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Captain Chaos

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As posted on orlandoSentinel.com today:


Disney officials head to Himalayas

By Sarah Hale Meitner
Sentinel Staff Writer
Posted May 6, 2005

A team of Walt Disney World officials and more than 20 renowned scientists will spend two months in the Himalayas this fall, gathering geological and cultural data that they'll use to authenticate Disney's newest Animal Kingdom attraction, Expedition Everest.

The coasterlike thrill ride, scheduled to debut next spring, will capture both the folklore and legend surrounding the yeti -- better known at the abominable snowman -- as well as true-to-nature elements discovered during the research trip.

By studying the region -- and its insects, birds, plants and people -- Disney officials say they'll be better equipped to give visitors an accurate portrayal of the Himalayas.

"At the highest level, it's a thrill-ride attraction," said Joe Rohde, lead designer of Animal Kingdom, who will accompany the scientists during the research trip. "But it's still about nature and the sanctity of the land."

To do this research, Disney will announce today a partnership with Conservation International, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit nature-and-wildlife preservation group and a joint partner on other Animal Kingdom initiatives.

The organization has worked with Disney since 1995 in building the company's biggest Orlando theme park, and its president, Russell A. Mittermeier, sits on the Animal Kingdom Advisory Board.

Disney also has contributed more than $2 million to the group -- money it has used to expand its Rapid Assessment Program, a research method used to quickly gather scientific information about a region.

It's a method the two teams will employ this fall during the trip to the Himalayas.

Specialists will spend more than a month in the field, backpacking to the base of Mount Everest, looking for lesser-known plant and animal species and documenting the patterns.

For instance, bird experts will identify species by both sight and sound, said Leeann Alonso, a vice president of field assessment with Conservation International. And plant experts will measure trees, growth patterns and species.

Rohde said plans also call for discussions with local residents about their relationship with the yeti.

To them, the yeti is a protector of the land. To Disney, it's a key figure in the Expedition Everest experience.

While on the ride, visitors will board an old-timey railway destined for Mount Everest. The train rolls through a thick bamboo forest, past waterfalls and through the snow.

Eventually the track ends in a gnarled mass of metal, sending riders forward and backward and into a head-on run-in with the yeti.

The joint collaboration between Disney and Conservation International for this project has been in the works for more than two years.

Although Disney officials, including Rohde, have traveled to Asia to visit the Himalayas several times in researching the attraction, this trip will be more detail-oriented and scientific.

"We've been continually studying the region and going there," Rohde said. "But we're in the homestretch now, gathering the final level of detail to be incorporated in the attraction."

Findings from the trip also will be showcased at Animal Kingdom's Conservation Station.

Conservation International will use the findings as it works to preserve the globe's most vulnerable regions, Alonso said. It's the first time the group will research the area this extensively, she said.
 

-SIR-

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this is really really good, it means Disney is still using money and focusing on detail oriented attractions... I am really started to love the animal kingdom... a park I havent always been crazy about
 

imagineersrock

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I too have been falling in love with Animal Kingdom more and more each time I visit. Currently the studios and AK are tied as my personal favorites, but once EE opens, it will truly start to round out AK as a park and it will without a doubt be my favorite park on property. I love the attention to detail that can be found around every corner.
 

Snapper Bean

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Well I guess its noble that they are striving for accuracy but I'll be honest with you, this seems excessive and a waste of time. The time and energy spent on getting E:E authentic will likely not be noticed by 99% of park patrons. However, there are plenty of other things which require attention and money.

Snapper Bean
 

downwitheisner

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Snapper Bean said:
Well I guess its noble that they are striving for accuracy but I'll be honest with you, this seems excessive and a waste of time. The time and energy spent on getting E:E authentic will likely not be noticed by 99% of park patrons. However, there are plenty of other things which require attention and money.

I pretty much agree. It seems more like an Oriental Vactation for the Imagineers, than a chance to gather details.
 

socalkdg

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Snapper Bean said:
Well I guess its noble that they are striving for accuracy but I'll be honest with you, this seems excessive and a waste of time. The time and energy spent on getting E:E authentic will likely not be noticed by 99% of park patrons. However, there are plenty of other things which require attention and money.

Snapper Bean
This little adventure is as much for advertising as it is for authenticity.
 

PamelaNiebergal

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I think this is great. It doesn't matter that 99% might not notice the detail. What's important is the 1% who will. That's what sets Disney apart from other parks: attention to detail, and I think this is a needed return to their roots.
 

Snapper Bean

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PamelaNiebergal said:
I think this is great. It doesn't matter that 99% might not notice the detail. What's important is the 1% who will. That's what sets Disney apart from other parks: attention to detail, and I think this is a needed return to their roots.


Given that no entity has an unlimited supply of funds, I think the better course of action is to spend the money on aspects of improvements that more than 1% of the patrons will notice.
 

