The Imagineering Vault - Attractions That Were Never Built

IAmNotAHufflepuff

Well-Known Member
For Russia, I wouldn't really emphasize the tundra nation aspect, because I'd rather base it--like the original concept--on the Red Square with St. Basil's cathedral.

But for Brazil--well, if you remember my "Disney's Animal Kingdom: A New Generation" (which is NOT dead--I will be adding on to the thread in the future), I did have plans for a South American area. And much like how Africa serves as a spiritual successor to the canned Equatorial Africa pavilion, my South America area will serve as a successor to a non-existent Brazil pavilion.

Nice! And for Russia...I would definitely base it on St. Basal's Cathedral, I was more thinking of having it take place in the winter time and add a slight snow element.

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I have to agree with @spacemt354 on this one. Russia has winter for I think is about eight or nine months a year. It would add some character to the pavilion to just add those little snowy details here and there.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
I have to agree with @spacemt354 on this one. Russia has winter for I think is about eight or nine months a year. It would add some character to the pavilion to just add those little snowy details here and there.
That was my thought...I think I used the word tundra earlier and that may have been confusing because I was just meaning a little snow covering to add to the aesthetic rather than focusing on the barren frozen landscapes.

Also I will be soon posting Part 4 (and maybe 5) about all the attractions for the current Epcot World Showcase Pavilions that never came to be. Stay tuned!
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
Concept 2: The World Showcase That Never Was...(Part 4)

United Kingdom Pavilion

Today, the UK Pavilion is famous for the Rose and Crown Pub and the British Revolution cover band playing the Beatles and other rock classics. However, when originally planned, the pavilion would have been so much more. A Thames River boat ride would have taken guests past historic sites in London such as Big Ben and Parliament down the famous river.
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In addition, as you can see from the concept art below, the original design was slightly different. The plans called for a second Crystal Palace restaurant to be included in the pavilion. It would have been interesting to see how that would have blended in.
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Germany Pavilion
The Rhine River boat cruise would have taken guests on a quiet tour of the countryside and explored the German culture much like the Mexico and (cough...old Norway boat ride...cough) did as well.
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In fact, there wasn't much structural difference between the pavilion that is there today and what would have been. On the left you have the entrance to the Biergarten but on the right, instead of having a seating area for the small pretzel shop, there would have been the entrance to the boat ride. Next time you go to Germany look for the old entranceway, it's pretty cool to think about what could have been!
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Japan Pavilion

Japan has a lot of untapped potential especially since there have been two grand attractions planned for the pavilion but neither of them have come true. There were plans to develop a Bullet Train type simulator attraction, which would have taken guests along on a high speed train through the nation.
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In addition, there was a towering Mt. Fuji roller coaster proposal, but much like the Switzerland Pavilion, unless that attraction was built as well, I fear the mountain would dwarf all of the other pavilions and look out of place. I like how World Showcase keeps all of the peaks of the pavilions at relatively the same height. I believe the tallest is the St. Mark's Square tower in Italy at 81 feet tall. But these mountains like the ones proposed for Japan and Switzerland would have been 150+ feet tall.
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Still though, it's interesting to see how much was planned for World Showcase but hasn't become reality. Granted, at WDI they don't throw away ideas...so maybe some day these will come true.

For Session 5 of The Creator Games Competition, the task was to design an attraction for a World Showcase Pavilion, and with 11 people competing at the time, each person had to choose a different pavilion and we got some great ideas for attractions. So the question at the end of this segment is...

If you could add an attraction to World Showcase...what would you add? And where? Comment and discuss below!

 

orlando678-

Well-Known Member
I'd love to see a British Literature dark ride, Italian Gondolas boat ride through Venice with Carnaval etc., Canada river rapids, London red bus ride and Chinese rickshaw dark ride. There are so many options which could be awesome. I hope Disney will see that one day, because Frozen for example doesnt have the same effect.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
I'd love to see a British Literature dark ride, Italian Gondolas boat ride through Venice with Carnaval etc., Canada river rapids, London red bus ride and Chinese rickshaw dark ride. There are so many options which could be awesome. I hope Disney will see that one day, because Frozen for example doesnt have the same effect.
Completely agree! There's so much potential (and potential space too) it's a shame that it's not being used.

