Tinks new flight rigging coming to WDW rumor

WDWparadetech1

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I heard some Wishes techs talking about Tink new flight rigging at DL. They said that they heard taht it was coming to WDW.

I know this cant be true. Or can it?
 

Chape19714

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I would be extremely suprised if this did happen. The problem is that the rigging has to be behind the castle, not on it. DL has the matterhorn and a land platform, we would have to build both a launch and land platform, and there's not much room for that. The Lighting Design requires that tink be above fantasyland and the cables can't cross the launch path of the already existing launch sites on the Fantasyland roofs, leaving tink very close to the back of the castle. It would be a marvel if it did happen, but I highly doubt it will. If the cable were in front of the castle, the lighting on the castle would make all of the rigging visible. I wish it could happen, but highly doubt it.
 

Jerm

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BRER STITCH said:
Oh ye of little faith......

:zipit:

I SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO don't like that answer. If it does make it over to that side of the earth it will really kill some of the magic. The nice thing about Tinks rig here is you can't really see it that well. It flying out of the castle right over the TL bridge will be in view of everyone. It has about 5 or 6 cables plus the HUGE rig that rides up and down "helping" Tink fly. I am sure that it would be great thing for the next fireworks show .....oh did I say that:lookaroun but that is a step slide.

J
 

SpaceMountainUK

Active Member
I dont know how possible this is but could they build a tower outside the RR tracks by Space Mountain, and a tower say over the other side of the park. these towers could extend (much like the lighting in DL's Fantasmic) when they are needed.....Tink could then fly from over by SM past the castle and back and forth as needed. she wouldnt need to fly the entire length of the cable the entire time, they could just kill the lights on her when shes not part of the show.

Im sure though with the amount of cable needed it would probably be more expensive than creating a new fireworks show altogther!!! LOL
 

disnyfan89

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As much as I would love to see this happen it most likely wont! There is no place for the rigging unless they built well... A mountain!
 

raven

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Recent fly rigging from companies like Foy and ZFX use very thin 800lbs-proff black aircraft cable that easily blends itself into the background if the subject is lit from the front or back. I have flown people in several stage productions and also used the cable to scenery for special effects. No one in our audiences were able to see the cable from a viewing point of 30 foot. The support cable for the MK above the actual fly wire could be higher than it is now so that lighting wouldn't be a problem. The only problem is still the launch pad location and how to hide it. But that's what WDI is for. :wave:
 

Chape19714

Well-Known Member
SpaceMountainUK said:
I dont know how possible this is but could they build a tower outside the RR tracks by Space Mountain, and a tower say over the other side of the park. these towers could extend (much like the lighting in DL's Fantasmic) when they are needed.....Tink could then fly from over by SM past the castle and back and forth as needed. she wouldnt need to fly the entire length of the cable the entire time, they could just kill the lights on her when shes not part of the show.

Im sure though with the amount of cable needed it would probably be more expensive than creating a new fireworks show altogther!!! LOL
the towers couldn't extend or retrack becaue then the cables would be on the pavement and buildings across the park. The Path you described is 2,532 feet long, much to long. DL's effect is aprox. 647 feet. The closest path I can find would be from the top of Space to Tom Sawyer's Island, but that's still 1,990 feet, entirely too long. I'm not saying it can't be done, but the numbers are against it, considering DL's lenth.

*all numbers based on launch platform to landing site and are approx. figures.

Raven-I 100% understand that, but the new effect also requires a huge box-like structure directly over tink to accomplish the vertical movement. The box moves down the cable, so there are several more components. It's like trying to use cable-cam at sports games but only making the camera visible...pretty tricky.
 

disnyfan89

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Ok so I think if they where to build a launch pad they could build one on Astro and next to the castle. Still very far away mind you but not as bad as Space Mountain to Tom Sawyer. The rigging I dont think is that big of a deal. When I went to Disneyland last summer it was very clear of all the componets being used. Much more noticable than a single wire!
 

MMP

New Member
I think it would be a big waste of time and money to change Tink's flight. People are impressed with the current one, there's no need for change.
 

disnyfan89

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MMP said:
I think it would be a big waste of time and money to change Tink's flight. People are impressed with the current one, there's no need for change.
Ya but people are floored by the new rig! It would be well worth the money.
 

Legacy

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disnyfan89 said:
Ya but people are floored by the new rig! It would be well worth the money.
No it wouldn't, because it's for a different audience. Disneyland caters more towards the California locals, who go to Disney quite often in comparison to the many once in a lifetime tourist that travel to WDW. About 60-70% of WDW Guests will probably never visit the recent more than one or two more times. Eighty percent of Disneyland's guest go every other weekend.

Why reinvite the wheel?
 

raven

Well-Known Member
Legacy said:
Why reinvent the wheel?

Because you said it for youself below:

Legacy said:
Disneyland caters more towards the California locals, who go to Disney quite often in comparison to the many once in a lifetime tourist that travel to WDW.

If people are making a once in a lifetime trip to WDW, why not go that extra step to make it even more magical? :wave:
 

Legacy

Well-Known Member
raven said:
Because you said it for youself below:



If people are making a once in a lifetime trip to WDW, why not go that extra step to make it even more magical? :wave:
Because in the grand scheme of things how much profit will WDW get from spending a few hundred thousands of dollars for a new launch and landing platform for Tink, when the tourist are going to be coming whether its on a fancy flying rig (which the average guest probably won't really care all that much about) or a zip-line (which is still plenty magical in my personal opinion). Would it be worth another ticket-hike? Would you rather see another E-Ticket? About some more attractions in Animal Kingdom?

I think it would be a waste of money in the grand scheme of things, whereas in Cali a fancy new flying system will actually be just cause for a lot locals to go back. Orlando is a different attitude.

And I'm not saying this to be a jerk, I'm just looking at it from the logical, financial side of it.
 

Jheyman

Member
Can someone describe how the DL rig is set and what the overall effect is? Sorry, east coaster here who has never made it out to DL. Thanks!
 

freediverdude

Well-Known Member
Really? That big a percentage are Disneyland locals who go all the time? I'm surprised it's that big a percentage. That must be a very different culture in that park then. Anyway, a new type of Tink flight would be nice, but the current one still works too.
 

Legacy

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freediverdude said:
Really? That big a percentage are Disneyland locals who go all the time? I'm surprised it's that big a percentage. That must be a very different culture in that park then. Anyway, a new type of Tink flight would be nice, but the current one still works too.
If I remember correctly that is the rough percentage I heard. Let me do some browsing and see if I can find the link.
 

disnyfan89

Well-Known Member
Legacy said:
Because in the grand scheme of things how much profit will WDW get from spending a few hundred thousands of dollars for a new launch and landing platform for Tink, when the tourist are going to be coming whether its on a fancy flying rig (which the average guest probably won't really care all that much about) or a zip-line (which is still plenty magical in my personal opinion). Would it be worth another ticket-hike? Would you rather see another E-Ticket? About some more attractions in Animal Kingdom?

I think it would be a waste of money in the grand scheme of things, whereas in Cali a fancy new flying system will actually be just cause for a lot locals to go back. Orlando is a different attitude.

And I'm not saying this to be a jerk, I'm just looking at it from the logical, financial side of it.
How much did it cost to build the rig in Disneyland? I would imagine that if we could build one for as much money as Disneyland's it would be well worth the money. And to say it would not draw attention I think is a lie. One of the things I was most excited about seeing when I went to Disneyland was the new rig for tink. There are more than enough locals that they can market this to in Florida. While a good percentage of WDW is tourist we still have a large local audience that visits the Magic Kingdom several times a year!
 

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