The Ultimate Disney Classics VIP Tour now available at the Magic Kingdom

21stamps

Well-Known Member
So you're willing to pay an upcharge to get away from people to do things because you only have 2 days. Got it. Just because you want to go prior to Easter and airfare isn't cheap? Maybe if you had a different plan, since they're non-expiring tickets you would find a different 2 days to go. Who knows, you could save money on airfare and go when wait times are down. But hey, more power to ya.




It's not the same! Read what it is, then re-read it, it's not the same! It's a tour, aimed at families with small children who want to pay to get on 10 rides in 4 hours. This is not a thrill tour by any means, but you fail to see that.
You're still not getting it. No, I don't have to go Easter weekend. That particular weekend would be for a specific special occasion. If we do not go that weekend then we aren't going at all.
The Ultimate Day of Thrills is a seperate tour. For $299. This new "Classics" tour just replaced an "Ultimate Families" tour (I can't remember the exact name) $299 SAME MK ride itinerary. Those 2 and the VIP Premium made up the 3 VIP Tours. One (the families one) disappeared from the website sometime recently. Now this new one was announced. It is VERY SIMILAR.

Edit - Here. I just googled it. This is what I am talking about. This is what the new tour replaced. It wasn't added. FP+ is not in jeopardy. Everyone can calm down now.lol https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...the-ultimate-day-for-young-families-vip-tour/
 
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RobidaFlats

Well-Known Member
This new "Classics" tour just replaced an "Ultimate Families" tour (I can't remember the exact name) $299 SAME MK ride itinerary. Those 2 and the VIP Premium made up the 3 VIP Tours. One (the families one) disappeared from the website sometime recently. Now this new one was announced. It is VERY SIMILAR.

I can't wait to hear how the definition of "Very Similar" is about to change.

The original tour in question was the Ultimate Day for Families VIP Tour. For starting differences:
  • It was 6 to 7 hours (not 4 hours like the current one)
  • It included a sit down lunch (the current one does not)
  • It went to 3 parks (the current one is only Magic Kingdom)
Oh, and check this out, here's a source that took 30 seconds to find: https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...the-ultimate-day-for-young-families-vip-tour/
 

RobidaFlats

Well-Known Member
Yes. Dealing with extreme crowds during one day (the Saturday day before Easter) at MK while using the last of my non expiring tickets and paying too much in Airfare to go there and come right back after a hectic 2 days..yeah, I'll take an upcharge. It would actually give me more value in my day. You don't have to agree with that.

I hope that you're not planning on utilizing this value on the Saturday before Easter.

The announcement clearly states that it is only available on Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays. Although I suppose you could use some of your compelling logic that we've grown accustomed to here on Disney to sway them that they really meant whatever day you need it to be.
 

S 2

Well-Known Member
I can see what you are saying. As a question, though - Does this tour have anything backstage? I didn't get that impression from the description. As I understand it, most tours that have ride access, the guide takes you through the FP line...not into cm only areas. I could be wrong, though.

I'm honestly not sure, I thought I read something about entering from the back? I could very well be wrong as I often am...
 

Biff215

Well-Known Member
You're still not getting it. No, I don't have to go Easter weekend. That particular weekend would be for a specific special occasion. If we do not go that weekend then we aren't going at all.
The Ultimate Day of Thrills is a seperate tour. For $299. This new "Classics" tour just replaced an "Ultimate Families" tour (I can't remember the exact name) $299 SAME MK ride itinerary. Those 2 and the VIP Premium made up the 3 VIP Tours. One (the families one) disappeared from the website sometime recently. Now this new one was announced. It is VERY SIMILAR.

Edit - Here. I just googled it. This is what I am talking about. This is what the new tour replaced. It wasn't added. FP+ is not in jeopardy. Everyone can calm down now.lol https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/b...the-ultimate-day-for-young-families-vip-tour/

Sorry, that doesn't make me feel any better. The fact that they're modifying this may mean they're simply trying to find the right price point and offerings. If this somehow becomes popular and sells out on those days, do you honestly think Disney will hesitate to add more? At some point it could affect FP+.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
Sorry, that doesn't make me feel any better. The fact that they're modifying this may mean they're simply trying to find the right price point and offerings. If this somehow becomes popular and sells out on those days, do you honestly think Disney will hesitate to add more? At some point it could affect FP+.
I only know 1 person who did the Ultimate Families Day..it was sold out on her day, but that doesn't mean much in the grand scheme. I don't know why they restructured this one, and I don't know why they changed the Ultimate Thrills itinerary. Maybe it has something to do with Pandora? Total guess there.
These tours are so small that I don't think they have an impact on park guests whatsoever. I also don't think it's a sign of FP+ going to a paid system.
I've said so many times..it wouldn't make a lot of sense. What price point could they put it? What would it do to crowds? The point of FP+ is to disperse people...this can't be achieved with a paid fast lane.
I do think it's odd that the paid mornings have all but gone away..I would think those would continue, they seemed to be very popular...one more way to "pay" to skip crowds. I think more or restructured options such as those are much more likely than a charge for FP+
..notice I use "I" a lot. These are my opinions, just based on what seems to make sense.
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
Premium Member
The answer is simple. Society today has the people that "have to have it, and they want it right now!". Let's call this the "Katiebug effect".
I'd rather call it the "Veruca Salt Effect."

So my family of 4 would still have to pay park admission to do this tour, then pay $80 per FP (for all 4 of us) to ride things that even the promo said were not thrilling. Sorry but even cupcakes for all of us does not make this appealing.