New content coming soon!
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
Concept 3: The Future World That Never Was... (Part 1)

I will mostly likely/absolutely do a whole segment on Epcot (the city) but for now we will just focus on Future World after it was decided that Walt's concept for a city wouldn't become a reality. Epcot went through numerous changes throughout the years which means there are many plans and ideas that never came to be. Here's a few of my favorites below!

Epcot Center Concept Art 1975
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Just seven years before the opening of Epcot Center on October 1, 1982 - Future World looked drastically different. While still maintaining the idea of a central hub in "Communicore" the lands were dispersed in a fashion that still resembled the city in a sense. Over the next few years the concept of "pavilions" based on certain realms of science, earth, and future well being came into focus.
The Living Seas (1978)
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Original WED design of The Living Seas in 1978 (located where The Land Pavilion is today)
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Here's a description of the original intention of the pavilion and attractions:

The Seas -- Guests will board the clipper ship, "Spirit of Mankind," to sail through moments of peril and triumph with seven legendary mariners ... the great explorers who charted the seas for civilization. In another adventure, Poseidon the Sea Lord will challenge visitors to journey through ocean depths ... from the Continental Shelf to the Great Coral Reef. Finally arriving at "Sea Base Alpha," guests will experience an authentic ocean environment with live marine life, an undersea restaurant, and a showcase of oceanographic exhibits and displays.

The Space Pavilion (1978)
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1978 Space Pavilion WED Concept Art
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Here's the description for the unrealized pavilion:
Space -- A huge, interstellar "Space Vehicle" will transport passengers to the outer frontiers of the universe, highlighting man's efforts to reach out to the stars around him ... from the early pioneers who looked and wondered ... to modern-day space travelers and their triumphs ... to the challenges and possibilities of future space technology and exploration.

This concept unfortunately was tossed and overhauled, eventually leading to Horizons, and what we have today...Mission:SPACE.

Epcot Center - Update 1979
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By this point in the very fluctuating state of Epcot, the Space and Sea Pavilions were scrapped - but in this edition of the park, there are two pavilions that we haven't touched on that never made it off the drawing board.

Science and Invention Pavilion

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For a brief time (and seen in the 1979 Epcot park concept art, the Science and Invention Pavilion took the spot of the Space Pavilion and the future spot of Horizons and Mission: SPACE.

Also of note - Century 3 - in the concept art above (it's where The Living Seas is today) was also a planned pavilion that was tossed.

The Life and Health Pavilion
(eventually becomes the Wonders of Life Pavilion)
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On the TAFI Brainstorming Thread - I went into a lot of detail about the original Life and Health Pavilion. I'll provide the link here, but essentially the dark ride The Incredible Journey Within was morphed into Body Wars and the Wonders of Life Building as a whole...keeping the same concept of health, but on a more reduced budget that was planned below.
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Life and Health Pavilion Concept Art

While Epcot never became Walt's dream of a city of the future, it certainly sits in the hearts of many Disney fans as one of their favorite theme parks. Even with all of the infusion of characters and what not...the concept of Epcot still makes it my favorite theme park...even though, as we can see above, it has so much more potential!

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Thanks for reading! A question before the next part of The Future World That Never Was...

What's your favorite Epcot concept and why? Feel free to comment below and discuss!:)
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
The UK Pavillion could have a Doctor Who attraction that acts like both a dark ride, and the life, and health if it replaces Wonders of Life could have a Inside Out attraction replacing Cranium Command.
Those are good suggestions!

I'm not too big of a fan of IP characters in Future World...but I might make an exception for Inside Out - it would fit perfectly.
 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
Concept 3: The Future World That Never Was... (Part 2)

For this part of our journey - I've found some interesting concept art looking at Pavilions and areas that changed and evolved from these early renditions. It's cool to think about what could have been.

Early Epcot design
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Early Imagination Pavilion design
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Early World of Motion design
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Transportation Pavilion (never built)
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Early Universe of Energy
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and so much more! It's all available to search for if you're interested in this stuff. I find it fascinating.

