Two different plans for Mickey's Toontown

mharrington

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This is for two possible ideas to improve Mickey's Toontown at Disneyland, but it depends on whether or not a copy of the Runaway Railway gets built. If the Runaway Railway gets built, it will likely take up a lot of space especially if it's copied in its entirety from Florida. Either way, it would involve a brand-new kiddie coaster to replace Gadget's Go Coaster, because the space will likely take over that area anyway (the theme will be both Donald and Goofy bunking in together), and I think all castle parks need a kiddie coaster now. All others have one now:
  • Magic Kingdom: The Great Goofini
  • Tokyo: A copy of Gadget
  • Paris: Casey Jr.
  • Hong Kong: Would RC Racer count?
If the Runaway Railway doesn't get built, however, I will revert to my original plans, which is to move the coaster track around and theme it to Donald (the old boat will be removed for this), while Goofy's Playhouse is the setting for a new car ride that is best described as a cross between Mr. Toad and the old Midget Autopia.

I will post my ideas my ideas later, but first I will also mention something else: regardless of what happens, the hilly look behind Toontown, whose paint perpetually faded and/or cracked in the hot CA sun, will be removed. Instead, there will now be along the back. And the Jolly Trolley tracks will be removed (which means the Trolley itself is removed) and the "station" in the center now has trees in the area, to hopefully provide shading. Also, would muted colors work better, as opposed to the bright, cartoon-like colors, to help minimize the risk of fading and/or cracks?
 

mharrington

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In case the Runaway Railway concept doesn't pan out, here's the first of the two new rides for Mickey's Toontown, which assumes the collective space of Chip 'n' Dale's Treehouse, Gadget's Go Coaster and Donald's Boat, to create a brand-new kiddie coaster, which may or may not be the old Go Coaster with a new theme:

In the past, most coasters have had a Goofy theme (i.e., the Great Goofini's Barnstormer, Goofy's Sky School), but not this time. No, this time, the theme is now on Donald Duck! The ride will be set in a brand-new house of Donald's, which will take over the property once occupied by Gadget's Go Coaster and Chip 'n' Dale's Treehouse. The new house, where the queue is, will be a mashup of a boat and a house, and look something like this (the concept is based on the abandoned concept of Mickeyville, but done in the Donald color scheme of blue, white and yellow):
Donald%27sDock90.jpg


The concept will revolve around Donald opening up some kind of an airboat school/service thing. It will fly over a new lake. The ride will be called Donald's Air Academy (as a response to Goofy's Sky School at the California Adventure). The queue will be in Donald's new boat-house/house-boat/house and boat, as stated earlier. You wind your way through Donald's boat. It will feature several interactive elements. One is a rope based on the one you can pull in the queue of the Indiana Jones ride (a sign nearby tells you not to do it). You pull on that and a British-sounding man yells at you for doing so. You can pull on this rope in this queue and hear Donald yelling at you for doing so. There is also a radio in the corner, too, again set to KRAZY Radio (the same new loop as mentioned above). Also in the queue is this big map on the wall, looking like this one in WDW's now-extinct Toontown Fair (in fact, maybe Disneyland can claim ownership of the real deal here now that Toontown Fair is gone (just revise the direction "To Toontown Fair" to "To Mickey's Toontown"):
Donald_Ducks_Boat_in_the_Magic_Kingdom.jpg


Another interactive element in the queue is another rope, supposedly attached to the boat's steam whistle. But when you pull on it, not only does the whistle on the boat emit a boat whistle-like sound, but instead of steam, the whistle sprays out a blast of water onto passersby outside the boat and just walking around. It could provide a nice refreshing treat on a hot day. When the weather gets colder out, it can be reduced or even turned off altogether.

Anyway, onto the roller coaster itself: The roller coaster train looks like a cross between an airboat and the Spruce Goose. It will look like a boat, but have its wings on the bow, a propeller on the front and a tail with an airboat propeller on the back. Along the bottom of the boat-plane would be a huge rubber raft-like thing (at least that's how it's supposed to look), making it also something like a hovercraft. It could be something like how in "Plane Crazy", Mickey made up his plane from a car. As if named after the Spruce Goose, the plane in the new ride will be called the Drake (meaning "Von Drake", suggesting that Ludwig Von Drake made this for Donald) D-34 Swooper, or commonly called the Deciduous Duck (since the Spruce Goose was largely made of wood). Thus, the makeshift flying boat/seaplane/airboat craft would be called the Deciduous Duck. Also, the craft will be painted in the Donald color scheme: blue, yellow and white. Just as you head out the back door of Donald's home, you pass by plans for the new plane, created by Von Drake

