Team Younger: SYWTBAI Season 14, Project Six Open Brainstorming

Pi on my Cake

Pi on my Cake

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DisneyManOne said:
If we're gonna go with James and the Giant Peach, I think we should start with the plot's synopsis...so we can decide what to cut from this stage adaptation.
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From Wikipedia: "James Henry Trotter is a young boy who lives with his parents by the sea in England. On James' birthday, they plan to go to New York City and visit the Empire State Building, the tallest building in the world. However, his parents are killed by a ghostly rhinoceros from the sky and James finds himself living with his two ignorant and cruel aunts, Spiker and Sponge.

He is forced to work all day and they antagonize him by threatening him with beatings to keep him in line and torment him about the mysterious rhino and other hazards if he ever attempts to escape. While rescuing a spider from being squashed by his aunts, James meets a mysterious man with a bag of magic green "crocodile tongues", which he gives to James to make his life better. The man instructs him not to lose the "tongues" and disappears. When James is returning to the house, he trips and the "tongues" escape into the ground.

This transforms a peach on a withered old tree into enormous proportions. Spiker and Sponge sell tickets to view the giant peach. James crawls inside a large hole he inadvertently creates in the peach, and he finds and befriends a group of life-size anthropomorphic bugs (Mr. Grasshopper, Mr. Centipede, Earthworm, Miss Spider, Mrs. Ladybug, and Glowworm). As they hear the aunts search for James, Mr. Centipede cuts the stem connecting the giant peach to the tree and the peach rolls away to the Atlantic Ocean.

Remembering his dream to visit New York City, James and the insects decide to go there with Mr. Centipede steering the peach. They use Miss Spider's silk to capture and tie a hundred seagulls to the peach stem, while battling against a giant robotic shark. Miss Spider reveals to James that she was the spider he saved from Spiker and Sponge. The next day, James and his friends find themselves in The Arctic; the Centipede has fallen asleep while keeping watch. After hearing Mr. Grasshoper wishing they had a compass, Mr. Centipede jumps off the peach into the icy water below and searches a sunken ship for a compass but is taken prisoner by skeletal pirates. James and Miss Spider rescue him and the journey continues.

As they reach New York City, a storm appears, along with the ghostly rhino. James is frightened but challenges the rhino and gets his friends to safety before the rhino strikes the peach with lightning; James and the peach fall to the city below, landing on top of the Empire State Building. After he is rescued by police officers, firefighters, and the largest crane in New York City, Spiker and Sponge arrive and attempt to claim James and the peach. James reveals Spiker and Sponge's abusive behavior towards him to the crowd, who gasp in shock at the revelation. Spiker and Sponge become enraged by James' betrayal and attempt to kill him. The bugs arrive and tie up Spiker and Sponge with Miss Spider's silk and both aunts are arrested. James introduces his friends to the New Yorkers and allows the children to eat up the peach. The peach pit is made into a house in Central Park, where James lives happily with the bugs, who form his new family and also take important jobs in the city. James celebrates his ninth birthday with his new family."

So, what do you think? The only thing I can think of cutting right now is the Arctic compass scene; I considered cutting the shark scene, but then again, we need an explanation as to how the peach gets airborne.
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That's sort of the problem with James and the Giant Peach. The robot shark and the lost compass scenes are weird filler that would usually be cut out of something like this, but they're also the only two significant events to happen while they're riding the Peach. And riding the Peach is the main thing everyone remembers.

James and the Giant Peach would allow us to do some cool visuals, but I don't think that movie has a strong or coherent enough plot for modern audiences. It is a really weird, niche movie.

I wouldn't say I'm against James and the Giant Peach (the sets and costumes alone would be fantastic), but I do think we should choose something with a more coherent plot.
 
mharrington

mharrington

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Pionmycake said:
Pinocchio could be interesting. It would give us a chance to make one or two new songs, but we wouldn't need to start from scratch.
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Well, it is on a stage rather than an ice rink, so we will have to alter it accordingly. As for new songs, we could use songs that were created for, but not ultimately used, in the film. For instance, as the coach heads for Pleasure Island, the boys all sing "Three Cheers For Anything":


Perhaps that could be included in the stage version.
 
