Disstevefan1
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You're right. And Iger agrees with you. That is why he is never leaving.Be serious. How many of these films were produced under Iger's leadership?
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News The Walt Disney Company Board of Directors Extends Robert A. Iger’s Contract as CEO Through 2026
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Vegas Disney Fan
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I think Disney has the talent in place to make movies, they just put too many conditions on them.
Making a good movie is hard enough, having to include a social agenda on that work makes it that much harder. It’s not enough to just tell a good story anymore, it has “to drive meaning cultural change”.
(Quoted from the Disney 5th key press release)
Disney changed their focus in 2020, and we’re now seeing the results.
TalkingHead
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Funnily enough, the Iger recipe for success in the 2010s largely contributed to the hole the company finds itself in today. They trained audiences to show up for one kind of expensive VFX movie. When the audience tired of that, the company had no Plan B except “watch these mega-budgeted VFX streaming series” for $8/mo. You see the problem?
Disstevefan1
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_caleb
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Regardless of how you feel about the state of the parks or about Disney's recent losing streak at the box office (while pivoting to become a major streaming platform), Iger has been in charge while Disney cranked out some of the highest grossing, most popular films and franchises in box office history.
Iger will eventually leave one way or another. His record has both highs and lows. But the hate is blinding many disgruntled folks here (and causing them to post a bunch of nonsense).
MagicHappens1971
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I’m a few pages late, but I don’t think Disney should divest from ABC. Maybe ESPN, but ABC has been a part of the company for decades and selling it off would also cut off content for D+. I also think it’s an asset Disney is no where near ready to let go of.
Disney sold off billions of assets that they acquired during the Fox acquisition, and while I personally do agree that the Fox acquisition was a poor decision and diluted the focus of the company, I am not the CEO.
With that being said I don’t think the Fox acquisition “diluted” the brand. Disney doesn’t market any of the Fox products as “Disney”, and while the same could be said for Star Wars & Marvel, those are “Disney” brands. Family Guy & The Simpsons are not, and I don’t think Disney will ever integrate them in the same way. I think if that was their intention they would’ve combined 20th Century TV into ABC Signature. Same goes for 20th Century Studios, they rebranded and did not combine it into Walt Disney Pictures.
Disney sold off billions of assets that they acquired during the Fox acquisition, and while I personally do agree that the Fox acquisition was a poor decision and diluted the focus of the company, I am not the CEO.
With that being said I don’t think the Fox acquisition “diluted” the brand. Disney doesn’t market any of the Fox products as “Disney”, and while the same could be said for Star Wars & Marvel, those are “Disney” brands. Family Guy & The Simpsons are not, and I don’t think Disney will ever integrate them in the same way. I think if that was their intention they would’ve combined 20th Century TV into ABC Signature. Same goes for 20th Century Studios, they rebranded and did not combine it into Walt Disney Pictures.
Disstevefan1
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Hate is a strong word. I do not hate Iger. I don't care enough about him to have any feeling either way.
I was thinking how I would use the word hate......
I got one.. I hate that the Osborne lights are gone
_caleb
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If audiences are now trained (thanks to the evil Bob Iger) to ONLY turn out for "expensive VFX movies," how do you explain the recent success of Barbie, Oppenheimer and Mario? And how does it explain the poor response to Disney's recent animated films? And have you seen all the content on Hulu and Disney+ that isn't "expensive VFX movies?"
Hulu's The Bear is fantastic! Only Murders in the Building has been killing it (sorry)! How have these managed to be hits if Bob Iger trained us so well?
I'm team Peltz all the way! Restore the Magic!
The current Burbank group is running Disney straight into the ground. 90% of Disney's problems today are COMPLETELY self induced. It's ALL a chain of horrible decisions by executives completely out of touch with reality.
The current Burbank group is running Disney straight into the ground. 90% of Disney's problems today are COMPLETELY self induced. It's ALL a chain of horrible decisions by executives completely out of touch with reality.
_caleb
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Well, whatever you call it, it seems to be a pretty strong motivator for loads of posts that conveniently ignore the company's successes simply because they happened under Iger.Hate is a strong word. I do not hate Iger. I don't care enough about him to have any feeling either way.
I was thinking how I would use the word hate......
I got one.. I hate that the Osborne lights are gone
Brian
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MagicHappens1971
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Peltz and his "team" will sell the entire company for parts. There will be no "magic". I don't disagree that the company has problems, but Peltz is not the solution.