DarkMeasures

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Snapper Bean said:
Well I guess its noble that they are striving for accuracy but I'll be honest with you, this seems excessive and a waste of time. The time and energy spent on getting E:E authentic will likely not be noticed by 99% of park patrons. However, there are plenty of other things which require attention and money.

Snapper Bean

If Disney were to abandone detail, I would never walk into a Disney park again. The biggest legacy left by Walt is the attention of detail. And people do care and people do notice.

Disney is a 66 billion dollar company. They can afford spending 100 million dollars to get a ride to have really high detail. (well they still managed to afford detail even before the first billion was ever made).
 

Number_6

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DarkMeasures said:
If Disney were to abandone detail, I would never walk into a Disney park again. The biggest legacy left by Walt is the attention of detail. And people do care and people do notice.

Disney is a 66 billion dollar company. They can afford spending 100 million dollars to get a ride to have really high detail. (well they still managed to afford detail even before the first billion was ever made).

Exactly. If they didn't pay that much attention to detail, then Disney parks would just be glorified Six Flags Amusement Parks, instead of the Premiere Theme Parks in the world.
 

SpectroMan

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I am so excited that they are doing this. It reminds me of the True Life Adventures. I am glad to see that Disney is still in touch with the ideas that Walt conveyed in those stories.
 

Sergeant Tibbs

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SirGoofy said:
:lol: Nice fake article. My friend did that to me one time saying my favorite player was traded from my team. I almost punched him when he said it was fake. :lol:
My friend told me the traded Tom Brady, I almost got really mad.
 

Snapper Bean

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I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't make much sense to spend a couple hundred thousand dollars to make sure that Everest has 100% accurate mud hues when people are sitting in ripped seats at Philharmagic. Disney needs to spend their money to maximize park experience for many patrons, not the people who would obsess about the accuracy of Asian hut thatching density. The same money that is sending people on a two month hiking trip could be fixing an awful Stich attraction. Disney doesn't have its own mint.
 

gsimpson

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Bravo... Doing it right is the only way

I have to agree with the people that are applauding Disney for returning to the method where there is perfect and not acceptable. If I want to see nothing but rides that are in "good enough" shape I can head to any Six Flags or Cedar Fair park and get my fill. Disney is about being not just better but best. I think it would be penny wise and pound foolish to stop when they're within 1%.
 

imagineersrock

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Snapper Bean said:
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't make much sense to spend a couple hundred thousand dollars to make sure that Everest has 100% accurate mud hues when people are sitting in ripped seats at Philharmagic. Disney needs to spend their money to maximize park experience for many patrons, not the people who would obsess about the accuracy of Asian hut thatching density. The same money that is sending people on a two month hiking trip could be fixing an awful Stich attraction. Disney doesn't have its own mint.
Wow- that was really well said, Snapper Bean
 

wdwmagic

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Snapper Bean said:
I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't make much sense to spend a couple hundred thousand dollars to make sure that Everest has 100% accurate mud hues when people are sitting in ripped seats at Philharmagic. Disney needs to spend their money to maximize park experience for many patrons, not the people who would obsess about the accuracy of Asian hut thatching density. The same money that is sending people on a two month hiking trip could be fixing an awful Stich attraction. Disney doesn't have its own mint.

I would imagine that this trip to the Himilayas is primarily being operated as a great way of promoting Everest and Disney to mass audiences on TV via the Discovery Channel. I would think the return on this project is going to far out-weigh the cost of it, otherwise Disney would not be doing it.

The accuracy and authenticity is critical to this project, and the whole direction of AK. These kind of things are the difference between Disney and the others, and in my opinion should be encouraged, and applauded.

I understand the ripped seats (which does happen in high volume environments, unless they are made of non-fabric materials), have been replaced. I don't see Everest's budget impacting on that.
 

peter11435

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Not only have the ripped seats been repaired, but the problem was never as bad as some on here made it seem. They were isolated; it wasn't like every other seat in the theater was like that. There was just a section that some fools had cut. The seats were fixed quickly but not before someone took the photo and posted it here. No fabric in the world is completely indestructible, and as long as people in the world are stupid even Disney will not be able to avoid these things.

Attention to detail is what makes Disney, Disney. The thought that this extreme attention to detail should be abandoned is worse than a few ripped seats.
 

WeLComeHomE OKW

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PamelaNiebergal said:
I think this is great. It doesn't matter that 99% might not notice the detail. What's important is the 1% who will. That's what sets Disney apart from other parks: attention to detail, and I think this is a needed return to their roots.

I completely agree. See the problem with Universal, Busch Gardens, Sea World...etc. is that the rides are
a) poorly themed and b) pay little attention to detail

Everytime I am in a Disney Ride (especially in Animal Kingdom) i notice something brand new. Its because every single thing in the ride is as if your actually there (at Everest in this case). So i am SOO happy that they are going there. This will make me want to go on the ride MUCH more. Lets just hope they keep the park open alil longer then usual so we can ride this at night!
 

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