The List of All The New Stuff!

[Michael72688]

Re: Re: The List of All The New Stuff!

Originally posted by SorcererMickey
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't flicks fun fair another group of strandard midway attractions themed to Bugs Life? If it is what I think it is, I hope to god that it does NOT Get put into the AK... I mean, they already have Dinorama or whatever that eyesore is called ..

Blah

first of all it's not an eyesore, it has one ride that is one of my favorite from all of WDW, it keeps people in the park longer, and I'm sorry but everytime I was there I never heard anyone say it was an eyesore

 

[Walter]

Originally posted by FutureCEO
Make a big pavilvion of old Horizons, WoM and if changed SE.

That would be awesome. They would never do it, but it would be great. I don't think that they should demolish TT, though. And, as long as they were to keep M:S and TT, I don't think that they would "Pour out" of the park.

 

[Lee]

An Indiana Jones ride is not even on the radar for MGM.

Remember, even if they wanted to do it, G. Lucas has final say on where and how the Indy characters are used. Disney has to go through him to get approval, which is not likely for 2 reasons.

1. Lucas has wanted to update Star Tours for quite a while now, but Disney has not been willing to pay for the upgrade to the systems. Lucas ain't happy with that.

2. Lucas wanted to put the Indy ride in at WDW years ago, but insisted that it go next to the stunt show. This meant the removal of Backlot Express, which Disney refused to do. Lucas ain't happy with that either.

Until Disney does some serious kissing up at Lucasfilm, forget Indy at WDW. I'd like to see it as much as anyone....but it ain't likely.

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by Lee
An Indiana Jones ride is not even on the radar for MGM.

Remember, even if they wanted to do it, G. Lucas has final say on where and how the Indy characters are used. Disney has to go through him to get approval, which is not likely for 2 reasons.

1. Lucas has wanted to update Star Tours for quite a while now, but Disney has not been willing to pay for the upgrade to the systems. Lucas ain't happy with that.

2. Lucas wanted to put the Indy ride in at WDW years ago, but insisted that it go next to the stunt show. This meant the removal of Backlot Express, which Disney refused to do. Lucas ain't happy with that either.

Until Disney does some serious kissing up at Lucasfilm, forget Indy at WDW. I'd like to see it as much as anyone....but it ain't likely.

Also don't forget...now they're adding Stitch to AE...he can't be too happy with that either. I agree, with you lee there won't be an Indi ride for awhile at wdw. Maybe this will force Disney to get a little creative with the indi show...which has gotten real OLD.

:lookaroun

 

[Timothy W.]

People, people,
We are getting an Indy rollercoaster, like Paris, but longer with more theming and inside dark elements like the new Tokyo Indy coaster that is going in 2005/2006. MGM's Indy coaster will also compete with the new Mummy coaster that opens up in Universal.
Just wait and see. Disney has the right to cancel out an Indy Stunt show and replace it with another Indy attraction that has already been approved by Lucas for Tokyo. He is not going to stand in the way of this, if anything he is encouraging it.

 

[X2CommNavISTC]

Ok, well say we do get it, it wont be until after 2005, with Indy 4 coming out on July 1st 2005, not to mention they've already have plans for the Stunt show to help push the movie. Its basically the equvilent of Star Wars weekends, except it would be every day, up until about a month or so after the movie is released.

 

[Mag1575]

They can't change Spaceship Earth! It's the signature ride at Epcot. I want Epcot to remain as the educational theme park. That's what I enjoy most about Future World and World Showcase.

Mark

 

[Lee]

Originally posted by Timothy W.
People, people,
We are getting an Indy rollercoaster, like Paris, but longer with more theming and inside dark elements like the new Tokyo Indy coaster that is going in 2005/2006.

Ok, two things:

1. What are your sources on this? Mine say something totally opposite.

2. The new coaster at DisneySea, while going near the Indy ride in the Lost River Delta area, will not have an Indy theme. Sure, it looks like Temple of Peril, but Indy (as of now) will not be part of this ride.

 

[Michael72688]

Originally posted by Mag1575
They can't change Spaceship Earth! It's the signature ride at Epcot. I want Epcot to remain as the educational theme park. That's what I enjoy most about Future World and World Showcase.

