After reading the article in the Orlando Sentinel I have a few questions. I know it would cost alot of money, but the Magic Kindom is get so crowded now and need alot of money to fix it. Why don't they just built a new Magic Kingdom with more new ride and with more room and close the one the presently have. In about 10-15 years, you wouldn't be able to walk around the Magic Kingdom because it's so crowded and so small. They need more room! Just an idea! What are your thoughts?
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Tear Down the Magic Kingdom?
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imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
Are you crazy? Its not like the MK is the only park that ever gets crowded. Closeing the current Magic Kingdom would be closeing a classic and piece of history. Not to mention it would be very expencsive.
the_rich
Well-Known Member
if you do that you are closing the #1 theme park in the world. disney would lose an enormous amount of money, plus the cost of rebuilding. i think mk is great just the way it is. disney should concentrate on fixing up epcot and on building up ak. ak could be huge if they give it more e-tickets like e:e. australia would be a great addition. ak could be just as big as mk; if they do it right.
tigsmom
Well-Known Member
Ah.....no. If you think it takes alot of $ to fix it, how much do you think it would take to replace it? Its just not feasible. Would you tear down the Statue of Liberty just because its old and in need of repair? (extreme example I know, but you get the idea).
I think management needs to study what need to be fixed (and I'm sure they already know) and get to work on it.
That goes for the other parks as well.
I think management needs to study what need to be fixed (and I'm sure they already know) and get to work on it.
That goes for the other parks as well.
MagicalMonorail
New Member
:lol: :lol: :lol: ......................NO. I don't believe it will ever be torn down. At least while Disney owns it. It was the first park in Walt Disney World and is a world famous icon. Yes, crowds are bad. Does that mean we should tear it down? No! Crowds are only bad during peak seasons. The rest of the year it's quite simple to get through the Magic Kingdom. This is another reason they're making more rides. They can help move the crowds and spread them out. Crowds are a problem but Disney is working to fix that. There are crowds of people everywhere on the planet. Does that mean we should tear the planet down? No! You said they could rebuild it. No way. Sure we COULD but hey, Eisner is in control and this would cost mega bucks. They're working right now to improve traffic flow in the Magic Kingdom. They're not looking to destroy it.
So what will they do it 30 years? Keep on renovating? Don't get me wrong, I love Disney, but as time goes by, it will cost them more to renovate than just to replace. How will they expand the Magic Kingdom? How wll they widen the pathways? They wouldn't even need to put the new Magic Kingdom in the same place, they could move it and close the old one once the new one was complete. Just a thought!
Captain Hank
Well-Known Member
You might want to look up the "New Coke" controversy to see why this would not work. Back in the 80's, Coke sales were losing ground to Pepsi. Coke discovered that this was because people did not like the taste of Coke as much as Pepsi. (analogy: crowds in the MK) So, they decided to discontinue Classic Coke and introduce New Coke, which consistantly rated better than Pepsi in taste tests. (analogy: tearing down the MK and replacing it with a better-designed one) People rebelled against New Coke and refused to buy it. This was not necessarily due to the change in taste, but simply in the <i>idea</i> of changing Coke. Coke was forced to bring back Classic Coke as a result. If they were to tear down and replace the MK with a different, albiet better designed, one, attendance would plummet. People would be outraged that an American icon had been messed with.
SpongeScott
Well-Known Member
Good analogy, except I really liked the taste of New Coke.
Would you tear down your house and build a new one? Doubtful; you would maintain and renovate. Co$t is simply way too high for something like this to even be considered.
I had a friend who needed four new tires on his car so he bought a new car instead. :hammer: Fix what needs to be fixed, but don't throw the baby out with the bath water.
HennieBogan1966
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I believe this "problem" should be examined from another angle.
If I'm in a mgmt. position with Disney, I'm loving large crowds.
Good for business. Look at it like this. When you pass by a place of business that carries a product you're interested in, if the parking lot is empty, are you less or more likely to stop by?
How many of you out there search for a grocery store that's less crowded? And let's be honest here, there are peak times to be sure, at the MK, but if y ou were to attend in Dec, Jan, Feb, I think you'd be surprised by how slow business is. We have been in Dec. twice, and Jan once, and rarely, if ever, waited to get on a ride. I can only remember waiting in line for Peter Pan's Flight, and It's A Small World. Other than that, we walked right onto every ride.
