Tokyo Disneyland Coaster Derails

[niteobsrvr]

Originally posted by objr
Cost cutting, layoffs, micro-managing all lead to morale and company loyalty problems...things that can possibly be linked to some of these accidents.

Not a way to make fans, but then again, Eisner only cares for the cash not the fans.

:lookaroun

The only problem with this train of thought is that Disney is not wholely responsible for Disneyland Tokyo. The park is owned and operated by a Japanese company who effectively has a licensing agreement with the Disney Co. Disney provides research and development work but little in the way of day to day operations management.

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by niteobsrvr
The only problem with this train of thought is that Disney is not wholely responsible for Disneyland Tokyo. The park is owned and operated by a Japanese company who effectively has a licensing agreement with the Disney Co. Disney provides research and development work but little in the way of day to day operations management.

I was not only reffering to DL Tokyo (which holds the Disney name)...but other accidents especially the BTMRR accident in DL Cali.....

 

[Lee]

It's just a freak accident, the likes of which are bound to happen from time to time.
Apparently part of the wheel assembly on the rear bogie just came loose. The rocket didn't leave the track. All safety features acted properly.

On with the show.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

Originally posted by Lee
It's just a freak accident, the likes of which are bound to happen from time to time.
Apparently part of the wheel assembly on the rear bogie just came loose. The rocket didn't leave the track. All safety features acted properly.

On with the show.

Nice to know all safety back-ups are working properly!

** Feeling safer now **

 

[WDWspider]

Originally posted by DisneyFan 2000
Nice to know all safety back-ups are working properly!

** Feeling safer now **

Well, the good news is that nothing is happening at Disneyland Paris... absolutely nothing.... :lookaroun :lol:

Maybe that's not a good thing.

Still, I honest and truly do find it odd that all of these incidents have happened in such a short time frame from one another, it does seem to imply cutbacks as a factor, but maybe it's a Worldwide Disney fluke.

It could be too, that in our net style of living we find out a lot more than we ever knew about Disney accidents in the past (prior to net forums and circles). Something to think about.

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

Originally posted by WDWspider
it does seem to imply cutbacks as a factor, but maybe it's a Worldwide Disney fluke.

The tokyo resort doesn't know what cut-back means! :lol: :lol:

 

[WDWspider]

Originally posted by DisneyFan 2000
The tokyo resort doesn't know what cut-back means! :lol: :lol:

Well, now you just derailed my logic. :hammer:

 

[DisneyFan 2000]

Originally posted by WDWspider
Well, now you just derailed my logic. :hammer:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[goofyfordisney]

At least no one got hurt!

 

[lebernadin]

Originally posted by niteobsrvr
The only problem with this train of thought is that Disney is not wholely responsible for Disneyland Tokyo. The park is owned and operated by a Japanese company who effectively has a licensing agreement with the Disney Co. Disney provides research and development work but little in the way of day to day operations management.

You're right. But Disney outsources many of the more expensive(ie strong union-orientated) job descrips in their stateside parks, stores, musicals etc....as many Fortune 50's do.

What separates good managers from bad are those that know how to do this with tact and still maintain a high worh ethic by picking quality partners to fill these cost-effective roles.

When tragedies such as Big Thunder Mtn in Disneyland hit the news it only worsens the relationship between Disney employee and management because its akin to having a "family secret" that you stress about in private being broadcast to the entire world. Its not only embarrassing to management, but employee as well.

 

[General Grizz]

Space Mountain derailed in Disneyland about 3 years ago. . ~8 people injured.

 

[niteobsrvr]

Originally posted by lebernadin
You're right. But Disney outsources many of the more expensive(ie strong union-orientated) job descrips in their stateside parks, stores, musicals etc....as many Fortune 50's do.

Yep, outsourcing has been going on for quite some time now in the corporate world on one scale or another. One of the reasons for this is the price sensitivity of the typical U.S. worker. Of course ,the issue is much more complicated than what a discussion here could cover. The point is that if Disney and other companies didn't look for alternatives but instead continued to pay higher and higher labor rates, imagine what the price of their product would be. $52 dollars for admission would seem like a serious discount.

What separates good managers from bad are those that know how to do this with tact and still maintain a high worh ethic by picking quality partners to fill these cost-effective roles.

So true, and to continue on, these managers also need to provide for accountability and quality assurance. The unfortunate side of this is that this necessary course of action and follow-up only oocasionally happens at any company. In fact, the manager who used to supervise his own staff often becomes the outsourcing manager and because he is "less busy" than before often gets more responsibility placed upon him for things someone else handled in the past.

 

[GServo84]

I've noticed that once an accident occurs people automatically blame the company for bad maintenance. Aside from BTM in Disneyland (Pressler's Fault), you can't stop accidents from happening all the time. It's not always the company's fault. These things happen. It's sad that they do, but look at the record. Space mountain in Tokyo Disneyland moves around 1800 bodies an hour. Approxamately 300 cars per hour making them use 3000 cars per day minimum. Now, this is 365 days a year. In the past 10 years I haven't heard of one accident. So this means, counting the past ten years, there is about a one in 8 million chance of getting hurt on a ride. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning (1 in 500,000). I don't know why so many people worry about getting on Roller Coasters.