At least the old lagoon was nice to look at. Very few people can actually utilize poohs play place.
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they bulldozed 20k for poohs place?
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peter11435
Well-Known Member
I have said this a million times. There is still a ton of land left at the 20K site and there is more development to come. Just give them time. The pooh area only takes up a very very small portion of the former site.
DisKid
Active Member
I agree... (I am getting sick of seeing all of this Pooh stuff all over)
And seriously...how many people go to the MAGIC KINGDOM to play on a playground!?!?!?!?! I don't care if the play ground is themed or not!!! (I am almost 100% certain)They have something very similar over by Splash Mountain....is that used to capacity so often that they need another themed playground??? That would be pretty shocking! Waste of money! Lack of creativity/management on Disney's end once again!
And seriously...how many people go to the MAGIC KINGDOM to play on a playground!?!?!?!?! I don't care if the play ground is themed or not!!! (I am almost 100% certain)They have something very similar over by Splash Mountain....is that used to capacity so often that they need another themed playground??? That would be pretty shocking! Waste of money! Lack of creativity/management on Disney's end once again!
Tigger1988
Well-Known Member
20k has been closed for YEARS...YEARS before the pooh playground was planned...its gone...get over it and stop blaming pooh for the ride's closing...it was empty space and now some of it is being put to use...
CTXRover
Well-Known Member
No offense, but I'm getting sick of these threads (I'm kicking myself for even replying :lol: ). I understand the hatred among many here to the idea of a playground in this particular area, but for the most part, all it did was replace a decaying load station for an attraction that had been closed for nearly 10 years which subsequently was simply used as a meet and greet. In reality, the play area replaced a meet and greet...people should be jumping for joy 
Personally, I think the more open walkways and vegetation berm are nicer than looking at the remnants of decaying attraction. The lagoon wasn't even that easy to see from many angles to add to the atmosphere of Fantasyland "that" much.
Its been said in every single thread that discussed this same topic, but they bulldozed the 20K attraction for "future development". Even if the play area becomes permanent, there is more than adequate room to build an E-ticket the size of Pirates back there. I don't have a crystal ball, but I have a strong feeling that all this "complaining" will be for nothing in a few years.
Personally, I think the more open walkways and vegetation berm are nicer than looking at the remnants of decaying attraction. The lagoon wasn't even that easy to see from many angles to add to the atmosphere of Fantasyland "that" much. Its been said in every single thread that discussed this same topic, but they bulldozed the 20K attraction for "future development". Even if the play area becomes permanent, there is more than adequate room to build an E-ticket the size of Pirates back there. I don't have a crystal ball, but I have a strong feeling that all this "complaining" will be for nothing in a few years.
disneylands
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POOHKILLEDTOAD said:
agreed:wave:
Hakunamatata
Le Meh
Glasgow said:
20k was not marketable either:
1. It was not pink.
2. It did not wear a crown.
3. It couldnt generate a half baked video every year.
4. It wasnt based on a degenerate character (yes Im talking Stitch...)
It was doomed from the beginning.
DisKid
Active Member
CTXRover said:
Hopefully, but why couldn't they have done some big ride right now and save the time and money? Take Disneyland for instance: they had the same ride just sitting there idle, and now, they're putting in a Nemo attraction...why didn't they just clone it to WDW right away? That would seem practical if they wanted to do something with the land anyway!
jrobinson424
New Member
LONG LIVE THE POOH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Connor002
Active Member
Tigger1988 said:
I agree, 20K wasn't coming back, so everyone needs to get over it. There are a ton of other threads where you can watch everyone bickering over this, so you might as well just go read one of them. The same info and opinions would end up being thrown back and forth on this thread as on all the others anyway. There is really no more to discuss here. I'm not trying to be mean, but I'm tired of hearing "Pooh Killed 20k" over and over and over and over again. 20k is gone in WDW, so maybe you should go over to disneyland and see it there, though you may have to put up wiht nemo.
CTXRover
Well-Known Member
DisKid said:
My guesses as to why they finally reclaimed that land, didn't reopen it with Nemo, or simply start construction on something new:
1. Reportedly, the subs for WDW's 20K ride had already been trashed/dismantled a while ago, unlike DL where their subs are still available. This made reopening WDW's sub ride much more costly and difficult.
