Trip Report The third time was the charm! We just got back from WDW...

We just returned from 5 nights at the Grand Floridian, and three days in the parks. We got home on Dec 22. We had a great time, and are glad that we went. But that doesn't mean that the trip was without some Covid-fueled heartburn. We originally had this trip scheduled for spring break, but Covid moved it to summer... which Covid moved to now. I would have rather gone any other time of year, but alas, here we are.

We got a better room at the GF than we probably would have gotten otherwise because of the reduced occupancy. It's obvious that there are fewer guests at the resort than normal. The downside, is that V&A and Citricos are closed, and of course the lack of the Orchestra as been discussed ad nauseam. Mousekeeping is cut back ridiculously, and for probably no reason, as we know now that the virus doesn't really spread that way. Reduced Mousekeeping makes an already NUTS room price even more insulting. ...but I knew this going in, so I was a good little soldier and paid my bill without complaint.

We had drinks one night at the Enchanted Rose. The cocktails were excellent, but very expensive. ($25 ea.) I would have had another round, and spent more money, if they had been just $7-9 cheaper. Surely they know that? I suppose that's not what they wanted though...

Mask wearing is enforced everywhere on the property. This is a mostly good thing, but there are a few times when you just want to take a picture without a mask - and no one is nearby - and some nervous ninny comes to hassle you. Annoying. I understand what they're trying to do, but being reasonable would be nice.

THE most aggravating thing about the Covid changes is the lines you have to wait in to go in stores. Of course, the place where this is the worst is in Galaxy's Edge. This makes it near impossible to stroll and enjoy the new land. There was a 40 minute line just to get in the street bazaar area. I waited, and got my wife the Ahsoka doll she wanted :) but I wish that could be avoided. I fully understand why they have to put the limit on the number of people allowed in a store, but that fact makes it no less irritating.

On our day at Studios, we rode all the new rides, and enjoyed them all. Smugglers Run is AWESOME, and Rise of the Resistance is totally different and almost as good. The Runaway Railway was fun, but my wife liked it better than I did. I think the intro story is cut out because of Covid? It makes the beginning disjointed, like watching a movie after showing up 15 minutes late for it. As a result, I spent my time on the ride appreciating the trackless technology, instead of the story being told. Alien Swirling Saucers has been derided here, but my 6 year old son loved it. It's the ride he talks about the most still. And the Slinky Dog Coaster - he loved that too. It was fun for me.

In the Magic Kingdom, the crowds felt about normal - which many of you will not want to hear. Not normal for pre-Christmas, but normal for a regular summer's day. I'm sure that if more of the shows and restaurants had been open, then this would be different, but alas this is true. Perhaps some of the attractions are shut down simply so The Mouse will have room for the longer queue lines. The only ride I really missed was the train (which was closed). We rode everything else we wanted to, even with the longer lines. I missed the (non-existent) parade, and the Dapper Dans were apparently performing, but I didn't get to see them.

Epcot is a freakin' disaster right now. We should have gone to AK instead with our third day (my wife disagrees). The old Communicore and fountain area is walled off and you have to walk around it, making the already long walk even longer. Apart from the World Showcase, which I love, there's very little to do at Epcot right now. The biggest question from our time at WDW is why in the world is The Mouse building the Tron ride at MK? The front side of Epcot could really use it, and it could be integrated into the "mission" of that park easily. That's a total mystery to us. We rode Test Track, Soarin, Living With The Land, Nemo (isn't it awful?), and Spaceship Earth. I wish they'd just shut down the front of Epcot and get it done faster, because it's not worth visiting right now. Regarding the World Showcase, it's funny to hear the rest of my family hate on the Frozen ride. My daughter should be enrapt by it, but she just misses the Maelstrom. :) I do wonder what they'll do with the meet & greet area in Norway when no one really cares about Anna & Elsa anymore. Our day at Epcot was saved by my beloved Biergarten. The band was great - as usual - and I like the way they're serving family style now. That might be the one good Covid change.

Lastly, Disney Springs was buzzing with people. Very crowded. I really don't like going there now, because of what they've done to it. Obviously it's a success, because of all the stores and people, but I sure do miss the Adventurer's Club, and the other unique places that used to make up Pleasure Island.

We had a good time, and I'm glad we went - although I sure will be glad when Covid is a bad memory. Won't we all!

Edited to add: It's bizarre to see the Polynesian dismantled the way it is. ...and Trader Sam's was closed! :bawling:
 
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Zipadeelady

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Thanks for your insight. I've been wondering how long the low crowds would last and from your report and others looks like the normal Summer crowds are back. I understand what you mean with the rules, I understand why they're there and I agree with them but that doesn't mean it's not aggravating and a bit upsetting.
 

mickEblu

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We just returned from 5 nights at the Grand Floridian, and three days in the parks. We got home on Dec 22. We had a great time, and are glad that we went. But that doesn't mean that the trip was without some Covid-fueled heartburn. We originally had this trip scheduled for spring break, but Covid moved it to summer... which Covid moved to now. I would have rather gone any other time of year, but alas, here we are.