Disstevefan1
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I like to think a Disney fan is like a sports fan. We love our team and we root for our team and we are happy when we are winning. We complain about our team; we complain about folks who are running our team when things are doing bad. When our team comes back and is winning, all is forgotten and we are happy.
You are right, I write nonsense because its fun and entertaining. You are right, these boards are nonsense. We like to think Disney reads these boards, and knows @_caleb is a loyal Disney fan and is some one who gets it. For others, they like to think they can show Disney the right things to do to make Disney the best ever. I would like to think, if Disney is reading these boards, they get a laugh or a smile out of it. In case you are reading this Disney, please bring back the Osborne lights!
The reality is, Disney is not reading the nonsense on these boards, they are not even reading the good stuff @_caleb is posting. Disney will do what they will do and we are all just fans and/or spectators.
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Even before that, Iger in so many words is looking to unload parts of the company. That's nothing new.
MagicHappens1971
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I won't disagree that Iger has discussed unloading parts of the company, but Peltz would dismantle the company.
We can all go back and forth in here, but in this day and age the company is worth far more together than separate.
Star Wars & Marvel for example, they spent nearly $8B (if not more) to acquire them, Forbes estimates that the MCU is worth $53B and Forbes estimates that Star Wars is worth $65B. However, that really isn't my point, these are producers that diversify the content Disney is creating, so does their 20th Century acquisitions. Their goal was to diversify and broaden their reach to try to make D+ more successful. Did they succeed? Not yet. I'm kind of rambling here, so I do apologize, but Star Wars & Marvel are integral parts of the brand now.
DPEP (While this should be restructured again), the parks are the most profitable part of the company and almost always have been. Selling them off may sound like a good idea in the short term, I just think this would further Disney's issues in the long term.
Selling off the Studios (their IP) which one could argue is more valuable than anything else, makes no sense.
If I was Disney, I would sell off ESPN, further consolidate their Fox acquisition assets and restructure the company again. The company overall is just very bloated in all the wrong places.
Iger's replacement(s) need to be a dual CEO/COO type deal. One person can not right this ship, and honestly one person should not be steering it. It's too diverse & large.
Nubs70
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They need to divest the low EBITDA entities
Disstevefan1
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Selling the parks off is such a short sighted, stupid thing, it sounds EXACTLY WHAT IGER'S DISNEY company would do sadly.
Disney Analyst
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Some in here seem to really be advocating for a world where Disney no longer exists, and their IP sold off to various other corporations, to do who knows what with.
No thanks. I think Disney can fix their issues, they've had many a rebound before.
No thanks. I think Disney can fix their issues, they've had many a rebound before.
GhostHost1000
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So what changed?
_caleb
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Disney aren't my audience (real or imagined) when I post, YOU are (well, you and all the other members/lurkers of WDWMagic). I'm not an activist, and I'm not trying to perform for anyone. I'm just a fan.I like to think a Disney fan is like a sports fan. We love our team and we root for our team and we are happy when we are winning. We complain about our team; we complain about folks who are running our team when things are doing bad. When our team comes back and is winning, all is forgotten and we are happy.
You are right, I write nonsense because its fun and entertaining. You are right, these boards are nonsense. We like to think Disney reads these boards, and knows @_caleb is a loyal Disney fan and is some one who gets it. For others, they like to think they can show Disney the right things to do to make Disney the best ever. I would like to think, if Disney is reading these boards, they get a laugh or a smile out of it. In case you are reading this Disney, please bring back the Osborne lights!
The reality is, Disney is not reading the nonsense on these boards, they are not even reading the good stuff @_caleb is posting. Disney will do what they will do and we are all just fans and/or spectators.
I enjoy many aspects of the Disney Parks and films, so I hang out here to discuss them with others who enjoy them. I want people to recognize some of the things I enjoy because I want them to enjoy those things too.
So when posters fixate on the negative, I try to point them to things that I find interesting, hoping they might find some enjoyment in discussion. But if what people enjoy is complaining or overreacting, that's not something I find fun.
Folks are free to post whatever this site allows, but I would prefer we at least try to engage with one another rather than continuing the common pattern of dropping in, sarcastically mocking Bob Iger, complaining about everything Disney does, self-righteously mocking other posters, and then jumping out.