Okay, now that we got the description of the roller coaster train out of the way, let's move on. The roller coaster will fly up and over the new Toon lake, dodging characters try to take aim at you with water, such as spitting frogs perched on the rocks (they're actually the same ones previously used in Gadget's Go Coaster) or Donald's nephews, Huey, Dewey and Louie, all scattered about the lake and firing water cannons at you. There's also Goofy in a boat, trying to fish. He's caught a bite, but the fish in question is dragging his line along and spinning his boat around. This boat accidentally kicks up water in your path. The idea is that Donald, as part of his service, is having you take out his new Deciduous Duck aircraft for a test flight, but it seems that there are more than a few bugs to work out (hence the roller coaster part).

Similar to the Great Goofini coaster at WDW, Donald's Air Academy may or may not have Fastpass. Like its predecessor, Gadget's Go Coaster, it will also be sponsored by Sparkle paper towels. It will also have a Single Rider option.

Anyway, that's Donald's Air Academy, the first of two new rides for Mickey's Toontown at Disneyland, should the Runaway Railway concept not go forward here. The second is coming up...
 

mharrington

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The second of the two new rides is where Goofy's Playhouse is right now. Set therein is something of a cross between Mr. Toad and the ancient Midget Autopia, which is to say a silly ride (primarily) for kids, though anyone can ride them, kids or no. The ride is called Goofy's Goof-Karts. The design and name for the cars is based on this old Goofy comic I found a few years ago:
1201-1.jpg


The idea is that Goofy has invented a new kind of riding mower to try and take care of his vast yard. He has apparently tested it before (only once before) and he wants someone else to test it as well before it is deemed safe. But when you board, in a covered shed near the house, in typical Goofy fashion, the Goof-Karts go out of control, over the yard and through part of the house (where a Goofy-shaped hole is left in the wall as you go through), where the queue begins. At one point, you also go through his garage, where, similar to the Roger Rabbit ride, there are Disney-themed license plates hanging on the wall. Gophers and crows are seen hiding as your kart races by, save for one crow who, is of course perched on a Goofy scarecrow. At the end, Goofy is heard admitting that his Goof-Kart needs the bugs worked out he or anyone else can use them again. Run time lasts about a minute and a half.

Of course, all of this will mean that the kiddie area around Goofy's Playhouse is no more, but no worries, as the neighboring Toon Park will become an expanded version of Goofy's residence called Goofy's KinderGarden.

Anyway, those are the sets of things I would do with Mickey's Toontown if the Runaway Railway does not pan out. We'll probably hear something about this at the upcoming D23. By then, Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge should be opened and the Marvel area at DCA will be underway.

So what do you all think of my ideas for Toontown so far? I would really like some feedback so it doesn't seem like I'm just posting to myself here (and not just a few likes, which are helpful, but only so much). Thanks.
 

spacemt354

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The second of the two new rides is where Goofy's Playhouse is right now. Set therein is something of a cross between Mr. Toad and the ancient Midget Autopia, which is to say a silly ride (primarily) for kids, though anyone can ride them, kids or no. The ride is called Goofy's Goof-Karts. The design and name for the cars is based on this old Goofy comic I found a few years ago:
1201-1.jpg


The idea is that Goofy has invented a new kind of riding mower to try and take care of his vast yard. He has apparently tested it before (only once before) and he wants someone else to test it as well before it is deemed safe. But when you board, in a covered shed near the house, in typical Goofy fashion, the Goof-Karts go out of control, over the yard and through part of the house (where a Goofy-shaped hole is left in the wall as you go through), where the queue begins. At one point, you also go through his garage, where, similar to the Roger Rabbit ride, there are Disney-themed license plates hanging on the wall. Gophers and crows are seen hiding as your kart races by, save for one crow who, is of course perched on a Goofy scarecrow. At the end, Goofy is heard admitting that his Goof-Kart needs the bugs worked out he or anyone else can use them again. Run time lasts about a minute and a half.

Of course, all of this will mean that the kiddie area around Goofy's Playhouse is no more, but no worries, as the neighboring Toon Park will become an expanded version of Goofy's residence called Goofy's KinderGarden.

Anyway, those are the sets of things I would do with Mickey's Toontown if the Runaway Railway does not pan out. We'll probably hear something about this at the upcoming D23. By then, Star Wars: Galaxy's Edge should be opened and the Marvel area at DCA will be underway.

