The Real Genius of Tower of Terror

Animaniac93-98

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Original Poster
Was thinking about this last night...

What makes Tower of Terror such a special attraction? Why do people love it despite the fact that it's not explicitly "Disney" and that the TV show it's based on is no longer the cultural touchstone it used to be? As good as the ride is, I think, like all great Disney works, it touches on something in the broader cultural sphere beyond the realm of theme parks.

The Haunted Mansion was a byproduct of the time it was built; the mid-century revival of gothic horror that was kickstarted by Shock Theater and Hammer's first Frankenstein movie. As good as it is, the ride is just the ultimate example of the archetype it's based on, and Victorian haunted hoses are dime a dozen in American pop culture.

There was no craze about haunted hotels in the 80s or 90s. Disney invented one themselves and in doing so created something that (intentionally or not) tied so many popular obsessions together. Faded glamour, tragic disasters, abandoned liminal spaces, paranormal investigations and more. All things that are even more popular today than in 1994 thanks to the widespread adoption of the internet and how much content has been made about those topics since. If The Hollywood Tower Hotel was a real building with no ride or formal backstory, people would still be fascinated with it, and probably invent their own mythology. The "golden age of Hollywood" is not the selling point because most people don't have a nostalgia for that time period or were raised on the retrospectives of the 70s and 80s that built the image of Hollywood's past that informed all of MGM Studios. What it does do is further sell the idea of a deep history, of great success that was suddenly and horrifically removed in an instant. That's a powerful idea that reaches across generations and gives the ride it's spellbinding aura.

The building itself is also a spectacular work of design. Comparing it with Haunted Mansion, even in the incarnations where you walk into the facade, it's obvious not everything that happens in the ride does so in that house. It's merely a set. Tower of Terror is one of the few Disney rides you can view from all angles and is so huge that even accounting for the forced perspective and allegedly missing corridors, it still creates the suspension of disbelief that lets audiences believe there's so much more inside than there really is. How many people have believed the urban myth about other things being in there besides the ride? Or have wished to explore more than where the elevator takes you and spend a night in one of its rooms or lounge at the Tip Top Club? Few theme park rides reach this level of curiosity beyond the thrills they give to riders.

As a Twilight Zone episode though, it's not very good. There's no real twist to the premise, no allegory or parable about a broader theme or subject, the scare of the drop is given away before we go inside etc. There's an episode called "Five Characters In Search of an Exit", but that's not the focus of the five elevator passengers in the ride, and we never learn anything more about them or their circumstance. It's just another example of Eisner-era Disney's fascination and love of backstories.

But that's why Tower of Terror would still be a great experience and idea, with or without the Twilight Zone branding. Everything else about the attraction was invented for this ride. Its the only IP ride that's also an original work. But the very specific IP branding in this case compliments it because "Twilight Zone" is a phrase in our collective conscience that describes something that's unusual, mysterious and foreboding. All of which accurately describes the ride and mood of Tower of Terror.

Unfortunately for DCA, Guardians of the Galaxy erases all of this. Now the building is a literal alien setting with no cultural significance or point of reference, that only exists to serve a very specific storyline. It's no longer an abandoned or haunted building, it's an active museum, on a subject few are fascinated to start with. Unlike The Twilight Zone, which simply sets the tone for anyone unfamiliar with the show, you need to be familiar with the characters of GotG to really appreciate the ride. I don't think that will make it as timeless or appealing 30 years from now.

And that's the last bit of unintended genius. Tower of Terror will never age. That it's supposed to be a long ago abandoned building only becomes truer with time. It's setting is simultaneously period and contemporary. So what if the furnishings and equipment inside is old? It's supposed to be! Rod Serling himself might as well be another one of the hotel's ghosts. One trapped forever to give expository dialog to anyone willing to listen.

