Agree mostly. What I have an issue with is interjecting oneself into the conversation, taking issue with a strong opinion backed up with detailed points and solid reasoning when all you have basically said is “I like it” or “it’s fine.” Take that stuff to Reddit or mind your own business. Also if I feel that someone is not speaking in good faith or is constantly giving Disney a pass then I personally will write off your opinion. Lastly some things aren’t an opinion at all. The fact that Ray is singing on a ride where he is dead makes no sense is not an opinion. It’s a fact. There is no rebuttal. If one does not understand that then there is no point of continuing a conversation on that topic.
It’s annoying because they created these self imposed constraints, didn’t include Ray on a ride that was already going to be missing a fan favorite character and then realized they needed to include the popular song from the movie that Ray sings. So they just said Oh well . At least Tiana’s hair is authentic.
Depending on the combinations you get, you might actually get a ride with Rey AND Darth Vader!
I'm just waiting patiently for the PatF sequel that's about three firefly ghost triplets named Ray, Trey, and Jay. I here it's a comedy of miniature proportions.
But can they PLAAAYYYYY? Hallelujah!
If your theming undermines your track layout (or vice versa), then clearly you’ve done something wrong. It might not be enough to turn some people off, but it’s objectively a mistake. It’s definitely necessary to get these things right if you are taking an existing ride and attempting to “improve it”.Did I say anywhere where theming wasn't required or even wanted? All I said was that the huge lift hill itself brings tension on its own. That doesn't mean the rest of the rides theming isn't required or wanted. Its not an all or nothing situation in my opinion.
I see your point, and appreciate your response. I just disagree that its a "mistake". It may not be what you would have done, or someone else, but I don't see its an issue with how it was done. I just don't see that tension is needed for the lift hill. Now if they decide to make changes in the future, such as for a Halloween overlay, as has been suggested by other posters here, I wouldn't be opposed to it.If your theming undermines your track layout (or vice versa), then clearly you’ve done something wrong. It might not be enough to turn some people off, but it’s objectively a mistake. It’s definitely necessary to get these things right if you are taking an existing ride and attempting to “improve it”.
I see your point, and appreciate your response. I just disagree that its a "mistake". It may not be what you would have done, or someone else, but I don't see its an issue with how it was done. I just don't see that tension is needed for the lift hill. Now if they decide to make changes in the future, such as for a Halloween overlay, as has been suggested by other posters here, I wouldn't be opposed to it.
I appreciate that you are being cordial. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.I see your point, and appreciate your response. I just disagree that its a "mistake". It may not be what you would have done, or someone else, but I don't see its an issue with how it was done. I just don't see that tension is needed for the lift hill. Now if they decide to make changes in the future, such as for a Halloween overlay, as has been suggested by other posters here, I wouldn't be opposed to it.
How about no Cube. But I'll be happy that you'll get something positive out of this project if it happens.Lol @ other users. That would be one user. Me. And I made that prediction a few years ago. And when it happens you better “bow down when I come to your town” as Ice Cube once said.
Well having met him I can say Too Short wouldn't bow to Snoop either. But yes back to discussing Tiana.
TRUE! I remember someone called him the shadow man and he said "MY NAME IS DR? FACILLIER!" it was great. This was near the ROA in front of Pirates. The weird thing is that they sing "dig a little Deeper" and you're going up...so its not deeper. It makes NO SENSEIt's so weird that Dr. Facilier continues to appear in the parks as a face character but is nowhere to be seen on the Princess and the Frog ride.
THIS! They had an obligation to fill a void they left by removing what was possibly the greatest Disney ride ever made (IMO your mileage may vary) But to the very least it was a very good ride. Instead they hastily jammed a nonsense story with flashy lights and a couple of good animatronics here and there into a space not meant for them, and a layout meant to tell a story of impending danger. The very ride itself was designed with the B'rer story in mind, so they had to match the ups and downs of it too. It's like sampling a song but singing in a completely different key and melody, with lyrics that ignore any reasoning behind the sample.If your theming undermines your track layout (or vice versa), then clearly you’ve done something wrong. It might not be enough to turn some people off, but it’s objectively a mistake. It’s definitely necessary to get these things right if you are taking an existing ride and attempting to “improve it”.
It was uncontested that it was one of the best rides ever made before Disney officially pulled the plug on it. Whether or not it was THE best is certainly up to personal opinion (it is for me obviously).THIS! They had an obligation to fill a void they left by removing what was possibly the greatest Disney ride ever made (IMO your mileage may vary) But to the very least it was a very good ride. Instead they hastily jammed a nonsense story with flashy lights and a couple of good animatronics here and there into a space not meant for them, and a layout meant to tell a story of impending danger. The very ride itself was designed with the B'rer story in mind, so they had to match the ups and downs of it too. It's like sampling a song but singing in a completely different key and melody, with lyrics that ignore any reasoning behind the sample.
It's like if they replaced It's a small world with Moana's Boatride Adventure. and the song was just about Trusting your instincts or some vague concept. They may improve the animatronics.....but what's left? what do we have now? nothing really. But I guess in this version I'd expect them to put a villain in because there is no drop and they have to make a mistake by law of nature.It was uncontested that it was one of the best rides ever made before Disney officially pulled the plug on it. Whether or not it was THE best is certainly up to personal opinion (it is for me obviously).
It was also one of the most iconic attractions in their repertoire, and they through out this strong branding for something insanely forgetable. The connection between Splash Mountain and the other mountains, as well as the association of the attraction with Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah (and that song's connection to Walt and Disney history) was extremely valuable. There is nothing in "Tiana's Bayou Adventure" that even comes close to evoking that iconography. Had they changed everything but kept the name and that song in the end, this retheme would have been in good shape. It may have "defeated" the purpose of eliminating everything that tied back to SotS, but that was never a smart purpose to begin with.
Arguably my new favorite log flume. (excpting Tokyo Splash of course).At least we still have Knott's Timber Mountain Log Ride for the last sixty years.
It was also one of the most iconic attractions in their repertoire, and they through out this strong branding for something insanely forgetable. The connection between Splash Mountain and the other mountains, as well as the association of the attraction with Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah (and that song's connection to Walt and Disney history) was extremely valuable. There is nothing in "Tiana's Bayou Adventure" that even comes close to evoking that iconography. Had they changed everything but kept the name and that song in the end, this retheme would have been in good shape. It may have "defeated" the purpose of eliminating everything that tied back to SotS, but that was never a smart purpose to begin with.
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