So what do you all think of my ideas for Toontown so far? I would really like some feedback so it doesn't seem like I'm just posting to myself here (and not just a few likes, which are helpful, but only so much). Thanks.
Overall, I think these are some very solid ideas for Toontown
 

mharrington

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I'd try muted as it's a bit different from before and it'll make it unique

This isn't really about uniqueness per se, it's more about seeing what can better withstand the California sun and not crack and peel so easily. I wouldn't have brought this up, except that on MiceChat, Dateline Disneyland just loves to complain about the faded or chipped paint there, as well as the not-entirely-perfect upkeep of the area overall.
 

Pi on my Cake

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This isn't really about uniqueness per se, it's more about seeing what can better withstand the California sun and not crack and peel so easily. I wouldn't have brought this up, except that on MiceChat, Dateline Disneyland just loves to complain about the faded or chipped paint there, as well as the not-entirely-perfect upkeep of the area overall.
Muted colors is a great idea for lands in the hot sun. That's one of my biggest concerns with Toy Story Land in WDW. It is so bright and vibrant now, but just wait 3 years and then we'll see. Or look at the Casey Jr. Play Area in Storybook Circus in the day time. Bright colors fade fast sadly.
 

mharrington

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Muted colors is a great idea for lands in the hot sun. That's one of my biggest concerns with Toy Story Land in WDW. It is so bright and vibrant now, but just wait 3 years and then we'll see. Or look at the Casey Jr. Play Area in Storybook Circus in the day time. Bright colors fade fast sadly.

I could be mistaken, but I don't think bright colors will fade nearly as fast in Florida, if only because of the frequent storms they have, which would block out the sun. California is less prone to storms and it's much sunnier there.
 

Pi on my Cake

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I could be mistaken, but I don't think bright colors will fade nearly as fast in Florida, if only because of the frequent storms they have, which would block out the sun. California is less prone to storms and it's much sunnier there.
Can't say whether or not it is as fast as California, but colors definitely fade pretty fast here in Florida haha
 

spacemt354

Chili's
I could be mistaken, but I don't think bright colors will fade nearly as fast in Florida, if only because of the frequent storms they have, which would block out the sun. California is less prone to storms and it's much sunnier there.
It has to do with the ultraviolet light. The sun is much stronger in Florida which = a higher UV index on average. Bright reds and blues are common colors that can fade overtime with exposure to UV.

That's not to say Anaheim also doesn't have high UV - just today it was 9.2 in Anaheim compared to 9.7 in Orlando.
 

mharrington

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It has to do with the ultraviolet light. The sun is much stronger in Florida which = a higher UV index on average. Bright reds and blues are common colors that can fade overtime with exposure to UV.

That's not to say Anaheim also doesn't have high UV - just today it was 9.2 in Anaheim compared to 9.7 in Orlando.

To be fair, I probably would not have brought up the paint issue if it were not for MiceChat's updates on the park, which is constantly pointing out every single issue happening there lately.
 

mharrington

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If the rumors are true, and the Runaway Railway does get built in Toontown completely intact (as rumors seem to indicate), then it will more than likely take over a lot of space inside the current land, as well as require some of that northernmost end that is causing so many headaches with the city of Anaheim for whatever reason.

What will happen, your guess is as good as mine, but this will likely take over some of the space I thought of for the new kiddie coaster. I think it would be awkward for them not to have a kiddie coaster in Disneyland, while all the other Disney castle parks do. I also think it would be awkward for Donald and Goofy not to be represented here if it did take over. And whatever happens in this Toontown should happen in Tokyo's Toontown as well, since they are a near replica of Anaheim's.

This new alternate idea of mine is a new kiddie coaster themed around Donald and Goofy, who are apparently bunking together in a new house. I am not very creative here, but it will be based around these two, and there won't be a lot of space to work with, so it will be pretty small. The only thing I can think of is that in order to pay the rent, they've set up a makeshift car wash service, where your roller coaster cars look like real cars, going through the washing and drying process. However, between Donald's hot temper and Goofy's ineptitude, something is bound to go wrong.

I guess it's a simplified version of that elaborate car wash from that one episode of "Phineas and Ferb", plus the actual Quick Quack Car Washes in town, coupled with elements of this old attraction from Chessington World of Adventures (a park in England) called Bubbleworks.

What do you think of it? It's not one of my best works. If you don't like it, can you think of another idea for this? And if you did like it, what would be a good name for this coaster?
 

Pi on my Cake

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If the rumors are true, and the Runaway Railway does get built in Toontown completely intact (as rumors seem to indicate), then it will more than likely take over a lot of space inside the current land, as well as require some of that northernmost end that is causing so many headaches with the city of Anaheim for whatever reason.