2. Although nothing official yet, I imagine that some of the projection technology that will be used for DL's new sub ride can/will be incorporated into a potential new ride for The Living Seas at Epcot. That is still just rumor, but does seem more and more likely. I believe that some of the technology they are using for DL's subs will be used at WDW in some form or another. However, it won't be for just a direct clone, which I would think would make some people happy.
3. WDW is not in the need for another big E-ticket at this particular time. While the MK could use a new E-ticket as it hasn't added one in a while, the resort as a whole has added some big guns in the past 2-3 years, along with the current celebration that lasts until the end of 2006 to keep people rolling through the gates. It wouldn't be a bad idea to start construction on something soon that could open in 2-3 years from now, but I imagine they will use that land for something big when they need something new to advertise/lure people to WDW. Its the whole supply/demand thing.
4. Reclaiming the land provides WDI/WDC with an open canvas for any possible idea. Unlike DL where they are retrofitting an old sub ride, the MK now has enough space to build something truly unique and exiciting. The skeptics would have you believe that will never happen. My gut feeling tells me otherwise. But honestly, who knows. What I do now is that after 10 years of nothing, that precious area of land is now ready for something big and new.
GrowingUpDisney
New Member
DisKid said:
I am actully glad to see another play area. For years my husband and i went to Disney world as a family of two. We were able to ride all of the e-ticket rides together and never think twice. Now that we have a two year old, we have to ride them separately. It is nice for me to have a place to take our son to play while dad rides Space Mountain. It also gives us a place to break from standing in lines. If you have ever done that all day with a two year old, then you should be able to see how a play area like this can be utilized and appreciated.
I know that Disney will do something great with the rest of the land. We simply have to be a little patient.
Niki
Thrawn
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POOHKILLEDTOAD said:
No, they didn't. As 20k was a lake, you cannot bulldoze water. Therefore, they filled in the lake, and used a portion of the land to place a children's play area. Remember, this is FantasyLand, the one area out of all of them that is primarily geared toward young children.
But to answer your question, no.
WDWScottieBoy
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DisKid said:
:wave: I'm going to the MK tomorrow just for the playground! (Oh yeah, and to pick up a couple maps.)
Tom
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CTXRover said:
Great response! I agree. It should be obvious that WDW did not spend millions of dollars draining a pond and filling it in, just to build a tastefully themed play area. From the photos I've seen, I'm much more impressed with the playground than the old abandoned lagoon.
WDW is also in the middle of a big celebration. They're spending some pretty big bank on EE right now, and just finished building the other E-tickets, as mentioned in the above post. It would be understandable that they let this celebration blow over, finish up EE and then lay the groundwork for the MKs first new D or E-ticket in YEARS. But as stated above, the MK really doesn't NEED a D or E right now - it's doing fine, and handles crowds well. Heck, the play area handles the crowds WAY better than 20k ever did :lol:
I'm just glad they've temporarily used the land wisely and productively, for the kiddies, while they form their plan. I'll keep my mouth shut and not criticize them, and I anxiously await what WDI will bring us next
RealHawker
Member
from what I remember about the ride, and watching some home made videos of it, I am not missing 20kLUTS. They filled in some parts to make ARiel's Grotto. Pooh took out where Mr Toads wild ride was. There is plenty of land , lagoon left from 20kLUTS, who knows what they may do..
20luts and Swiss family are probably the biggest land hogs vs quality of attraction.
20luts and Swiss family are probably the biggest land hogs vs quality of attraction.
DisneyFreak529
New Member
peter11435 said:
I agree 100% with peter11435! You never know what the future holds for the rest of the space! Keep your hopes up!
personally (and I know its not marketable), I would like to see a revamped toad ride. Not so much because of the characters, but because it was a fun, light hearted ride. You know, maybe use 3-d animatronics instead of the cheesy, county fair style wood cutouts.
and yes, I know pooh had nothing to do with the closure of 20k...I just feel that until they planned the rest of the usage, they could have kept the lagoon. as I stated earlier, it was neat to look at.
and yes, I know pooh had nothing to do with the closure of 20k...I just feel that until they planned the rest of the usage, they could have kept the lagoon. as I stated earlier, it was neat to look at.