Mark

This is why Epcot is not fun

 

[AndyMagic]

Originally posted by Lee
An Indiana Jones ride is not even on the radar for MGM.

Remember, even if they wanted to do it, G. Lucas has final say on where and how the Indy characters are used. Disney has to go through him to get approval, which is not likely for 2 reasons.

1. Lucas has wanted to update Star Tours for quite a while now, but Disney has not been willing to pay for the upgrade to the systems. Lucas ain't happy with that.

2. Lucas wanted to put the Indy ride in at WDW years ago, but insisted that it go next to the stunt show. This meant the removal of Backlot Express, which Disney refused to do. Lucas ain't happy with that either.

Until Disney does some serious kissing up at Lucasfilm, forget Indy at WDW. I'd like to see it as much as anyone....but it ain't likely.

If any of that were true, then DisneySea wouldn't have built Indy Adventure in 2002. I doubt this one year made that big a difference. This whole, "Lucas is ed at Disney" has been a huge rumor that refuses to die and I have never heard anything concrete on the matter. The fact is, MGM won't have two stunt shows and if they do, it wouldn't be a very smart choice. Very few people would be willing to spend over two hours total in two different stunt shows.

 

[Lee]

There is a bit of a difference here.

Lucas had no problem OKing Temple of the Crystal Skull at Disney Sea, because they built it just like he wanted it. He is on much better terms with OLC than Disney, as far as quality and upkeep go.

As for the tension between Lucas and Disney, I heard this again not 2 weeks ago from a source at Disney (not a park CM, either).

This same source said that there were no immediate plans to replace the stunt show anytime soon. It looks like at least 2005, when the motor stunt show opens, before they will address the Indy show situation. IF they decided to replace it, the replacement would not open until 2008/2009, whatever it turns out to be.

 

[SorcererMickey]

Re: Re: Re: The List of All The New Stuff!

Originally posted by Michael72688
first of all it's not an eyesore, it has one ride that is one of my favorite from all of WDW, it keeps people in the park longer, and I'm sorry but everytime I was there I never heard anyone say it was an eyesore

I'm sure there are plenty of people that like it.. Personally, I don't think it fits. It's a midway carnival in the middle of a great park. Come on.. Carnie games at WDW?? Standard rides (other than primevil hurl) that my daughter and I can ride on at the local amusement park?? How cheap can disney get?

 

[Dr Albert Falls]

I'm not counting on an Indy clone at WDW because Dinosaur already exists, but....

I wonder how different the ride would feel if they simply made a mirror image of the track layout-- rather than an exact duplicate.

(DL's Indy and WDW's Dinosaur have the exact same track route--- yes, the DL version has knocked out some walls and floors to create an open cavern-- but its still the same thing) Anyone know if Tokyo's Indy ride also shares the same track route?

 

[jwbeck3]

What does Lucas say about the redo of AE, because he was involved in the ride so........

 

[Lee]

Originally posted by Dr Albert Falls
Anyone know if Tokyo's Indy ride also shares the same track route?

About 90% the same, I hear.

As for Lucas and AE, he wes really not all that involved.

He was named executive producer of the attraction, but only attended a few meetings, and offered little input. He was busy with Indy at DL at that time, and since it featured one of his best characters, it was his priority. However, Lucas was the one to convince Eisner not to use the monster from "Alien" in the show.
I doubt he cares too much what happens to AE.

 

[CSOM]

Originally posted by Michael72688
This is why Epcot is not fun

I don't even know why I'm bothering here, but anyway :hammer:

It may not be fun to you and people of your mindset, but it is a lot of fun for a lot of people. There is a reason it is where it is on the attendance lists (ahead of IOA, US, Cedar Point any Six Flags) and #1 in the customer value lists. There are things to make you think, make you emotional, great shows, great restaurants, etc. If you were to poll people on here, I really think Epcot would rival MK for the favorite park at WDW (yes, ahead of the Studios) and it would've been a stronger vote from me if Horizons, WoM, and the origianl JII was still there instead of M:S, TT, and JIYI. Great rides, great re-ridability instead of a ride that makes me sick :hurl: (kind of), one that breaks down often, and one that plain is not good.....