What will happen, your guess is as good as mine, but this will likely take over some of the space I thought of for the new kiddie coaster. I think it would be awkward for them not to have a kiddie coaster in Disneyland, while all the other Disney castle parks do. I also think it would be awkward for Donald and Goofy not to be represented here if it did take over. And whatever happens in this Toontown should happen in Tokyo's Toontown as well, since they are a near replica of Anaheim's.

This new alternate idea of mine is a new kiddie coaster themed around Donald and Goofy, who are apparently bunking together in a new house. I am not very creative here, but it will be based around these two, and there won't be a lot of space to work with, so it will be pretty small. The only thing I can think of is that in order to pay the rent, they've set up a makeshift car wash service, where your roller coaster cars look like real cars, going through the washing and drying process. However, between Donald's hot temper and Goofy's ineptitude, something is bound to go wrong.

I guess it's a simplified version of that elaborate car wash from that one episode of "Phineas and Ferb", plus the actual Quick Quack Car Washes in town, coupled with elements of this old attraction from Chessington World of Adventures (a park in England) called Bubbleworks.

What do you think of it? It's not one of my best works. If you don't like it, can you think of another idea for this? And if you did like it, what would be a good name for this coaster?
I like this idea!

My understanding is that Runaway Railway is gonna be taking over a lot of the residential area of Toon Town. So, Goofy and donald having an apartment in the city makes sense. Car Wash leads to some interesting and fun visuals for the ride. Use the compact space of the land to thematically tie to how cities often build things in a compact manner. Have the coaster be more focused on vertical than horizontal movement so it takes up less space. Lots of bubbles. I like it!

Can't think of a good name though
 

mharrington

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I like this idea!

My understanding is that Runaway Railway is gonna be taking over a lot of the residential area of Toon Town. So, Goofy and donald having an apartment in the city makes sense. Car Wash leads to some interesting and fun visuals for the ride. Use the compact space of the land to thematically tie to how cities often build things in a compact manner. Have the coaster be more focused on vertical than horizontal movement so it takes up less space. Lots of bubbles. I like it!

Can't think of a good name though

Well, we really don't know what's going to happen with the ride. The current thing is, or so I read, that it will likely go north of the land, so it's anyone's guess if it will take over anything, even though I hope not.

Also, the residence wouldn't be an apartment per se. Finally, I don't know if a vertical kiddie coaster is a good idea.

In any case, I hope that a kiddie coaster will remain somehow.
 

mharrington

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Here's a little more information on the current status of the rumored Runaway Railway ride coming to Disneyland (from this post here: https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/world-of-color-refurbishment.937950/page-2#post-8253601):

The first project [after the Star Wars land] is an expansion of Mickey's Toontown, to add the Mickey & Minnie Runaway Railway ride to Disneyland. There are two buildings directly north of Toontown that would be demolished to achieve this, both used by the entertainment department to house offices, rehearsal halls, CM uniform issuing, and locker rooms. Those functions in those buildings would be moved off-site and/or into a new basement level, while the Mickey & Minnie railway ride would sit in a new ride warehouse directly north of Toontown. Toontown would be redone with a new aesthetic that matches the ride aesthetic and the entry to the new Runaway Railway thing. That project is still ready to go, once the political climate changes in Anaheim and Disneyland feels more confident about the future.

So here's hoping that this is indeed the direction they go with this, if for no other reason than to see that the actual Toontown is no more impacted than necessary.
 

mharrington

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Instead of doing the thread over again and trotting out the same old information over and over again, which gets really tiring, I'm just going to bump this up...

Now that we know that Runaway Railway is coming to Mickey's Toontown, taking over the space for the Gag Factory (which is a shame as I do like that place), I thought of maybe doing parts of Toontown over to improve it, since the space seems to mean that the attractions themselves are relatively safe (maybe). And let's be honest, the newer Mickey cartoons do kind of have a Roger Rabbit vibe to them.

In my plans, as I said before, the area along the southern and western ends of Toontown will be reused, taking out Chip 'n' Dale's Treehouse, Gadget's Go Coaster, Donald's Boat, Goofy's Playhouse and Toon Park. I have already mentioned that the new space will be home to a new kiddie coaster to replace Gadget, themed to Donald (Donald's Air Academy), which is relatively straightforward, and the Goofy space will be home to Goofy's Goof-Karts. I described this one briefly, but next time, I will go into a little more detail, which will hopefully expand on a little detail I like at Roger Rabbit (those license plates).