And years from now people will still be lining up to hear his tale and scream when he goes silent.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
But that's why Tower of Terror would still be a great experience and idea, with or without the Twilight Zone branding. Everything else about the attraction was invented for this ride. Its the only IP ride that's also an original work. But the very specific IP branding in this case compliments it because "Twilight Zone" is a phrase in our collective conscience that describes something that's unusual, mysterious and foreboding. All of which accurately describes the ride and mood of Tower of Terror.
To an extent, I think you're right. They did an incredible job of creating a place that truly feels real in this attraction. However, I think part of what makes the Twilight Zone branding necessary for it to remain elite is the inclusion of Rod Serling. Serling's (Marc Silverman) narration is inherent to the experience, as it was for all Twilight Zone episodes. I know many people probably have never seen the Twilight Zone TV show, but I'll bet there are some who sought them out after riding Tower of Terror. And when they did, they heard Rod Serling's introduction and voiceover and were taken back to Tower of Terror. And for those of us who have seen and love the TV show, Serling's presence on this ride is what truly takes it from a great ride to an ELITE ride. You are IN the show when you're riding this.
As a Twilight Zone episode though, it's not very good.
I get where you're coming from, but when the focus is on "you being the star" of tonight's episode, the hypothetical audience's takeaways of "this episode" are not as important. I'm sure many of the characters in the Twilight Zone episodes wouldn't necessarily see the big picture takeaways from what happens to them; we the audience only see it because we're watching the whole thing and Rod Serling is spelling it out for us in the concluding voiceover. On Tower of Terror, we get the Rod Serling voiceover telling us, basically, "Well, you made it. Be careful." Maybe there is some lesson or takeaway, but as the characters who just escaped being trapped in the Twilight Zone, it's not for us to learn.

I'm getting a bit existential, I suppose, but the Twilight Zone-ness of Tower of Terror is something I will ALWAYS fight for. That's why I really hope Scarlett Johannsen feels the same way I do, because if they remove the TZ theming to tie it into her film, it will be a tragedy.
 

Animaniac93-98

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To an extent, I think you're right. They did an incredible job of creating a place that truly feels real in this attraction. However, I think part of what makes the Twilight Zone branding necessary for it to remain elite is the inclusion of Rod Serling. Serling's (Marc Silverman) narration is inherent to the experience, as it was for all Twilight Zone episodes. I know many people probably have never seen the Twilight Zone TV show, but I'll bet there are some who sought them out after riding Tower of Terror. And when they did, they heard Rod Serling's introduction and voiceover and were taken back to Tower of Terror. And for those of us who have seen and love the TV show, Serling's presence on this ride is what truly takes it from a great ride to an ELITE ride. You are IN the show when you're riding this.

I get where you're coming from, but when the focus is on "you being the star" of tonight's episode, the hypothetical audience's takeaways of "this episode" are not as important. I'm sure many of the characters in the Twilight Zone episodes wouldn't necessarily see the big picture takeaways from what happens to them; we the audience only see it because we're watching the whole thing and Rod Serling is spelling it out for us in the concluding voiceover. On Tower of Terror, we get the Rod Serling voiceover telling us, basically, "Well, you made it. Be careful." Maybe there is some lesson or takeaway, but as the characters who just escaped being trapped in the Twilight Zone, it's not for us to learn.

I'm getting a bit existential, I suppose, but the Twilight Zone-ness of Tower of Terror is something I will ALWAYS fight for. That's why I really hope Scarlett Johannsen feels the same way I do, because if they remove the TZ theming to tie it into her film, it will be a tragedy.

I guess I'm caught up on the idea that had Richard Matheson or one of the other writers had taken the premise of ToT, they would have elaborated on the idea of disappearing Hollywood elites and use that as a cautionary tale about how stars "disappear" once they become disposable, or how success can destroy people, but that's not fair to a theme park ride that can't do what a half hour of TV programming can in 5 minutes.

But yes, The Twilight Zone element adds to the ride IMO, regardless of how familiar you are with it. The ride being a literal vehicle to get people into the show (and importantly it's original incarnation) has value as well.

