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Robbiem

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Pulling out of India now might bring in some short term cash but it looses a lot of potential down the line. India is a growing market and Disney has a good opportunity to build a good market presence. But that would be longer term planning for the post Bob era vs jam today
 

Lilofan

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Pulling out of India now might bring in some short term cash but it looses a lot of potential down the line. India is a growing market and Disney has a good opportunity to build a good market presence. But that would be longer term planning for the post Bob era vs jam today
TWDC is $47B in debt. Selling and getting $10B is one way to pay debt.
 

Robbiem

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TWDC is $47B in debt. Selling and getting $10B is one way to pay debt.
I get that but what I see is short termism. Why not sell Disneyland or Walt Disney World and pay off even more. Selling an asset for half of what it was valued at a few years ago is not good businesses, developing the asset and selling it for a profit is
 

Lilofan

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I get that but what I see is short termism. Why not sell Disneyland or Walt Disney World and pay off even more. Selling an asset for half of what it was valued at a few years ago is not good businesses, developing the asset and selling it for a profit is
That's like saying a family is $47K in credit card debt. Sold one of the cars for $10K , spend it on a nice vacation and or buy more stuff we don't need.
 

Robbiem

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That's like saying a family is $47K in credit card debt. Sold one of the cars for $10K , spend it on a nice vacation and or buy more stuff we don't need.

To me if you buy something for 16 billion and sell it for 8 billion you are down 8 billion and have nothing to show for it so you’re going to have to sell even more or do something else to make good your loss.

You’ve effectively added eight billion to your debt as you don’t have the assets anymore but still have the outstanding liability so you’ve made a bigger problem down the line

If you own the thing that costs 16 billion you have the assets which are making you money over time (if this covers paying the cost debt is another question). That’s before you add in growing your presence in a new market with a lot of potential

The real questions to me are:
Why is Disney doing a fire sale like this? Is it to make a short term balance improvement to look good to the market or is it part of a longer strategic plan to withdraw from markets and focus on others (like China and the western world)?

How have Disney ended up in a situation where they have to sell at a loss to pay off debt Why didn’t they have a plan to pay off their debt when they bought Fox? And if they did what has changed since?
 

Lilofan

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And Apple has like $112 billion. In fact, only like 6 of the S&P 500 have no debt. You do realize companies carrying debt is not a bad thing, right?
Apple is worth $3 Trillion. $112 Billion in debt is nothing. Apple can buy TWDC without even blinking.
 

Lilofan

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People don't understand debt.

This whole conversation is like telling a person who just bought a house on a fixed rate 30 year mortgage to go sell their car to start paying down their debt.
Paid off my 30 year mortgage in 11 years. Yes, a few like me like to be mortgage free. Debt free , what a concept!
 
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LSLS

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Apple is worth $3 Trillion. $112 Billion in debt is nothing. Apple can buy TWDC without even blinking.
Comcast is the very similar to Disney. Are you trying to make the case Disney is the worse than all on the S&P?
Paid off my 30 year mortgage in 11 years. Yes, a few like me like to be mortgage free.
Unless you are a multi-billion dollar company, that's not the same thing.
 

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