I just ran the numbers both ways (using both the free dining and room discount)for Pop in December. Both packages have the following:Room-only discounts save as much or more for us depending which resort we stay at [Values are about break-even]. AP discount and TiW on one 8-night trip at a Deluxe saves enough on the room to pay for my AP, the TiW card, my son's hopper and everything we eat while we're there. Having "free" dining would cost more and force me to eat the way the credits are set up rather than the way I want.
There are only two of us and we always manage to get room discounts, if we were travelling when there aren't discounts it might be different, but I'm not sure they offer free dining then either.
How many in your party?I just ran the numbers both ways (using both the free dining and room discount)for Pop in December. Both packages have the following:
1) Standard room
2) 8 day park hopper
3) Upgrade dining to Deluxe
4) Air fair
Using Room Discount $3287.76
Using Free Dining $2966.76
Port Orleans came out cheaper with the Free Dining as well....
This of course is using the DDP instead of TiW
Party of 2...I wonder if this is a glitch in the system?How many in your party?
The reason I ask is for two of us it's always be about even. You're about $320 difference over 8 days, which is not as even as we see, but close. With an AP discount [so one less hopper but an AP instead] on resort and shopping, the difference would be a bit more or maybe less depending on how much shopping.![]()
No, your numbers seem about right, I added a bit to my previous post. If you drop the Deluxe dining and pay OOP for food with the TiW discount, it edges in favour of not using free dining in my view. But at $40/day total difference with the numbers you have, that's close to breaking even.Party of 2...I wonder if this is a glitch in the system?
The numbers we ran (and booked today) also showed a much better price (almost 10% less) using the free dining!!! Even when we ran the numbers for Moderates, the free dining came up cheaper than room discount, packages were "apples to apples".I booked under free dining but called WDW reservations when the room discount came out since I have heard that it's typically better to uses the reservation discounts. Well in my case free dining proved to be so much better for us. We have three adults so even if we cancelled our ADR's and did all QS we were still going to be paying much more to use the room discount. So we will get to experience all of the great food an restaurants we had reserved!![]()
Some day I will look into the TiW program and see what it's all about. I'll send my questions your way when the time comes! Thanks for the info...No, your numbers seem about right, I added a bit to my previous post. If you drop the Deluxe dining and pay OOP for food with the TiW discount, it edges in favour of not using free dining in my view. But at $40/day total difference with the numbers you have, that's close to breaking even.
The numbers we ran (and booked today) also showed a much better price (almost 10% less) using the free dining!!! Even when we ran the numbers for Moderates, the free dining came up cheaper than room discount, packages were "apples to apples".
Very curious.What restaurants that are you favourites that are not on DDP?It's extremely important to us that we NOT have dining. The dining plans exclude some of our favorite restaurants and none of them suit our eating habits. Luckily, we've always been able to get some kind of room only, package or PIN discount on our trips. If our choices were free dining or nothing, we'd probably rent points or stay at the Swan/Dolphin instead.
They key thing is you need an AP to enroll in TiW. We go once a year at most so have never bought an AP.Some day I will look into the TiW program and see what it's all about. I'll send my questions your way when the time comes! Thanks for the info...
Bluezoo, Il Mulino and the other Swan/Dolphin restaurants. They're probably among the best Disney restaurants simply because they don't take the dining plan and haven't had to adjust their offerings to make those dining credit reimbursements profitable.Very curious.What restaurants that are you favourites that are not on DDP?
Well there you go.I've never heard anyone rave about these restaurants that are your favourites.As far as breakfast goes,we are coffee & croissant people so we just pay for these and keep our credits for lunch & dinner.Bluezoo, Il Mulino and the other Swan/Dolphin restaurants. They're probably among the best Disney restaurants simply because they don't take the dining plan and haven't had to adjust their offerings to make those dining credit reimbursements profitable.
The other part if the puzzle is that the dining plans are not friendly to the way we like to dine. If we want to do a sit-down breakfast, which we do at least a few days each visit, it's a terrible use of a table service credit. The breakfast entreés are too inexpensive to "waste" a credit on, and we'd definitely forego the dessert that comes with the meal. At dinnertime, we most often dine in the lounges of signature restaurants and share appetizers rather than ordering a full meal. Our apps and drinks wouldn't be covered at all on the standard plan, and we wouldn't require all the food to which the deluxe plan entitles us. It's just too much.
Well there you go.I've never heard anyone rave about these restaurants that are your favourites.As far as breakfast goes,we are coffee & croissant people so we just pay for these and keep our credits for lunch & dinner.![]()
Must admit even if I was staying at the S&D I still like to eat at lots of other restaurants.Some of the best spots in wdw are at the Swan & Dolphin but you dint hear too much about them as so many people are on the DP
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