But I worry if Disney ever dropped the Twilight Zone branding it would be for a total retheme.
 

iamgroot61

Active Member
In the Parks
No
You may be wrong, or you may be right (Thanks, Billy.). Your observations are very well written, and I don't completely disagree, but... I think you're reading too much into it all. Disney attractions like HM and ToT (and even GOTG, Mission Breakout) apply to ride attractions what Disney does so well with cinema. They tell great stories and combine them with custom rides.

The HM rides in both US parks are extremely popular despite being materially somewhat different (particularly the queue areas and the set buildings. The same can be said for POTC. Is the popularity of these rides due to Disney tapping into some kind of Zeitgeist? Maybe. Frankly, Disney fans just love Disney and when they go to the parks they want to do most everything (unless they truly dislike a ride because of the motion or other reason).

Now, with regard to GOTG, Mission Breakout, I lived in Cali for a long time and visited the Anaheim parks on the regular (often multiple times per year) despite living about 7 hours' drive (Sacramento) for years. I "lived" through the evolution of those two parks from about 1998 to 2022. I LOVED ToT there (which was not exactly the same experience as at WDW). Rode that thing so many times I could anticipate each lift and drop. It got to where, although I loved the ride thrill, I became more focused on the reactions of first-time riders. I was always amazed at the preconceptions of riders and how many of them were genuinely terrified just prior to riding. When Disney announced they were re-theming that ride (which to me, felt like nothing more than trying to capitalize on the release of GOTG, V2), I was ed, frankly. I had the same opinion of this planned change that I have of the removal of Rivers of America, arguably the most iconic space in MK (and Disneyland). I thought 'Disney has more money than God, why on earth can't they build an original attraction?' Then I rode the ride. Once again, you may be wrong, or you may be right about the long-term popularity of the re-themed attraction (I'm leaning to the wrong side), but with the exception of the exterior of the building (which looks ridiculous), the interior queue is cool and the reprogrammed ride with its added visuals is a true home run. It's longer, more fun, and offers multiple experiences (think Star Tours 2.0, sort of). My overall opinion of Avengers Campus at DCA is that Disney has vastly under-done things, especially in comparison to the Star Wars areas. Marvel is a multi-billion-dollar franchise, possibly outperforming Star Wars in the box office these days, and Avengers Campus is a real disappointment. I haven't been there in a while and hear they are adding some attractions. I hope they give it its due.

In closing, to me, ToT is a quality ride experience with an interesting back story that integrates well with the Disney Experience.
 

Tom Morrow

Well-Known Member
I have often discussed how Tower of Terror is a perfect of example of how the best theme park attractions have layers to them, and how great theme park attractions can come telling guests what they want instead of giving them what they want.

It's not just a thrill ride with a creepy theme. It gets you to think about more than what is presented at face value. You have: the alure of abandoned places, the intrigue of golden age Hollywood, the idea of something once full of live and thriving becoming left and forgotten, the inherent "creepiness" of old, analog technology, interdimensional play, the very concept of a real life fear - falling in an elevator, being the basis for the thrills. Then there's the fact that it's an entirely original story that works just as well without the IP branding.

It isn't just an IP runthrough of a reinforcement of something riders are already familiar with. It confidently, yet subtly, gets you to ponder all of these things. This is why rides like Tower of Terror resonate so well with everyone, while something like Cosmic Rewind will never generate anything more than "well that was really fun". But Cosmic Rewind doesn't "stay with you" the way that rides like Tower of Terror do.
 

Club Cooloholic

Well-Known Member
Was thinking about this last night...

What makes Tower of Terror such a special attraction? Why do people love it despite the fact that it's not explicitly "Disney" and that the TV show it's based on is no longer the cultural touchstone it used to be? As good as the ride is, I think, like all great Disney works, it touches on something in the broader cultural sphere beyond the realm of theme parks.

The Haunted Mansion was a byproduct of the time it was built; the mid-century revival of gothic horror that was kickstarted by Shock Theater and Hammer's first Frankenstein movie. As good as it is, the ride is just the ultimate example of the archetype it's based on, and Victorian haunted hoses are dime a dozen in American pop culture.

