News The Walt Disney Company Board of Directors Extends Robert A. Iger’s Contract as CEO Through 2026

peter11435

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Could someone please share why the consensus around here is Peltz is the bad guy? The things he lays out in the letter are common sense. Executive compensation should absolutely be tied to the company's performance. Disney+ needs to be profitable. Parks are the crown jewel of the company and should be funded that way. The films they've put out in recent years have, with few exceptions, been lacking in creativity.

Are folks assuming that he has motives antithetical to his letter, or are they opposed to what he has laid out?
His past actions paint a pretty clear view of his motives and intentions. He also doesn’t exactly have a great track record.

He may say that parks are the crown jewel and should by well funded but that isn’t his true intent. He wants to mine them for all they are worth not build them up to their full potential.
 

_caleb

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Could someone please share why the consensus around here is Peltz is the bad guy? The things he lays out in the letter are common sense. Executive compensation should absolutely be tied to the company's performance. Disney+ needs to be profitable. Parks are the crown jewel of the company and should be funded that way. The films they've put out in recent years have, with few exceptions, been lacking in creativity.

Are folks assuming that he has motives antithetical to his letter, or are they opposed to what he has laid out?
Seems like something that's been explained multiple times in this thread. Peltz is notorious for buying companies and then selling splitting them off up in parts to maximize the return on his investment. If you apply this to Disney, it'd likely mean selling off the Parks, individual studios, ABC, ESPN, and all the various IP.

He's spinning his campaign as "restore the magic," to try to get people's support.
 
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UNCgolf

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Regarding Peltz... even his own people don't always want him involved with things. I'm being intentionally vague here for multiple reasons, but I've seen correspondence (and not just a one off) where boards/executives were advised by Peltz's proxies/Trian employees to avoid holding meetings in certain locations because Peltz would be nearby at the time and might show up.
 
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Brian

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Seems like something that's been explained multiple times in this thread. Peltz is notorious for buying companies and then selling them off in parts to maximize the return on his investment. If you apply this to Disney, it'd likely mean selling off the Parks, individual studios, ABC, ESPN, and all the various IP.

He's spinning his campaign as "restore the magic," to try to get people's support.
I'd personally welcome selling off the parks to a reputable operator, so long as they could end up as well-managed as Tokyo Disney Resort is by OLC. They wouldn't be beholden to the underperforming segments of the company, such as D+ and ESPN, and capital generated by the parks can be directed towards their improvements, instead of being shipped out to prop up other segments.
 

Horizonsfan

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Peltz choosing Rasulo as a partner tells you almost all you need to know. Only outdone by Paul Pressler & Bob Chapek, he's the worst VP of Parks I can remember.

I'm curious about the consensus on two other items:

- The call to vote down Froman and Lagomasino. I'm tempted to support that action given they really don't seem to have a strong case for being there.
- The worth of adding any/all of Blackwells' nominees (Craig Hatkoff, Jessica Schell and Leah Solivan). While I'm not in favor of creating chaos, I am all for breaking up the echo chamber the boardroom has become for Iger.
 

James Alucobond

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Could someone please share why the consensus around here is Peltz is the bad guy? The things he lays out in the letter are common sense. Executive compensation should absolutely be tied to the company's performance. Disney+ needs to be profitable. Parks are the crown jewel of the company and should be funded that way. The films they've put out in recent years have, with few exceptions, been lacking in creativity.

Are folks assuming that he has motives antithetical to his letter, or are they opposed to what he has laid out?
The fact that we know exactly how Rasulo operates and that's who he's proposing come on board with him should really tell you everything you need to know.

EDIT: Uh, same thought as above, apparently. :D
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
  • Theme parks and cruise lines that attract millions of people from around the world each year; and
Mentions Cruise Lines, but doesn't mention if they've been mismanaged, too? Perhaps because DCL are doing very well. Under Iger.

  • Disney+, an emerging streaming giant with a library of enviable content.
"Streaming giant"! But will later claim it's mismanaged. How does a mismanaged streamer become a 'streaming giant'?


Disney was forced to cut its dividend and only recently restored it3 – meanwhile shareholders missed out on more than $12 billion in expected distributions between 2020 and 2023.4
zomg... Peltz is looking for back dividends payouts.



Despite Disney’s enviable and unique position in media and entertainment, its stock price is half what it was less than three years ago and Disney shareholders – like you and us – have collectively lost nearly $200 billion of our investment in that time.2 Disney’s recent creative efforts have disappointed its once-loyal customer base and have caused losses for shareholders. Disney was forced to cut its dividend and only recently restored it3 – meanwhile shareholders missed out on more than $12 billion in expected distributions between 2020 and 2023.4
Yes, Disney stock is doing worse than Dow or S&P. But so are most content producing companies.