But go ahead and go to IOA or hop in line for RnRC and the rest of us will enjoy SSE and Maelstrom a few more times.

 

[ImagineerFan04]

Originally posted by Lee
An Indiana Jones ride is not even on the radar for MGM.

Remember, even if they wanted to do it, G. Lucas has final say on where and how the Indy characters are used. Disney has to go through him to get approval, which is not likely for 2 reasons.

1. Lucas has wanted to update Star Tours for quite a while now, but Disney has not been willing to pay for the upgrade to the systems. Lucas ain't happy with that.

2. Lucas wanted to put the Indy ride in at WDW years ago, but insisted that it go next to the stunt show. This meant the removal of Backlot Express, which Disney refused to do. Lucas ain't happy with that either.

Until Disney does some serious kissing up at Lucasfilm, forget Indy at WDW. I'd like to see it as much as anyone....but it ain't likely.

Isnt Eisner so post to retire in 2006? And there not going to close the indy stunt show until the Moter in Action show is finished.

You know this could be the start of something big with Indy 4 coming out in 2005 and a rumored update to the Indy stunt show to incorperate it into the new film. And somebody said that if we get an Indy Ride it won't be until 2008/2009 which is kinda reasonable.

late 2004 or early 2005 Auto stunt show opens
mid 2005 Indy 4 is open in theaters
late 2005 early 2006 Indy stunt show gets an update
2008/2009 Indy Adventure

i can see this happen.It seems resonable.how long do you think it will take to build an Iny Adventure. I think it coud take about 2 years.With build a new building and stuff.

I go with my gut instinct. from they day i heard about the rumored plans for Project Gemini I thought they where going to build some of the attractions like sorin and SSE:Time Racer.
By the why i still think Beastly Kingdom will be built in a few years. I think by the tenth birthday.

 

[X2CommNavISTC]

It would take way longer than two years.

Mainly because they have to tear down the back areas, rip out the ground with all the gaslines and other various things for the show, then theres the stadium and the set peices theyd have to remove. Not to mention, the Adventure Outpost might end up in the way, so they might have to remove that for the time being. Then theres the tank from the last Crusade by the exit they have to pull out....

 

[Shaman]

Originally posted by AndyMagic
Very few people would be willing to spend over two hours total in two different stunt shows.

I'll play devil's advocate for a bit.....

If they were both great shows....why wouldn't people be willing to see them???

In fact why is it such a big issue that two "stunt" shows inhabit one park...it is the common Disney trend to add the similar in the same park...look at Aladdin Carpets, Astro Orbiter, Dumbo......all in one park, how about the MK "mountains"....why would people be willing to spend the time riding each? If you ask me...my point is very similar to those who want this Indi ride at The Studios....while CTX (or Dino...which ever you prefer) is at AK. :animwink:

Why...because they are each different...(except the different Dumbo versions). So if they are different...why not see each...I would get worried if I see Indi in the Auto Stunt Show...:lol:

All they have to do is change the format of the Indi Show, make it completely NEW, remove "stunt" from the title if the word will also appear on the Auto Stunt Show title....and there you go.....

Since Disney's current "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality, the Indi show will be around for a while (thats not to say we won't see new versions of the show in the future)...but then again this is all just my opinion. I'm all for new things...just original new pushing the envelope type of things......

Ok....I'm done now......:wave:

 

[X2CommNavISTC]

Originally posted by objr
I'll play devil's advocate for a bit.....

...I would get worried if I see Ind in the Auto Stunt Show...:lol:

Quick note, his nickname is spelled with a "y" not an "i" Its INDY! INDY INDY INDY! Now back to my reply.

It wouldn't happen considering that the Auto Show basically a direct port from Paris and they wouldnt have enough room to do it but two of the biggest sequences in the Indy trilogy involved a chase scene, "Desert Chase" from Raiders, and "Belly of the Steel Beast" from Last Crusade. It'd kick ______ to see those two put in the show. Im a diehard and well known regular at the Indy show but, if they were to put one of those scenes into the auto show, they could get rid of the Indy's stunt show and I wouldn't have one problem with it.