There was no craze about haunted hotels in the 80s or 90s. Disney invented one themselves and in doing so created something that (intentionally or not) tied so many popular obsessions together. Faded glamour, tragic disasters, abandoned liminal spaces, paranormal investigations and more. All things that are even more popular today than in 1994 thanks to the widespread adoption of the internet and how much content has been made about those topics since. If The Hollywood Tower Hotel was a real building with no ride or formal backstory, people would still be fascinated with it, and probably invent their own mythology. The "golden age of Hollywood" is not the selling point because most people don't have a nostalgia for that time period or were raised on the retrospectives of the 70s and 80s that built the image of Hollywood's past that informed all of MGM Studios. What it does do is further sell the idea of a deep history, of great success that was suddenly and horrifically removed in an instant. That's a powerful idea that reaches across generations and gives the ride it's spellbinding aura.

The building itself is also a spectacular work of design. Comparing it with Haunted Mansion, even in the incarnations where you walk into the facade, it's obvious not everything that happens in the ride does so in that house. It's merely a set. Tower of Terror is one of the few Disney rides you can view from all angles and is so huge that even accounting for the forced perspective and allegedly missing corridors, it still creates the suspension of disbelief that lets audiences believe there's so much more inside than there really is. How many people have believed the urban myth about other things being in there besides the ride? Or have wished to explore more than where the elevator takes you and spend a night in one of its rooms or lounge at the Tip Top Club? Few theme park rides reach this level of curiosity beyond the thrills they give to riders.

As a Twilight Zone episode though, it's not very good. There's no real twist to the premise, no allegory or parable about a broader theme or subject, the scare of the drop is given away before we go inside etc. There's an episode called "Five Characters In Search of an Exit", but that's not the focus of the five elevator passengers in the ride, and we never learn anything more about them or their circumstance. It's just another example of Eisner-era Disney's fascination and love of backstories.

But that's why Tower of Terror would still be a great experience and idea, with or without the Twilight Zone branding. Everything else about the attraction was invented for this ride. Its the only IP ride that's also an original work. But the very specific IP branding in this case compliments it because "Twilight Zone" is a phrase in our collective conscience that describes something that's unusual, mysterious and foreboding. All of which accurately describes the ride and mood of Tower of Terror.

Unfortunately for DCA, Guardians of the Galaxy erases all of this. Now the building is a literal alien setting with no cultural significance or point of reference, that only exists to serve a very specific storyline. It's no longer an abandoned or haunted building, it's an active museum, on a subject few are fascinated to start with. Unlike The Twilight Zone, which simply sets the tone for anyone unfamiliar with the show, you need to be familiar with the characters of GotG to really appreciate the ride. I don't think that will make it as timeless or appealing 30 years from now.

And that's the last bit of unintended genius. Tower of Terror will never age. That it's supposed to be a long ago abandoned building only becomes truer with time. It's setting is simultaneously period and contemporary. So what if the furnishings and equipment inside is old? It's supposed to be! Rod Serling himself might as well be another one of the hotel's ghosts. One trapped forever to give expository dialog to anyone willing to listen.

And years from now people will still be lining up to hear his tale and scream when he goes silent.
Some really good points
I didn't like the DL Guardians revamp as much as the original. It was fun, but kinda chaotic. And you are absolutely right, not as universally interesting, nor as timeless. Its going to feel as dated as the Ellen Energy ride in about 15 years, whereas the OG is just timeless.
 

TalkToEthan

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Why do people love it(Tower of Terror)despite the fact that it's not explicitly "Disney" and that the TV show it's based on is no longer the cultural touchstone it used to be?

Great topic and great write up…….

But I just want to challenge your opening above because you wrote that as if with a loaded presumption——one I think is off.

I believe the reverse presumption is true:
one large reason people love it is because it’s not “Disney” branded or used from widely known source material.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Original Poster
Great topic and great write up…….

But I just want to challenge your opening above because you wrote that as if with a loaded presumption——one I think is off.

I did intentionally write it that way because so much of the modern Disney theme park experience revolves around Disney movie IP and the company and its fanbase insists that's what the guests want.

