Andrew C
You know what's funny?
eh, I would rather spend an entire day in AK or Epcot, than a day just at DL's fantasyland. DHS is the outlier.
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Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios
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eh, I would rather spend an entire day in AK or Epcot, than a day just at DL's fantasyland. DHS is the outlier.
lazyboy97o
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Consolidating the buildings would have created more openness.
The Empress Lilly
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Which concrete canyons?
I find the MK embracing. Neither canyons nor concrete anywhere. Well maybe the area between Mermaid and Dwarf? Yes, certainly. NFL is too closed there, and too open in the stroller parking lot. But apart from later MK alterations - oftentimes the work of clowns and midgets - which areas feel claustrophobic?
DinoInstitute
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There's a difference between open unused space and a feeling of openness in the land.
Adventureland around the magic carpets, the area around Peter Pan, and the northwest part of Frontierland with BTMM/SM, to name a few areas that have always felt claustrophobic to me.
DinoInstitute
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Honestly not even sure what more they could do, it's already full of Toy Story merchandise.
lazyboy97o
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Yes, but it is not always the direct relationship your comment suggests. The organization of Toy Story Land seems to create openness through objects in space, so it is actually using open unused land to create that sense of openness. Objects in space design is not typically conducive to themed design as it is all about a highly controlled experience. A dedicated open space can also be designed so as to create an edge and function as a space making object while also providing the benefit of being available for future use.
matt9112
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when are the lines shorter at the MK I will wait... and let's not kid ourselves besides pandora the other three parks can be done fast fast free in a day.
RSoxNo1
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Did Woody's lunchbox utilize the existing kitchen for Studio Catering Co. that was there? That could be why it's in the spot that it's in.
Edit: Nevermind, doesn't look like it.
The person I was replying to wanted to consolidate buildings to put up more buildings. That's not more openness.
If you think NFL is too closed, then what do you think about the old FL avenue which was pretty much left intact? No green spaces. Buildings side by side with no gaps on either side and always crowded because it's a chokepoint. The new NFL is much more open, but... they used that openness for castle archways (the 'concrete') without more green space.
Of course, the 'concrete' is metaphorical, not all the frontispieces are concrete, but Main Street and the SGE pathway and Old FL are just canyons with all the spatial charm of a busy NYC street.
Diagon Alley is also a canyon because they're re-creating a city alley. The castle park with the 'blessing of size' didn't need to do the same. And the NFL should have fixed issues with the old FL, not ignore them.
#NotAPixieDuster
lazyboy97o
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No, @MKeeler said it would make the space available for a "small-form attraction" and then used a carousel as an example. Even then, buildings can still be designed so as to create a sense of openness without just resorting to objects in space.
Incomudro
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I didn't say that the lines were shorter, and shorter compared to what?
My last trip?
Before Magic Bands?
Some other point in time?
Anyway... On our most recent trip (May2016) we had a fastpass for two MK rides.
Don't remember which ones specifically, but likely Splash and Big Thunder or Splash and Space.
With those times set, we checked out things in between that we would normally skip - Philharmagic, Tiki Birds.
Astro_Digital
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Is it just me but I always thought the giant Toy Story Characters are creepy.
What would be cool is if they could create and illusion that the Toys are living.
What would be cool is if they could create and illusion that the Toys are living.
PizzaPlanet
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Prerecorded dialogue coming from the static figures on repeat should do the trick.
MKeeler
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Yes. it's also why I feel it is a shame that Slinky Dog was used on the roller-coaster as opposed to another toy (race cars, a toy train, etc.). The roller-coaster presumably will not have a stretch and squash feature that would make sense for a slinky, so it is just a choice for a recognizable character on the tracks, as opposed to a thematic choice. The Slinky Dog Zigzag spin from Paris/Hong Kong provides the kind of small-form flat ride you could slot in that space to greater utilize the space while still maintaining an open feel. You would be able to see clear from the Lunchbox over the Zigzag spin attraction to the Alien Swirling Saucers, with the appropriate landscaping and design that would accompany it. You would get the kinetics of the attraction and the pathways all around it. To me, I see greater potential in an approach like that, than the current setup, which seems so limiting.
Jones14
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While I see what you mean in principle, I think the visual of Slinky on a coaster track is far more appealing than the Zigzag Spin approach, which is one of the ugliest rides in a Disney park ever. Besides, Zigzag Spin approaches the "stretching" in the exact same way as Slinky Dog Dash does, so it's not like one of them is getting it more "right" than the other.
I'd sooner have the Critter Carousel come as an eventual replacement for those beige buildings to the right of the land's entrance.
matt9112
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diagon ally is the perfect blend IMHO the gold standard not from a theme point of view but feeling so open yet so packed. its wierd but the place feels huge like walking around a modern city yet its obviously full of narrow nooks etc.
Marc Davis Fan
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Footage of Shanghai’s TSL:
This doesn’t tell us that much, as it’s similar to the two existing ones rather than DHS’s version, but I think the Woody’s Roundup footage can give us a broad idea of how a toy-themed Mater ride system comes across - and it does in fact seem to work better than the Cars theme (I think because the toy theme fits the simplicity of the ride system better).
Also, I love that the video refers to it as “the 7th theme park of Shanghai Disneyland.” Things must be going well out there
This doesn’t tell us that much, as it’s similar to the two existing ones rather than DHS’s version, but I think the Woody’s Roundup footage can give us a broad idea of how a toy-themed Mater ride system comes across - and it does in fact seem to work better than the Cars theme (I think because the toy theme fits the simplicity of the ride system better).
Also, I love that the video refers to it as “the 7th theme park of Shanghai Disneyland.” Things must be going well out there
space42
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Footage of Shanghai’s TSL:
This doesn’t tell us that much, as it’s similar to the two existing ones rather than DHS’s version, but I think the Woody’s Roundup footage can give us a broad idea of how a toy-themed Mater ride system comes across - and it does in fact seem to work better than the Cars theme (I think because the toy theme fits the simplicity of the ride system better).
Also, I love that the video refers to it as “the 7th theme park of Shanghai Disneyland.” Things must be going well out there
Wow - looks like one of those cheap knock off Disney parks.
ChristianG
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Shanghai's TSL looks very bare and empty right now. It needs fuller vegetation to mask the many Tinker Toy lights that only exaggerate the emptiness of the land by making the skyline look very busy. Hopefully it wont feel the same at DHS.
