

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Genuinely would be examples of exposed rollercoasters at Disney been accepted/praised in this way?

All I can think of is Tron mostly getting a free pass for that section of exposed coaster under the canopy. There has been plenty of criticism of it for the sightlines toward the show building from Fantasyland, though.
Both of the lands praised for their kinetics by the poster I was responding to have exposed rollercoasters, Tron being one of them. That same land also has a spinner and an unthemed predecessor to Epic's Yoshi ride.
 

Gusey

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Everything surrounding the land looks natural, as opposed to an endless unbroken multi-story building of Diagon Alley and Ministry (as in all the buildings are the same height and there are no gaps between them) or literal painted walls of SNW. Also, note that the tree berms surrounding Galaxy's Edge are not just raised land with trees on top, but they appear to be natural formations of the geography, cut through by machinery in some places, untouched in others.
I will say that the settings of London and Paris will always look less natural than a fictional planet because they are cities. I did think with Diagon Alley that there are a lot of height differences and Paris does have a fair amount of gaps and different buildings, particularly in the centre. What's going for Paris' future vs Galaxy's Edge is that there is the massive expansion pad where the Cancelled ride was meant to be, whereas GE doesn't have that much expansion space left for any major expansion besides a Table Service. I do think Wizarding World is the weakest land at Epic when it comes to offerings, but it has the potential to become better built in from the start
 

Tom Morrow

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Because if it’s bad about the park and not Disney, we ignore it and excuse it of course. Disney does it “ruins the immersion”. Universal does it “people care too much about sight lines” magically.

Or another popular framing of it:

If Disney has bad sightlines it's because they're always making dumb decisions now and their quality is slipping!

If Universal has bad sightlines its because they smartly focused their attention and resources toward other things.

Mind you, the worst sightline possible at WDW doesn't even scratch the surface of how bad some of the sightlines at Epic are.
Likewise, if a land at Disney has an exposed rollercoaster, it's valuable "kinetic energy." If Universal has the same, it's "just a rollercoaster" that ruins sightlines.

Like magic.

?? Disney park fans are typically the first to complain about exposed coaster track.
 

Andrew C

You know what's funny?
Or another popular framing of it:

If Disney has bad sightlines it's because they're always making dumb decisions now and their quality is slipping!

If Universal has bad sightlines its because they smartly focused their attention and resources toward other things.

Mind you, the worst sightline possible at WDW doesn't even scratch the surface of how bad some of the sightlines at Epic are.
Not quite sure why you are creating this straw man...

I think everyone understands that you see a bunch of flaws at Epic that drive you crazy. But maybe not get so angry about others seeing things differently.
 

Jayspency

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In the Parks
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Genuinely would be examples of exposed rollercoasters at Disney been accepted/praised in this way?

All I can think of is Tron mostly getting a free pass for that section of exposed coaster under the canopy. There has been plenty of criticism of it for the sightlines toward the show building from Fantasyland, though.

?? Disney park fans are typically the first to complain about exposed coaster track.
I think Disney should start building some of their coasters with exposed track, and not like slinky dog where the theme of the ride is that “it’s a roller coaster”. The main argument against this is that it ruins the immersion but we’ve seen in instances such as hiccups at epic that even exposed coasters can add to the energy and immersion of a themed land. And I think having Disney be able to do something like that would be really cool. What they have with Tron going under the canopy shows that they can do it if they want to, and I haven’t heard anyone complaining about the track being exposed or unthemed.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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I think Disney should start building some of their coasters with exposed track, and not like slinky dog where the theme of the ride is that “it’s a roller coaster”. The main argument against this is that it ruins the immersion but we’ve seen in instances such as hiccups at epic that even exposed coasters can add to the energy and immersion of a themed land. And I think having Disney be able to do something like that would be really cool. What they have with Tron going under the canopy shows that they can do it if they want to, and I haven’t heard anyone complaining about the track being exposed or unthemed.
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