Disney’s stock is down over the last one, three and five years. In fact, over those time periods, Disney’s total shareholder return (“TSR”) has significantly underperformed the stocks of other media and entertainment companies, despite Disney’s superior assets, capabilities and businesses. Disney’s TSR has underperformed the S&P 500 by a wide margin over each of those time periods, too.5

One year ago, three years ago, five years ago or ten years ago, you would have been far better served investing in an index fund like the S&P 500, or in a basket of Disney’s self-selected peers, than in Disney itself.6 Instead, you, like us, have been caught in the Disney mousetrap.
There were two giant leaps in DIS stock in the past five years. The first was an exuberance bubble due to the introduction of Disney+. Which, at that time, Disney said it would take five years to become profitable. The five years aren't up.

The second exuberance bubble was when Disney reported basically almost no net loss during the year of the lockdown and its parks were mostly closed. Investors saw Disney as a safe place to park their money. Once the pandemic protocols were over, they jumped ship.

Comparing stock now to those two bubble is financial negligence, or at best, ignorance.



  • The Company’s creative engine has stalled. For the first time in nearly a decade, Disney has lost its position as the highest-grossing movie studio.7 Disney’s last five films have collectively cost over $1 billion to produce, and yet two of those films have lost money, and another barely eked out a profit.8 Disney’s reputation as the world’s preeminent entertainment company – and the flywheel that drives its business – is at risk.
One bad year is not bankruptcy. There were still winners among the losers.

There were: Top tens. Awards. Massive box office which looks bad only when you look at the budget of the movies. Disney's BO was just a tad behind Universal's. But the big budgets made it look bad as a financial endeavor, not as a popular or creative endeavor.



  • Disney+, the emerging streaming business, has been poorly managed. Since the service was launched in 2019, Disney+ has failed to achieve profitability in any fiscal year. And while Netflix generates attractive profits, margins and cash flow from its streaming service, success at Disney+ has been elusive. Today, Netflix generates approximately 21 cents of profit for every dollar of revenue; in its 2023 fiscal year, Disney lost approximately 14 cents for every dollar of streaming revenue.9 In total, the streaming businesses have cost the Company more than $14 billion in operating losses over the last six years.10
Yes, Peltz. Read the heckin' road map. D+ wasn't going to produce a profit until this fiscal year. So, saying it wasn't profitable is disingenuous. Or dumb.

Was the spending too exuberant? Yes. But all the streamers were guilty of that and pulled back. And when Disney's CEO didn't pull back, he (Chapek) was fired. Iger came in and pulled back.



  • ESPN is challenged and lacks a clear strategy. ESPN is one of the most respected brands in sports media, but the once-lucrative business has suffered as cord-cutting has accelerated and sports rights costs have dramatically increased. ESPN has continued to shed subscribers, and investments into the direct-to-consumer app appear to lack clear return targets and payback is uncertain. Operating income for Disney’s Sports segment, which includes ESPN, dramatically declined in 2023.11
A clear strategy was announced at the last Quarterly call. It's clear Peltz isn't doing his homework.


  • Prices have gone up in the Parks even as investment has been deferred. Disney’s parks have long been a crown jewel of the Company and remain an important part of its future. But even though admission prices have increased by more than 35% over the last ten years,12 Disney recently revealed the need to invest a whopping $60 billion into its parks and cruise lines over the next ten years, seemingly to catch up for delayed or deferred investment.13 Disney has failed to answer how it plans to compete with Universal’s new attractions, why it has not kept pace with development, how and where this money will be spent, or what returns shareholders can expect to earn on this massive investment.
The "need to invest"? As if no one's showing up due to lack of investment?

They've been spending billions over the past decade. The focus on streaming, which is existentially vital to be as success once all the linear TV income is gone, was the wise move, even to the detriment of the parks. Linear advertising saved Disney during the lockdown. The parks are susceptible to the next pandemic and Disney needs a diversified revenue stream for if that were ever to happen again.



  • Lack of Alignment: Disney’s CEO, Bob Iger, has sold nearly all of his Disney stock, reaping proceeds in cash of more than $1 billion; today, he is left owning comparatively few shares.17
You know he sold the stocks because he left his position after the board executed a successful CEO transitions (notwithstanding who they chose), right? We can fix this by giving Iger more stocks!!



  • Lack of Accountability: Despite years of Disney underperformance and shareholder discontent that has been repeatedly expressed at Disney’s annual shareholder meeting votes,18 the Board continues to claim it knows best, refusing to heed input from shareholders or add shareholder-selected directors to the Board who can bring fresh perspectives to Disney’s challenges.
You mean the once-a-year meeting where one person promotes a radical right agenda and the next a radical left agenda?

There's no meaningful input from the peanut gallery at those meetings.



We do not believe the current Board can solve Disney’s problems. To Restore the Magic, we need new perspectives, fresh thinking and tangible goals. We certainly do not expect this same Board that has sat idle, watching Disney’s decline, to suddenly change and have the drive to fix Disney.So, to ensure a better future for this great company, we, its owners, must act!
Going all-in on streaming was a very fresh and bold idea. And one that was vital for the company to survive in the next decade. Peltz would never have done that since it would put his precious dividends in jeopardy.