My plan for the next few days is to tackle a few smaller concepts, then I might actually tackle Epcot (the city) which will be a big project to get as much of the detail as possible - I'm going to have to do a lot of research, so it will take a little longer. But for now thank you and look for the next concept tomorrow!:happy:

 

spacemt354

Chili's
Original Poster
Hello again everyone! Sorry for the delay, it's been a bit hectic the last week or so (in a good way) but I'd like to get back to this:

To tie in with @Simon Sulk 's Disneyland Virginia Competition - I'd like to look at a concept that almost made it to Virginia

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Disney's America Theme Park was to be built on 3,000-acres in Haymarket, VA. Officially announced on November 11th, 1993, the park would have been centered on the history of the United States all throughout the Revolution, Civil War, Industrial Era, and so on. Michael Eisner loved the idea but others didn't. After protests and complaints as well as financial reasons from Disney, the park was canceled...but some of the remnants of the project can be seen at Knott's Berry Farm and California Adventure to name a few.

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Here's where the land would have been:

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Michael Eisner and co looking at the project map.
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This park would have been awesome for any history buff. Guests would walk straight through centuries of American history.

This Civil War era town called "Crossroads U.S.A" would have acted as the park's "Main Street". The entrance to the park would have taken guests under a replicated 1840s train trestle complete with replicated steam trains that would circle the park.
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President's Square - including the Hall of Presidents as a main attraction

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Concept Art for a Civil War fort that would have been a land in the park.

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We the People - a land dedicated to Ellis Island would have included a Muppets show in it regarding immigration (that I'm intrigued about).

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Victory Field - showing off the military aircraft would have included a dueling coaster of the US vs Germany planes in an aerial battle.

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Lewis and Clark Expedition - eventually morphed into Grizzly River Run at Disney California Adventure​

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The State Fair - this concept would morph into Paradise Pier at Disney California Adventure. As you can see in the image the Ferris Wheel and white coaster look really similar to Mickey's Fun Wheel and California Screamin'
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Those would have been some of the highlights of the park - it would have been interesting to seen what would have been. It was definitely an ambitious theme to base a park around, but at least some of the rough concepts made it into theme parks around the country.

What are your thoughts on Disney's America? Would you have liked it to be built? Or is it better it was canceled?

Comment below and tune in soon for another never built Imagineering concept! Thanks!




 

James Norrie

Well-Known Member
Pavilions I'd like to see:
Switzerland with Matterhorn (New, Between Germany and Italy (Space 4), as planned in the Concept Book).
Japan with Mt. Fuji Coaster (Addition - use the show building that is already in place behind the castle walls, as planned)
Dubai (New - fitting considering what a destination Dubai has become in today's world to Go between International Gateway and UK (Space 7), possibly have an Arabian Dark Ride inside a mockup of the Burj Dubai Tower)
Venice Gondola Dark Ride (Addition - Inside Italy Pavilion on the west side of the lot, where trees grow now).
Netherlands (New - To the East of Germany Pavilion (Space 2), where the Outpost is located now. Windmill and Mockup of Amsterdam serve as Focal Points).
Brazil (New - Between Morocco and France (space 6). Amazon River Dark Ride. Carnival Party Nightly).
Egypt (New - Between Morocco and Japan (space 5). Pyramids in Background, Flying Coaster (themed as magic carpet ride) through the pyramids).
London Darkride (Addition - Housed in a building made to look like Parliament and Big Ben.).
France (Addition - A Dark Ride/Flume Ride based on the Gorges du Verdon, More Eateries).
Russia (New - Between Netherlands and Germany (Space 3). Built as planned above).
Spain (New - Between Canada and UK (Space 8). Dark Ride focusing on Culture and Tourism, Eateries). RIP OUT THE MILLENIUM TENT!!!
Germany (Addition - ADD THE RHINE RIVER CRUISE FINALLY!)
India (New - Between Mexico and Norway (Space 1). Taj Mahal as the Focal Point, with market, eateries and a Omnimover ride through its' history).

