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The Land balloons
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bethymouse
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In September they were not moving.
The Empress Lilly
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Why are the moving balloons gone? Good question.
And why is the handpainted ceiling gone? The ceiling represented the sky, abtracted. The way the earth was (and is) represented, abstracted, in the mosaic along the entrance.
And why are the murals gone?
And why is etc etc
And why is the handpainted ceiling gone? The ceiling represented the sky, abtracted. The way the earth was (and is) represented, abstracted, in the mosaic along the entrance.
And why are the murals gone?
And why is etc etc
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I get the point 
--so many things have changed...but the balloons are surely not gone as we all know and I guess it's frustrating that they don't move because it seems like such a simple thing to get back. ..with just that spark?
;-)
and I do miss the paintings..and Kitchen Kabaret, and the old food stands....things that are truly gone
--so many things have changed...but the balloons are surely not gone as we all know and I guess it's frustrating that they don't move because it seems like such a simple thing to get back. ..with just that spark?;-)
and I do miss the paintings..and Kitchen Kabaret, and the old food stands....things that are truly gone
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copcarguyp71
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...aaaand that is what they count on at TDO. Until one day in a rush it all comes to you, you begin to see things gone, not working or diminished one after another after another. You realize this has been done so slowly over many years and your mind has been so drunk on pixie dust that you failed to identify them as they happened. This past trip my head was spinning. After three trips in four years I guess the little voice in the back of my head started to talk loudly enough and then the curtain began to be pulled back and I saw the sad old greedy man behind the curtain.
In closing I will state as always that this makes me sad not happy to report and every time I think of WDW I think of what could be again someday if some people with a true love of the parks who care to actually walk through them once in a while are put in charge. But for now CEO's and board members seem to inadvertently be syphoning the magic away from the parks in lieu of what they see as making sense according to the book of all things Wall Street.
Goofyernmost
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I wouldn't call it pixie dust exactly. I was there last January and I couldn't begin to tell you if they were working or not. Why? Because that isn't my focus at that pavilion. I don't not see them because I have pixie dust in my eyes, it is because it was a nice, but unimportant part of an otherwise huge experience. I make no effort to see what is working when I go so I don't notice if it's working when I go back. It's that simple. It's to bad when TDO nickels and dimes attractions because I will agree, it is the overall image that you are left with. But, it is time to stop accusing people of being brain washed or pixie dusted because not everything is a world changing or in this case, story changing happening. It's about time to grow up and realize that even though a place like WDW is designed to take us out of the real world, it, unfortunately, is located deep within the real world and a lot of it just finds it's way in. Like it or not this is not 1955, 1972 or 1983. Things are different and all we are going to get from the angst of comparison are ulcers.
copcarguyp71
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It is not about "growing up" for me as much as it is seeing diminished value for our vacation dollar...which, now that I think about it I am pretty sure is the grown up way of looking at it...and since when is WDW supposed to be about growing up anyway?
It is about ROI (return on investment) of my dollar. Costs of entry, dining plans, lodging, souvenirs all continue to rise but small pieces of magic continue to be slowly taken away. The straw has come that broke the back of our household.
It is about ROI (return on investment) of my dollar. Costs of entry, dining plans, lodging, souvenirs all continue to rise but small pieces of magic continue to be slowly taken away. The straw has come that broke the back of our household.
Goofyernmost
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Yes, I understand that but, even though I want to be a kid and do my best to be one when I am there, I am still in an adult body and therefore look at the world through adult eyes when formulating my opinions. I'm not talking about reacting to my emotions during a Disney visit that puts me back in childhood, it's after when I evaluate what I have experienced and determined what I feel is good or bad.
As far as ROI, as that adult that has to pay for everything I ever get to do, I find that I would be hard pressed to find anything else in the line of entertainment that is a better value regardless of balloons that go up and down or not. I read people complaining about parking fees, when they can not even come close to identifying another entertainment experience that lasts as long and creates as much variety of experience as a Disney Park for the price that they charged to park one's car.
