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News The Plaza Restaurant Goes Behind Refurbishment Walls at Magic Kingdom
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TheCoasterNerd
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Yet another situation where Disneyland does it better. During its current Main Street refurbs, there's at least themed scrim that looks like the building it's hiding. Why can't WDW do that? It's such a simple thing to do...Photos from today:
JoeCamel
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Ayla
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So this was a surprise refurb they knew nothing about until it happened so they weren't prepared? I doubt it.
MagicHappens1971
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The printed scrims always take several days to show up after the initial scrim went up.
wedenterprises
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Yet another situation where people freak out before something has even started. Most people wait and see. Why can't you do that? It's such a simple thing to do...
Brian
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It's likely ready, but it takes a good amount of time to erect the scaffolding, put up the blank scrim and then put up the printed scrim. Most of the time that cannot be done all in one night due to limited hours the area is clear of guests.
TheCoasterNerd
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Disneylands printed scrim showed up day of. Again, they did it better in that case as there wasn't a single day where the scrims were plain like they are today
Brian
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There are instances in which Disneyland is able to do all the work, including scaffolding and scrims, all in one night. This is heavily dependent upon the time the area is cleared to do work of this nature (once guests leave), and when the area must be show ready. They also have an advantage over Magic Kingdom in that many of their Main Street buildings are smaller, requiring less time to complete the work.
That said, Disneyland has utilized printed scrims for many years now, but there have been instances in which they cannot get the printed scrim up in time for the area to open to guests. Take the 2022 refurbishment of Crystal Arcade facade for example:
There are many ways in which Disneyland is superior in its operations to Walt Disney World, but printed scrims on Main Street buildings is not one of them.
TrainsOfDisney
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So is it not bad show if it only lasts a few days?
There certainly is the capability of putting it up the same night the plain scrim goes up, if it’s worth it or not for a day(s) of bad show is what is up for debate.
There certainly is the capability of putting it up the same night the plain scrim goes up, if it’s worth it or not for a day(s) of bad show is what is up for debate.
Brian
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Would it be better show to have construction crews and vehicles operating while guests are still on Main Street so they could have the printed scrim up by the time guests start taking to the area again in a few hours?
These crews take to Main Street within seconds of the announcement over the loudspeakers that the park is clear of guests. They are staged and ready to go behind the gates just waiting for the go-ahead. Suggesting that they simply lack the will to get the job done in one night is laughable.
Brian
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Also, here's Sleeping Beauty Castle at Disneyland, the most Instagrammed building in the world, the very heart of Disneyland, with its upper portions covered in scaffolding.
Surely if they just had the will they could have gotten all the scaffolding and scrims down in time for the guests arriving the following day! /s
Oh, and here's the Matterhorn under construction without a scrim. I guess Walt didn't care about show either! /s
Surely if they just had the will they could have gotten all the scaffolding and scrims down in time for the guests arriving the following day! /s
Oh, and here's the Matterhorn under construction without a scrim. I guess Walt didn't care about show either! /s
TrainsOfDisney
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Most likely it would have been possible. Expensive, but possible.
Brian
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Sure, open the park an hour or two late, close it and hour or two early the previous night, and tell the guy on the scaffolding 80+ feet up working in dark and dangerous conditions that you don't want to look at scrims or scaffolding the next day and he should hurry up.
Who cares if he wants to get home safely to his family in the morning? It's Sally's first visit to Disneyland tomorrow and she shouldn't have to see construction! Chop chop!
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TrainsOfDisney
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I never suggested compromising safety. Just that it’s possible if you want to spend the money.
I’m not saying Disney should spend the money, that’s a different debate.
Brian
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Just like on the Main Street buildings on both coasts, working from a height like on the scaffolding of the castle requires extensive prep work to scale up, work from, and scale back down safely. Even more so when it comes to erecting or dismantling scaffolding. They also can't just plop down the scaffolding wherever they feel like it. These are old buildings which may not have the structural integrity to support scaffolding in certain areas, and they're also ornately decorated, meaning you can't just erect it on/near certain design elements.
All of this to say that it takes a while to get the job done safely and right. If it means a couple days of bad show, so be it. Can they shave a little time off by hiring more workers? Maybe. But the more workers you have, the less efficient you become as people start getting in each other's way.