For Future World:
GotG Coaster in Energy, focus on future energy though, not guilt-shaming on Fossil Fuels (Let's make it positive?!)
Bring Back Wonders of Life! with an Inside Out theme
Update Seas, keep Nemo and friends in but make it more educational and also entertaining.
Give the Land a makeover, make it a pavilion that draws not only for Soarin'
Innoventions West make for Meet and Greets (if we're doing IP's keep them central).
Innoventions East Can be a Showcase for Future Tech, not just communications or "Simpson Tech of the 90's"
Imagination: Bring Back the Original!
Update Mission Space with something new and exciting, not 20 years ago Gary Sinise
Get rid of the Shades that provide neither shade nor rain protection
Refurb the fountain to its original glory
Get rid of the Tombstones

Just my .02
 

Disney Dad 3000

Well-Known Member
Thanks for starting this space. Love reading any what ifs about Epcot.
As much as I love Switzerland, I'm with you on the whole aspect thing. That huge peak would just dominate the showcase too much unless it was set back a little or the ground level was reduced to keep it from being so much higher which wouldn't make any sense.
Russia and some sort of carribean or south american nation would have been great additions since they are so all very unique in their own right compared to what's there
 

kmbmw777

Well-Known Member
Disney Wharf at Sydney Harbor
An Australian Resort
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This never built resort was in development from 2005-2008.


"It was so secret it was discussed in whispers with a special code name inside the state government, and it flew under the radar.

But the Walt Disney Company's plan to put a Disney Resort on prime waterfront land around White Bay and Glebe Island in 2007-08 was no mickey mouse plan.

Instead, glossy proposal documents seen by Fairfax Media reveal for the first time that the company was deadly serious in its pitch for what it called ''Disney Wharf at Sydney Harbour''.

It was a grand vision, incorporating not just so-called ''classic Disney'' elements, but also themed hotels, a marina and ferry wharf, two new light-rail stations, a retail space, an entertainment quarter and a residential development.

The old White Bay power station was to have been reborn as a design studio and arts centre, the concrete waste of Glebe Island would have blossomed into ''Fantasia Gardens'' with hedges cut in the shape of Disney characters, and just a short stroll away would have been what the designers termed a ''high-energy NY theatre-style district''.

There would have been a yacht club family resort and ''upscale'' residential developments in Disney Village on the northern end of White Bay, together with a Disney town centre (billed as offering ''prime waterfront office space'') and a Disney university and hospitality school.

There would have been Nemo-themed attractions in the theme park area, Peter Pan and Dumbo rides and actors in Disney character costume entertaining visitors as they traipsed in and out of retail outlets such as the ''Goofy Candy Store'' and the ''Princesses'' boutique.

''Project Lester'', as it was code named, was described as ''an integrated Disney destination to live, work, play and learn'' with the promoters promising it would enhance real estate values on the site itself and in the immediate neighbourhood.

The company said the proposed harbourside complex would ''refresh the city's tourism offerings'' and draw patrons from ''all over Australia and the world''.

But the response inside the state government was mixed. The local politics were seen as a huge challenge for a Labor administration, with one insider recalling fears that it ''wouldn't have gone down at all well with the denizens of neighbouring Balmain and Rozelle''.

Among ministers, the most enthusiastic was the now-disgraced Ian Macdonald, who held the state development portfolio. Then-premier Morris Iemma and then-treasurer Michael Costa were involved in high-level talks on the project but their interest waned as the scale of infrastructure investment expected by Disney became apparent.

''When they started looking at the infrastructure costs, they just went cold,'' said one senior insider, who recalled a starting figure of $500 million for the rail wharf and road changes that the project would have required.

Another objection from senior members of the bureaucracy was that the plan from Disney was really a ''development proposal dressed up as fun park''.

''One of the main reasons we entertained the idea at the start was that … it was a fabulous site, close to the city, and instead of more million-dollar apartments, we thought why not look at something potentially more interesting'' said one source who looked closely at the project.

''But in the end, it was difficult to get detailed proposals from them in writing, and there was always doubt over whether it could work.''

A spokeswoman for Walt Disney Parks and Resorts said the company was always looking to grow its business and ''as part of that process, we have conversations with many different entities''. The company would not comment on the Sydney proposal.

The site remains largely a concrete expanse, housing a temporary exhibition centre and a cruise passenger terminal."​
Source: http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/walt-disney-company-proposed-a-disney-resort-in-sydney-20140111-30nfk.html
 

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