Perspective is what is needed. Where else is anyone going to find that much for that price, whatever it might be. But, it's way more expensive then it used to be! Yup, it is! My first brand new Buick cost me $3500.00. Multiply that by at least 10 times now and what do I have. An encased vehicle with four tires, steering wheel and seats that gets me to exactly the same places that my first car did. Do I think about it as ROI? Does anyone think of it as a return on investment when it does the same thing it used to for 10 times more? No because we live in today and that is what it costs us to have transportation. We don't even comment on it. Why? Because we know that we either pay it or go without.
ROI is a business term used to determine if whatever I spend will give me back my money plus profit. ROI does not now and never will apply to an experience in a Theme Park. First off, it isn't an investment, it is an expense. Cost of a life will lived. There cannot be any price tag on that except one that we place on it emotionally as well as fiscally. If we still are willing to pay that price for what we are getting then it is a solid expenditure. If not, and it isn't a life necessity, then we can easily chose not to incur the expense because it isn't worth it.
Disney does things still that create the magic to many. As many as before? That I don't know because I never kept a log, but, I do know that our attitude is what makes the magic not this or that mechanical thing in motion. Let's take the entrance fee for example. A single day, which very few of us ever use, is around $100.00. Now let's think real hard and see if we can come up with any other thing that is usually open and available to us for at least 12 hours. That contains parades, fireworks, street entertainment, shows, attractions, music, etc. that we can get for that same money, all in a safe, clean, bright and friendly location.
copcarguyp71
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We will have to agree to disagree. Our vacation dollar (in our household) is worked for entirely too hard for to see diminished quality (my own personal feelings of course) for my vacation dollar so I personally see it as an investment in our enjoyment together as a family. We can argue semantics all day long but we as a family feel that the expense has not been concurrent with the overall experience we received for dollar paid. I am not asking you to submit to my opinion (I think too many people do that on this forum) but rather offering a counterpoint that is relevant to our own feelings where our vacation experience is concerned.
Goofyernmost
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No problem there, my friend, that is what I am doing as well.
Omnispace
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Not everything has to be obvious and in-your-face. It's subtle details like this that can be the most enjoyable at times.
Exactly! I wasn't being sarcastic if it came across that way - I did find it charming, relaxing and sweet to see the balloons move. That charm that Disney can do so simply and so well.
luv
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I think you're wrong about me being too pixie dusted.
I'm not extremely observant and I don't notice everything. I did notice that I didn't like the Land pavilion as much as I used to, but I had no idea why. When people remind of what had disappeared, I think, "Oh, yes! That's it!" But I don't notice everything.
I like some things and don't like others. Some things irk me, some don't. If I like something, I'm blinded by pixie dust. If I don't, I hate Disney. It seems that a person cannot win on these boards, so I'm just going to like what I like, not like what I don't...and not worry too much about whether or not you or anyone else shares the opinion.
So sue me.
copcarguyp71
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I meant the "you" figuratively and not literally directed at you. Didn't mean to come off accusational as it seems you and I see eye to eye on a great many opinions...sorry if it came off that way. Re read it with that tone and I think you will get the jist of my message. Feel free to message me if you feel I have slighted you in any way.
luv
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Lol, I'm just so accustomed to this stuff...and So sick of it, lol...and I go and lash out at someone who didn't deserve it.
I apologize. Mea culpa. And, as said in my best six year old voice, "Sooor-ree."
copcarguyp71
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ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Strictly a cost savings action. WDI giveth, TDO taketh away! Welcome to Walt Disney's Diminished World! It is the same as the way Walt Disney Budgeteering has turned fountains into planters all across the property.
Pathetic!
Digusting and most of these were operational in 2012, Just another way of Disney showing contempt for it's guests as in we are too stupid to notice that fountains now are used as planters.