And I for one love the crowds. It's part of the atmosphere and charm. I'm having a hard time understanding why you would want to attend a theme park with no people there. My suggestion is for us to teach our children and ourselves, more patience. It seems to be a quality that is quickly being lost in our society.
If I'm in a mgmt. position with Disney, I'm loving large crowds.
Good for business. Look at it like this. When you pass by a place of business that carries a product you're interested in, if the parking lot is empty, are you less or more likely to stop by?
How many of you out there search for a grocery store that's less crowded? And let's be honest here, there are peak times to be sure, at the MK, but if y ou were to attend in Dec, Jan, Feb, I think you'd be surprised by how slow business is. We have been in Dec. twice, and Jan once, and rarely, if ever, waited to get on a ride. I can only remember waiting in line for Peter Pan's Flight, and It's A Small World. Other than that, we walked right onto every ride.
And I for one love the crowds. It's part of the atmosphere and charm. I'm having a hard time understanding why you would want to attend a theme park with no people there. My suggestion is for us to teach our children and ourselves, more patience. It seems to be a quality that is quickly being lost in our society.
CAPTAIN HOOK
Well-Known Member
MK (like all parks) has a maximum occupancy level and when reached no more guests (except resort guests) are allowed in. The parks might be busy but never overcrowded.
SpongeScott
Well-Known Member
Good point. Overcrowded is all relative. To some it is, to some it isn't. To the person waiting to ride Space/Splash Mountain for two hours, it's overcrowded; to the WDW bean counters, it's nirvana.
SewIn2Disney
Well-Known Member
Lol....very well put
Edit: I was going to say something about this, but like my mom always said "if you don't have anything nice to say then don't say anything at all"
ILOVEDISNEY
Active Member
You've really stirred the pot on this one. The MK will never be like it was when it opened. Yes, I see a need for more attractions. Just look at all the space that is not being used now. There are a few attractions that should go. Disney is not going to spend billions for fewer guests. Yes, there are more people in America now, but percentage wise I doubt more are coming to visit. Since there are now other Disney parks in Japan, France, and soon in Hong Kong, there are fewer foreign guests. When the MK was built they had no idea how many would come. Yes, millions have visited, but the real money comes from repeat visitors. That's why Magic Gatherings is being promoted, and why baby boomers are asked to relive their childhood memories. It doesn't matter if you build a new park every 5 years if you have no one to visit.
ILOVEDISNEY
Active Member
I have to disagee with Disney bean counters liking 2 hour waits for rides and attractions. Ideally, a guest should not have to wait at all. I know many, many people who will never go back to WDW because of the crowds, waiting times, heat, cost, etc. That's great for us fans, but not good for the long-term success of WDW.
cherrynegra
Well-Known Member
Actually, I had this crazy idea that they should close each park for a month while they work overtime on repairing them when closed. That way they could make a big show when reopening each park and the next one takes it turn. People would rush to the park slated for closure for rehab, and then show up to the one that reopens to check out the freshly redone park. I think it would be a great advertising idea and it would give them time to catch up with the maintenance. But as someone earlier posted, nobody wants to close a classic. I guess even for a brief time period.
Lennyg512
Member
The Magic Kingdom should not, and will not, be torn down. Like others have said, it is the most popular vacation destination in the world. Cinderella's Castle is an icon known wordwide and it would be a bad idea to replace it. My opinion, is that the 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea lagoon should be demolished and the park could be expanded back further. This would lead people further back into the park reducing the crowds.
epcot2004
Active Member
When I was last to Disneyland in 1987 it seemed overcrowded, the aparent solution was to build DCA. The same would apply here, build another park if necessary, maybe even a "companion" park. The MK must remain intact with only minor modifications to adapt to people's changing tastes as has happened since it opened.
It was necessary to build another park at WDW
And Disney did
Three more in fact.
There is plenty of room to expand the parks and to add a fifth park:animwink:
Yes the walkway around IASW is terriblely overcrowded during peak seasons and almost impassable on NYE and other major holidays but then so is Times Square on NYE, Burbon St. during Mardi Gras etc.
By the by they could help with the choke point around IASW by taking out the Skyride building and hill.:lookaroun