Disney’s current directors do not want our candidates inside the board room. Perhaps they do not want the hard questions and focus on shareholder value. The Disney Board is seeking to exclude them and appease shareholders with its own appointments, adding two new, hand-selected directors that were chosen without shareholder input. You should be wary of cosmetic “change” orchestrated by the same directors who have consistently failed shareholders.
What happened to making Disney great for consumers? What happened to "restore the magic"?



If elected, Nelson Peltz and Jay Rasulo will seek to work diligently and collaboratively with the other Disney directors and management to:
  • Initiate a Board-led review of the Company’s creative processes and structure so that Disney can once again claim its #1 position at the box office while consistently delivering industry-leading content and Disney hallmarks;
Disney's BO returns was only a few tens of thousand dollars from being number one. Universal's BO was $4.91B and Disney's was $4.83. About a one and half percentage point from claiming its #1 position!



  • Insist that management finally develop and implement an executable plan for the streaming business in order to achieve Netflix-like levels of profitability;
Peltz's plan: Be like Netflix. They give dividends!!

I'm kidding. His real plan is: Come up with a plan!!



  • Press management to disclose the expected returns on the $60 billion of announced investments in the Parks and Experiences business;
See, all you park fans: If that $60B for the parks doesn't bring about "expected returns"... then that investment is not going to happen.


  • Finally execute a successful CEO succession process, while cultivating a deep bench of capable, next-generation leaders.
Finally? They did it once. Unfortunately, it was Chapek as the replacement.




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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Exactly. It was under Iger's brilliant leadership that Disney has expanded into new franchises like the Simpsons, Family Guy, Aliens, Deadpool, Avatar, and FX. His management of the family friendly Disney brands is unsurpassed!
Funny, Peltz didn't mention the Fox purchase as being a bad thing. If it were bad for the company or dividends or "the magic," then Peltz looks bad for not mentioning it.
 

Stripes

Premium Member
Executive compensation should absolutely be tied to the company's performance.
It already is. Read Disney’s proxy statement.
Disney+ needs to be profitable. Parks are the crown jewel of the company and should be funded that way. The films they've put out in recent years have, with few exceptions, been lacking in creativity.
The company’s leadership has clearly recognized every point Peltz raises and has been nothing but transparent about the challenges and focus for the next couple years.

The question is not whether the company needs to address these matters, it’s whether Peltz brings anything of value to the table. I’d argue that not only does he bring bad ideas (bundling ESPN+ with Netflix is a doozy) he also brings distraction and dilutes focus.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Am I just not seeing this or reading it wrong? He came back on in 2022 and it says he is leaving in 2026, that is the 2 original years plus the 2 year extension we already knew about. Doesn't sound like there is any new extension.
Which is too long as is…
You are correct
And he should leave. That last “self extension” is that same old nonsense from a guy who’s been there too long as is. 72? 20+ years in?

It’s time

Even you can meet me somewhere halfway on this.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Could someone please share why the consensus around here is Peltz is the bad guy? The things he lays out in the letter are common sense. Executive compensation should absolutely be tied to the company's performance. Disney+ needs to be profitable. Parks are the crown jewel of the company and should be funded that way. The films they've put out in recent years have, with few exceptions, been lacking in creativity.

Are folks assuming that he has motives antithetical to his letter, or are they opposed to what he has laid out?

He can’t be trusted. He’s not quite a Gordon gecko corporate raider…but he would do things to get his money that could strip value out of the asset. More like Bain Capital. Uncle mitt runs staples - which is cool. But they gutted toys r us to sell off its real estate and now kids dont have a Toy Story. That really sucks.

Seems like something that's been explained multiple times in this thread. Peltz is notorious for buying companies and then selling them off in parts to maximize the return on his investment. If you apply this to Disney, it'd likely mean selling off the Parks, individual studios, ABC, ESPN, and all the various IP.

He's spinning his campaign as "restore the magic," to try to get people's support.

Not exactly true. He can’t be trusted…but doesn’t have a History of fire sales either.

Disney does have bloat that is dragging them. ESPN tops on that list. The decision to “internalize” their content will also prove to be bad…though that thought process made sense at the time.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Absolutely…. It’s time for new leadership.

But that doesn’t mean anyone should support Peltz
100%

I want he and Ike to go away…and take all the way Jay with them…

Best way to do that is for Iger to leave and they can claim a notch in their octogenarian belts.

But that Disney quote yesterday: Rasulo has been “gone too long and wouldn’t work well for Iger”

Ummm…he did Iger’s bidding for 15 years…

And as a director…Iger works for HIM.

That statement is a 5 alarm warning siren of how broke things are.
 

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