Tower of Terror is proof that isn't always true
 

Chef Mickey

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Just look at the scale or Tower or Terror. The show building itself is something we really don’t see anymore.

The queue is amazing, the theme, and the ride itself never disappoints. Unlimited re-rideability.

It’s the embodiment of what Disney used to be and what they can do if they want to do it.

Almost sad we have it to compare newer attractions when it’s so obvious they fall short of a ride opened over 30 years ago.
 

The Empress Lilly

Well-Known Member
Just look at the scale or Tower or Terror. The show building itself is something we really don’t see anymore.
Yes, another stroke of genius of ToT is that it is a rare example of the attraction not trying to hide its showbuilding, but making it an integral part of the show and of the park.

Everest is another modern example.

WDSP and DCA ToT (both before and after Guardian) try but don't really succeed.
 

Goofyernmost

Well-Known Member
I did intentionally write it that way because so much of the modern Disney theme park experience revolves around Disney movie IP and the company and its fanbase insists that's what the guests want.

Tower of Terror is proof that isn't always true
When I first went to the MK, one of my first attractions was 20K leagues. I never saw the movie, still haven't, but enjoyed and miss the attraction even 40 years from my first visit. Peter Pan was not an original Disney idea either, it was Disney's adaptation of it. Snow White is another along with Cinderella and Splash Mtn. and I'm sure others. The whole idea that it has to be an original creation is preposterous, unnecessary and way to limiting in scope and ability to adapt to a theme park. And what about the Fan favorite, one Mary Poppins. Disney didn't create the idea, they just adapted it.
 

ChrisFL

Premium Member
I agree with most of the sentiment.

Basically Tower of Terror works like Everest works as far as the whole build-up starts really far away from the actual attraction.

The WDW ToT is the FULL package and sadly the DCA version didn't compare, it just felt much cheaper with a lot of shortcuts made. GOTG is a fun replacement but I HATE how the building looks now at DCA. I would actually have preferred a Doctor Strange themed Sanctum attraction, but GOTG is more popular/sells more merch.

Anyway back to the WDW ToT, the hotel lobby, Rod Serling (and the brilliant voice actor who re-created how he sounded), on the TV, the classic music, the lightning effects, the boiler room, and then....the one part that ABSOLUTELY BLEW ME AWAY the first time I rode it....the 5th dimension room.

That is what makes this version far superior to any others. I first rode it around 1995 or 1996 having no idea what it was going to be like besides the TV commercials...not only was the elevator moving FORWARD but it was a very surreal environment. The lighting changes, the sound of the "doorway" opening up with Rod Serling's haunting narration overhead....ALL of this before the actual "thrill ride" really even starts, I didn't even mention the hallway scene with the ghosts!

I know someday it will probably get the Twilight Zone theming removed and that will be a very sad day.
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Yes, another stroke of genius of ToT is that it is a rare example of the attraction not trying to hide its showbuilding, but making it an integral part of the show and of the park.

Everest is another modern example.

WDSP and DCA ToT (both before and after Guardian) try but don't really succeed.
I’d argue even the attempt at an epic attraction in Rise of the Resistance fell flat. You can’t even really tell what building houses the attraction, so there is nothing imposing or cool about it.

Disney would say they folded it into the landscape, but it was probably cheaper to get 2 for 1 by cheating out on a show building and doing some scenery.
 

ChrisFL

Premium Member
I’d argue even the attempt at an epic attraction in Rise of the Resistance fell flat. You can’t even really tell what building houses the attraction, so there is nothing imposing or cool about it.

Disney would say they folded it into the landscape, but it was probably cheaper to get 2 for 1 by cheating out on a show building and doing some scenery.

Since you're supposed to be on an imperial star destroyer in space (for the main portion of the attraction), a bit difficult to do
 

Chef Mickey

Well-Known Member
Since you're supposed to be on an imperial star destroyer in space (for the main portion of the attraction), a bit difficult to do
Come on, it could be so much better. It’s invisible.

You could make a massive planet show building work and add something in the pre-show story to make it make sense.
 

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