We got a better room at the GF than we probably would have gotten otherwise because of the reduced occupancy. It's obvious that there are fewer guests at the resort than normal. The downside, is that V&A and Citricos are closed, and of course the lack of the Orchestra as been discussed ad nauseam. Mousekeeping is cut back ridiculously, and for probably no reason, as we know now that the virus doesn't really spread that way. Reduced Mousekeeping makes an already NUTS room price even more insulting. ...but I knew this going in, so I was a good little soldier and paid my bill without complaint.

We had drinks one night at the Enchanted Rose. The cocktails were excellent, but very expensive. ($25 ea.) I would have had another round, and spent more money, if they had been just $7-9 cheaper. Surely they know that? I suppose that's not what they wanted though...

Mask wearing is enforced everywhere on the property. This is a mostly good thing, but there are a few times when you just want to take a picture without a mask - and no one is nearby - and some nervous ninny comes to hassle you. Annoying. I understand what they're trying to do, but being reasonable would be nice.

THE most aggravating thing about the Covid changes is the lines you have to wait in to go in stores. Of course, the place where this is the worst is in Galaxy's Edge. This makes it near impossible to stroll and enjoy the new land. There was a 40 minute line just to get in the street bazaar area. I waited, and got my wife the Ahsoka doll she wanted :) but I wish that could be avoided. I fully understand why they have to put the limit on the number of people allowed in a store, but that fact makes it no less irritating.

On our day at Studios, we rode all the new rides, and enjoyed them all. Smugglers Run is AWESOME, and Rise of the Resistance is totally different and almost as good. The Runaway Railway was fun, but my wife liked it better than I did. I think the intro story is cut out because of Covid? It makes the beginning disjointed, like watching a movie after showing up 15 minutes late for it. As a result, I spent my time on the ride appreciating the trackless technology, instead of the story being told. Alien Swirling Saucers has been derided here, but my 6 year old son loved it. It's the ride he talks about the most still. And the Slinky Dog Coaster - he loved that too. It was fun for me.

In the Magic Kingdom, the crowds felt about normal - which many of you will not want to hear. Not normal for pre-Christmas, but normal for a regular summer's day. I'm sure that if more of the shows and restaurants had been open, then this would be different, but alas this is true. Perhaps some of the attractions are shut down simply so The Mouse will have room for the longer queue lines. The only ride I really missed was the train (which was closed). We rode everything else we wanted to, even with the longer lines. I missed the (non-existent) parade, and the Dapper Dans were apparently performing, but I didn't get to see them.

Epcot is a freakin' disaster right now. We should have gone to AK instead with our third day (my wife disagrees). The old Communicore and fountain area is walled off and you have to walk around it, making the already long walk even longer. Apart from the World Showcase, which I love, there's very little to do at Epcot right now. The biggest question from our time at WDW is why in the world is The Mouse building the Tron ride at MK? The front side of Epcot could really use it, and it could be integrated into the "mission" of that park easily. That's a total mystery to us. We rode Test Track, Soarin, Living With The Land, Nemo (isn't it awful?), and Spaceship Earth. I wish they'd just shut down the front of Epcot and get it done faster, because it's not worth visiting right now. Regarding the World Showcase, it's funny to hear the rest of my family hate on the Frozen ride. My daughter should be enrapt by it, but she just misses the Maelstrom. :) I do wonder what they'll do with the meet & greet area in Norway when no one really cares about Anna & Elsa anymore. Our day at Epcot was saved by my beloved Biergarten. The band was great - as usual - and I like the way they're serving family style now. That might be the one good Covid change.

Lastly, Disney Springs was buzzing with people. Very crowded. I really don't like going there now, because of what they've done to it. Obviously it's a success, because of all the stores and people, but I sure do miss the Adventurer's Club, and the other unique places that used to make up Pleasure Island.

We had a good time, and I'm glad we went - although I sure will be glad when Covid is a bad memory. Won't we all!

Edited to add: It's bizarre to see the Polynesian dismantled the way it is. ...and Trader Sam's was closed! :bawling:

I’m planning a trip in late Feb (1st trip to WDW) with my wife, 5 year old and 5 month old. Some of what you say is making me nervous. I’m just worried about the hassle of going with young kids not being worth it during these Covidian times. It looks like I chose wisely to make Epcot the only park I go to only once. I have 2 reservations for the 3 other parks. I was also considering going to Biergarten but I thought it might eat up too much time since I only have one eight hour day at Epcot.
 

Dutch Inn '76

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I’m planning a trip in late Feb (1st trip to WDW) with my wife, 5 year old and 5 month old. Some of what you say is making me nervous. I’m just worried about the hassle of going with young kids not being worth it during these Covidian times. It looks like I chose wisely to make Epcot the only park I go to only once. I have 2 reservations for the 3 other parks. I was also considering going to Biergarten but I thought it might eat up too much time since I only have one eight hour day at Epcot.
First time huh? I’m honestly torn over whether to tell you to go or not; so I won’t make that call, I’ll only give you a little more info, and let you make that call.