Pass.
But that "special Disney treat" may actually be a cupcake (one per person, flavors and decoration subject to availability and substitution with a crisped rice treat at the discretion of the VIP Tour Guide).

At the end of the day, WDW doesn't want to sell FP+. So they throw in a TourGuide as the "product" and the FP+-like access is a happy coincidence...
 
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mousehockey37

Well-Known Member
These tours are so small that I don't think they have an impact on park guests whatsoever. I also don't think it's a sign of FP+ going to a paid system.
I've said so many times..it wouldn't make a lot of sense. What price point could they put it? What would it do to crowds? The point of FP+ is to disperse people...this can't be achieved with a paid fast lane.
I do think it's odd that the paid mornings have all but gone away..I would think those would continue, they seemed to be very popular...one more way to "pay" to skip crowds. I think more or restructured options such as those are much more likely than a charge for FP+
..notice I use "I" a lot. These are my opinions, just based on what seems to make sense.

Ok, so you're still not getting it, and that's ok... Disney likes peoples money like yours.

What price point could they put on it you ask? Well, $299/person right now is the price for this new offering... so there ya go! That was an easy question. I'm sure, based on how this thing sells, you'll see a tweak to it here and there and then the price will go up OR you'll start to hear more rumors of tiers of FPs that you can buy.

What will it do to crowds? Probably not much on the rides that this will go to (most don't have over a 15 minutes standby time anyway), so if anything, you'll see a somewhat higher than normal standby line time and it'll go right back down after the tour leaves.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
This tour would be $800 for a family of four....I'm not sure I would consider that very affordable on top of the price of tickets.

I just bought my brother''s family discounted tickets to wdw. It was $950 for the following:
Two 3 day adult base tickets
One 3 day child base ticket
One 1 day adult MK ticket.
These are military discount tickets (not the Salute ones, just regular discounted tickets).

This tour would almost double the cost of their admission. While I do see the value that some will put on it, I don't know that I'd consider this extremely "affordable" in the scheme of the vacation.

And it doesn't actually give them anything they couldn't do on their own without it.. just in theory some time waiting in line. This is simply trying to charge $200 for a 'convenience fee'

Instead of you know.. keeping the experience of visiting the park enjoyable in the first place. :(
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Not extremely affordable, just affordable; doable...possible. Even for struggling families

What struggling family says... "$100 a day is alot.." but $200 a person is worth **reduced** wait times??? That's right.. they may be spending $150/night to put their family in the magical disney hotel... for say.. $35/head.. but they are going to justify spending SIX TIMES THAT AMOUNT to have the same exact experience, but with less waiting?

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mousehockey37

Well-Known Member
What struggling family says... "$100 a day is alot.." but $200 a person is worth **reduced** wait times??? That's right.. they may be spending $150/night to put their family in the magical disney hotel... for say.. $35/head.. but they are going to justify spending SIX TIMES THAT AMOUNT to have the same exact experience, but with less waiting?

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I think this is a result of that new Common Core math... As we can see, it's not working very well.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
Here's the question...convenience or not, and regardless of whether someone is willing to pay or not...is this the beginning of monetizing FP?

At the current pace of introducing new paid offerings... the equivalent of paid FPs has got to be only a matter of weeks to months away. I'd call this pretty dang close, but at least it's fixed in when/what is covered. I think Disney will do more of the same to mask the idea of simply selling FPs (aka dining packages like they've done for years now) but it has to be coming.. Disney has thrown it all to the wind now, monetizing skipping the line would be their biggest payoff yet. No way they can resist now...
 

Bandini

Well-Known Member
If Disney does go all the way with monetizing FP's, will FP's still be included with park tickets? If so, how valuable will those be? I would imagine the guests who purchase FP would spend less time in line than the people who had the "free" FP
 

wdisney9000

Truindenashendubapreser
Premium Member
I can't wait to hear how the definition of "Very Similar" is about to change.
Just take your pic from one of 21's standard responses:

1. "Blah, blah, blah, I visited Breakers."
2. "Blah, blah, blah, I stayed at Atlantis."
3. "Blah, blah, blah, I went to Disney last month"

Those 3 responses or random variations of them seem to justify most anything.
 

Bandini

Well-Known Member
Just take your pic from one of 21's standard responses:

1. "Blah, blah, blah, I visited Breakers."
2. "Blah, blah, blah, I stayed at Atlantis."
3. "Blah, blah, blah, I went to Disney last month"

Those 3 responses or random variations of them seem to justify most anything.
But you do realize that it's only the Magic's newest members who have issues with 21's posts, don't you? :confused:
 

Nickels5

Well-Known Member
Ok, so you're still not getting it, and that's ok... Disney likes peoples money like yours.

What price point could they put on it you ask? Well, $299/person right now is the price for this new offering... so there ya go! That was an easy question. I'm sure, based on how this thing sells, you'll see a tweak to it here and there and then the price will go up OR you'll start to hear more rumors of tiers of FPs that you can buy.

What will it do to crowds? Probably not much on the rides that this will go to (most don't have over a 15 minutes standby time anyway), so if anything, you'll see a somewhat higher than normal standby line time and it'll go right back down after the tour leaves.
I don't agree with 21 stamps but I do not see Disney going to a paid FP+ system, I could see them doing something along the lines of paying for extra Fastpasses but I do believe that everyone will always get the 3.
 

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