Pi on my Cake

Pi on my Cake

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So, I'm seeing a few different directions we're torn between.

-Something really out there like James and the Giant Peach that could give us a lot of cool oppurtunities but has some definite plot issues we would probably have to work around

-Something more classic and traditional like Pinocchio. Probably the easiest to do, but maybe not the most... exciting... so to speak... since it's very traditional.

-Something that's not traditionally a musical that we could reinvent a bit like Wreck-it-Ralph. This could be a bit risky because we would have to really change things around to make a non-musical work with songs but if we pull it off we could get a lot of creativity points. Zootopia and Rattatoullie were also both mentioned and would fall into this category.
 
mharrington

mharrington

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Pionmycake said:
So, I'm seeing a few different directions we're torn between.

-Something really out there like James and the Giant Peach that could give us a lot of cool oppurtunities but has some definite plot issues we would probably have to work around

-Something more classic and traditional like Pinocchio. Probably the easiest to do, but maybe not the most... exciting... so to speak... since it's very traditional.

-Something that's not traditionally a musical that we could reinvent a bit like Wreck-it-Ralph. This could be a bit risky because we would have to really change things around to make a non-musical work with songs but if we pull it off we could get a lot of creativity points. Zootopia and Rattatoullie were also both mentioned and would fall into this category.
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Well, based on what you said, I would say "Pinocchio" is the path of least resistance. And besides, it's never been done at a park (or a Broadway show) before. What do you think?
 
Magic Feather

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Also to remember, whoever is going to start the thread, say that a "CM friend" told you. Then, lots of people should jump and say "no chance" not happening. Then we will have the insider say that it is true. PS- A disclaimer should be placed in the first post that it is pure imagineering
 
Pi on my Cake

Pi on my Cake

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Magic Feather said:
Also to remember, whoever is going to start the thread, say that a "CM friend" told you. Then, lots of people should jump and say "no chance" not happening. Then we will have the insider say that it is true. PS- A disclaimer should be placed in the first post that it is pure imagineering
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Wrong thread, buddy. But a great idea!
 
mharrington

mharrington

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Being as how the stage show version of "Pinocchio" will probably be about 40 minutes to an hour, we will need to condense and simplify it. One area which might be of some help in this regard is the old Sunday comic strip version of the film that debuted weeks before the film came out. The comic strip nixes Stromboli's puppet show for some reason, and Stromboli is not quite the violent force of nature he is in the movie; he's just not very nice:
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The puppet show will be retained, naturally. But other condensations will be based on this old comic, particularly the depiction of Pleasure Island:
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Anyway, that gives you a rough idea of how the stage show could be done.
 
Pi on my Cake

Pi on my Cake

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I honestly dont know how it will turn out, but if still love to try to write an original song for this. It's less needed than it was for Ralph, but I still think it would be a fun and very creative addition.

Is anyone against me trying to write one? Or does anyone have music skills and wanna use to write a song with me?
 
Basketbuddy101

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Pionmycake said:
I honestly dont know how it will turn out, but if still love to try to write an original song for this. It's less needed than it was for Ralph, but I still think it would be a fun and very creative addition.

Is anyone against me trying to write one? Or does anyone have music skills and wanna use to write a song with me?
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I'm all for this.
 
Basketbuddy101

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I was thinking, if we're going with the Theater of the Stars at Hollywood Studios, maybe we should make significant structural upgrades to the building. We enclose the entire theater so no outside light bleeds in and expand the stage space to include better sets. There's plenty of space behind the theater to accommodate these changes. That way, we can have a more dynamic lighting setup. What do we think?

Edit: On second thought, we probably don't need to do this. The venue is fine as it is.
 
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Pi on my Cake

Pi on my Cake

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Basketbuddy101 said:
I was thinking, if we're going with the Theater of the Stars at Hollywood Studios, maybe we should make significant structural upgrades to the building. We enclose the entire theater so no outside light bleeds in and expand the stage space to include better sets. There's plenty of space behind the theater to accommodate these changes. That way, we can have a more dynamic lighting setup. What do we think?

Edit: On second thought, we probably don't need to do this. The venue is fine as it is.
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The theater needs air conditioning if anything else lol
 

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