The main thing you need to understand, is that WDW is operating at about 60% “strength” right now. Most of the rides are operating, but some are not. Most, if not all, of the live shows are closed. There are no parades. The “cavalcades” that have taken their place are not even worth counting. While the character meals are operating, they’re not allowed to come to your table. Some of the stores are closed. Many of the street vendors are closed. Almost all of the little touches that make WDW special are not operating; the parades, the roving “lunatics” here and there, the train, Tom Sawyer’s Island (which your son would probably love), etc.

I have no reservations whatsoever about going with a baby. I’ve done it myself twice. That ain’t the problem. The problem is with you and your 5 year old. If you think you might go back to WDW in the near-ish future, then GO and realize that the place is not operating at full strength. If you think you might not go back in the next 10 years, then you probably need to reschedule for a time when the place is closer to fully open.

Epcot: Doing it in 8 hours is easy right now, including the Biergarten. Get your reservation for ~6:55, (depending on closing time) and take your time eating; that way you might be able to see two shows. With a 5 year older, you’ll want to make sure you hit Soarin, Test Track and Spaceship Earth. Do Mission Space if no one gets motion sick. Frozen, Nemo & Living with the Land if you have time, with Imagination last. (JMO of course.)
 

mickEblu

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First time huh? I’m honestly torn over whether to tell you to go or not; so I won’t make that call, I’ll only give you a little more info, and let you make that call.

The main thing you need to understand, is that WDW is operating at about 60% “strength” right now. Most of the rides are operating, but some are not. Most, if not all, of the live shows are closed. There are no parades. The “cavalcades” that have taken their place are not even worth counting. While the character meals are operating, they’re not allowed to come to your table. Some of the stores are closed. Many of the street vendors are closed. Almost all of the little touches that make WDW special are not operating; the parades, the roving “lunatics” here and there, the train, Tom Sawyer’s Island (which your son would probably love), etc.

I have no reservations whatsoever about going with a baby. I’ve done it myself twice. That ain’t the problem. The problem is with you and your 5 year old. If you think you might go back to WDW in the near-ish future, then GO and realize that the place is not operating at full strength. If you think you might not go back in the next 10 years, then you probably need to reschedule for a time when the place is closer to fully open.

Epcot: Doing it in 8 hours is easy right now, including the Biergarten. Get your reservation for ~6:55, (depending on closing time) and take your time eating; that way you might be able to see two shows. With a 5 year older, you’ll want to make sure you hit Soarin, Test Track and Spaceship Earth. Do Mission Space if no one gets motion sick. Frozen, Nemo & Living with the Land if you have time, with Imagination last. (JMO of course.)


Thanks for the response. The lack of entertainment and characters don’t bother me. Neither do the shorter hours... as long as wait times are shorter. That’s the big trade off for me but I’m not sure wait times will be as short as I wanted to see them. It’s more so the operational stuff that’s giving me the cold feet. I feel like a trip to WDW would already have its “challenges” with two young children. Then throw in things like not having the convenience of FP+, no magic morning hours, waiting in line for stores, having to plan out your quick service meals in advance via mobile order, masks on your face all day fogging up your glasses. When I first started planning this trip I felt that the positive out weighed the negatives but now I’m almost convinced it’s the other way around. If I’m going to deal with all the stuff I listed above then POTC (for example) better be a walk on or I need to be getting a hefty discount on the trip- neither of which seem to be the case. By the way, I actually booked the trip for 2/22- 3/2. I’m willing to wait it out and monitor the wait times since the trip is refundable up until the day before.

Thanks again!
 

Dutch Inn '76

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Thanks for the response. The lack of entertainment and characters don’t bother me. Neither do the shorter hours... as long as wait times are shorter. That’s the big trade off for me but I’m not sure wait times will be as short as I wanted to see them. It’s more so the operational stuff that’s giving me the cold feet. I feel like a trip to WDW would already have its “challenges” with two young children. Then throw in things like not having the convenience of FP+, no magic morning hours, waiting in line for stores, having to plan out your quick service meals in advance via mobile order, masks on your face all day fogging up your glasses. When I first started planning this trip I felt that the positive out weighed the negatives but now I’m almost convinced it’s the other way around. If I’m going to deal with all the stuff I listed above then POTC (for example) better be a walk on or I need to be getting a hefty discount on the trip- neither of which seem to be the case. By the way, I actually booked the trip for 2/22- 3/2. I’m willing to wait it out and monitor the wait times since the trip is refundable up until the day before.

Thanks again!
The only reason wait time might be shorter is because you’re going in February. They will not be shorter because of Covid. That’s what I found at least.

IMHO, magic morning hours don’t really shorten waits. Wisely used FPs do, however, when paired with arriving at rope drop.

I didn’t say this above, but we really liked ordering quick service meals by mobile. It’s better than having to wait in line to do so. You just order as you are walking to the restaurant, and then pick it up soon after you arrive. I’ll bet that this Covid change doesn’t go away.

You won’t walk on POTC unless you rope drop, or try it near closing. Same for any of the moderately popular rides - and certainly the biggies like that or Peter Pan.
 

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