I just hope that they get a new shop in Toontown somewhere. Maybe not a big one, but maybe the size of the Five and Dime, which connects to the Gag Factory. I guess I'll save that for when more details on the Runaway Railway come in.

I don't know if this is still on the table (probably not, given what's going on at Walt Disney Studios Paris), but there was a rumor about adding a small Toontown-like area to Disneyland Paris and adding the Runaway Railway for that. If that's the case, I would like to add the two rides, Donald's Air Academy (L'école du Ciel de Donald) and Goofy's Goof-Karts (Les Dingomobiles de Dingo), into it and call the place "Mickeyville". And since space is at a premium, we could combine Mickey and Minnie's meet-n-greets into one there.

I will have a little more detail on Goofy's Goof-Karts in particular later.
 

Keyblade Jedi

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We Could have a Skyway Style Attraction Back. With Connecting ToonTown and Galaxy's Edge and Call It Galaxy Balloons. (It's Like Originally Discovery Bay where Galaxy's Edge is Today and the proposed Dumbo's Circus expansion for Fantasyland like Where ToonTown is Today)
 

mharrington

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We Could have a Skyway Style Attraction Back. With Connecting ToonTown and Galaxy's Edge and Call It Galaxy Balloons. (It's Like Originally Discovery Bay where Galaxy's Edge is Today and the proposed Dumbo's Circus expansion for Fantasyland like Where ToonTown is Today)

I don't think that's ever going to happen.

Anyway, the queue for Goofy's Goof-Karts wends through his house, which is redesigned with this ride in mind. However, like Goofy's Playhouse before it, there are some play elements, as in this video:


One play element will be that piano (still set to "Silly Scales in G"). You then enter a small garage, where Goofy has been working on his Goof-Karts. Here, similar to the Roger Rabbit ride, Disney-themed license plates hang on the walls, including (take a guess as to what they mean):

  • 1E D PU
  • MAD HAT R
  • NEVRLND
  • ANA N LSA
  • RSQRS
  • 0 2 HRO
  • EXP 626
  • BAYMAX

Goofy wants someone else to test it as well before it is deemed safe (this is part of the obligatory bilingual safety spiel). The ride itself, as I said, is a cross between Midget Autopia (though anyone can ride) and Mr. Toad, in terms of crazy. The time length, as I said, is a minute and a half, half the length of Kings Island's Kings Mills Antique Autos.

As you leave, the Goof-Karts run over a gopher hole, which causes the karts to go haywire and run all over the yard and through part of the house (where a Goofy-shaped hole is left in the wall as you go through). Gophers and crows are seen hiding as your kart races by, save for one crow who, is of course perched on a Goofy scarecrow. At the end, Goofy is heard admitting that his Goof-Kart needs the bugs worked out he or anyone else can use them again. Run time lasts about a minute and a half.

I apologize for repeating a lot of what I had said (which I did), but I really wanted to reference those license plates.
 

Keyblade Jedi

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I don't think that's ever going to happen.

Anyway, the queue for Goofy's Goof-Karts wends through his house, which is redesigned with this ride in mind. However, like Goofy's Playhouse before it, there are some play elements, as in this video:


One play element will be that piano (still set to "Silly Scales in G"). You then enter a small garage, where Goofy has been working on his Goof-Karts. Here, similar to the Roger Rabbit ride, Disney-themed license plates hang on the walls, including (take a guess as to what they mean):

  • 1E D PU
  • MAD HAT R
  • NEVRLND
  • ANA N LSA
  • RSQRS
  • 0 2 HRO
  • EXP 626
  • BAYMAX
Goofy wants someone else to test it as well before it is deemed safe (this is part of the obligatory bilingual safety spiel). The ride itself, as I said, is a cross between Midget Autopia (though anyone can ride) and Mr. Toad, in terms of crazy. The time length, as I said, is a minute and a half, half the length of Kings Island's Kings Mills Antique Autos.

As you leave, the Goof-Karts run over a gopher hole, which causes the karts to go haywire and run all over the yard and through part of the house (where a Goofy-shaped hole is left in the wall as you go through). Gophers and crows are seen hiding as your kart races by, save for one crow who, is of course perched on a Goofy scarecrow. At the end, Goofy is heard admitting that his Goof-Kart needs the bugs worked out he or anyone else can use them again. Run time lasts about a minute and a half.

I apologize for repeating a lot of what I had said (which I did), but I really wanted to reference those license plates.


No Need. I Love the Repeats.
 

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