Basketbuddy101
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Team Mist: Season 14, Project One brainstorming thread
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DisneyManOne
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Regarding other cartoon ghosts, do we have any ideas? Maybe we could take a dark turn and have a close encounter with the Headless Horseman...if it's even debatable if he's a ghost at all.
Basketbuddy101
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That could work. The story should definitely be unique, and subtle to boot, just like the Haunted Mansion. In other news, I'm done with the general mold for the ghost(s). Mickey was borrowed. The point is, I can animate these and present them as actual 'animatronics.' Come to think of it, my main focus will probably be this ride. I could do a little art for the town itself, but this Haunted Mansion is too intriguing not to focus my attention on, unless anyone thinks otherwise, of course.
TrevorA
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Hey everyone! I'll do my best to contribute to the project in larger portions when I'm here, because I may not be able to check the forum as frequently as some of you.
Re: The Lonesome Ghosts Haunted Mansion.
I have an idea for a unique direction we could take this. In the LG Walt Disney short, the audience follows the action from the ghosts' perspective and not Mickey, Donald, and Goofy, which seems unique. Most of the gags are set up where the audience is prepped for the joke, but the main characters aren't. If we wanted to borrow this narrative conceit for the ride, we could essentially place this experience as an opposite version of the original Haunted Mansion. That is to say, if we somehow establish the guests' position as accomplices with the ghost characters, we could make a ride where all the narrative drama comes from trying to sneak up on Mickey, Donald, or Goofy to scare them, instead of another ride where silly ghosts are trying to scare you. I think this approach has a lot of potential for funny scenes, and possibly some real surprises, and we can do all of it while maintaining the benign nature of the older Haunted Mansion.
Re: the Toontown neighborhoods
This is a super fun idea! Do we already have a solid idea on all the neighborhoods in this area, or are we still workshopping that part?
@Basketbuddy101, it seems like you might already be working hard on some art for the outsides of some of the buildings, but if you're still in a place to receive visual inspiration for that, there's a Tex Avery MGM short called Red Hot Riding Hood that illustrates the early-20th century urban look we're aiming for, in a cartoon-y way. It's on Youtube, I think, I'll edit this post with a link if I can find it.
This may be obvious, but I think that since these characters live and breathe on the screen, that a central component of their town would be a movie theater. I think we could construct a really impressive movie palace, and have something exceptional inside. If everyone thinks this is an idea we should pursue, I can adopt it as my contribution to the project.
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Let me know what you all think!
---TrevorA
Re: The Lonesome Ghosts Haunted Mansion.
I have an idea for a unique direction we could take this. In the LG Walt Disney short, the audience follows the action from the ghosts' perspective and not Mickey, Donald, and Goofy, which seems unique. Most of the gags are set up where the audience is prepped for the joke, but the main characters aren't. If we wanted to borrow this narrative conceit for the ride, we could essentially place this experience as an opposite version of the original Haunted Mansion. That is to say, if we somehow establish the guests' position as accomplices with the ghost characters, we could make a ride where all the narrative drama comes from trying to sneak up on Mickey, Donald, or Goofy to scare them, instead of another ride where silly ghosts are trying to scare you. I think this approach has a lot of potential for funny scenes, and possibly some real surprises, and we can do all of it while maintaining the benign nature of the older Haunted Mansion.
Re: the Toontown neighborhoods
This is a super fun idea! Do we already have a solid idea on all the neighborhoods in this area, or are we still workshopping that part?
@Basketbuddy101, it seems like you might already be working hard on some art for the outsides of some of the buildings, but if you're still in a place to receive visual inspiration for that, there's a Tex Avery MGM short called Red Hot Riding Hood that illustrates the early-20th century urban look we're aiming for, in a cartoon-y way. It's on Youtube, I think, I'll edit this post with a link if I can find it.
This may be obvious, but I think that since these characters live and breathe on the screen, that a central component of their town would be a movie theater. I think we could construct a really impressive movie palace, and have something exceptional inside. If everyone thinks this is an idea we should pursue, I can adopt it as my contribution to the project.
Second post
Let me know what you all think!
---TrevorA
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JokersWild
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That's a super interesting idea. Would it be possible for us to perhaps explore both sides of the story, though? Like, what if we made the ride a dueling trackless of sorts? Two trackless rides with slightly different stories in the same complex exploring different halves of the same overarching story.
I also think that we would benefit by building past just Lonesome Ghosts as well. I'm thinking Mad Doctor, Skeleton Dance, hell, even The Old Mill could be a cool moody queue element. And even past that, I would love to delve into Looney Tunes a bit as well. Witch Hazel could be a great character to show up in here. Maybe Gossamer as well. And I'm sure that there are a bunch of others that I'm not thinking of that could work as well. I think that the main goal of this land should really be to not limit ourselves. We're making a land where EVERY cartoon character live and work together, and we should absolutely use that to our advantage.
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Sorry for that diatribe. Past our Haunted Mansion, we should also probably look at the rest of our land as well. I'm just going to go through my ideas briefly and we can build from there. I'm thinking that ToonTown would be made of four areas: ToonTown Proper, Old Town, a mountainy/ woodsy area, and perhaps an area for things like that Wacky Races ride I suggested earlier. Going by what we've been talking about briefly, and what I've suggested yesterday, here's just a quick rundown of a potential attractions list:
ToonTown Proper (basically the urban area we've talked about. Highrises, very cartoony)
.Haunted Mansion??
.We should probably have a restaurant here....
.Popeye? (On the water, obviously)
Old Town (Black and White. We don't have to do this. I just liked the idea
. Smaller buildings. Maybe more "towney" than ToonTown Proper. Much more exaggerated and squash and stretch).Plane Crazy Flatride?
.Betty Boop restaurant?
.Felix the Cat ride?
Wood/ Mountain Area
.Rocky and Bullwinkle Ride
.Yogi Bear?
.Something Looney Tunes?
Other Area (Island? Something else?)
.Wacky Races ride (similar to Soap Box Derby from Knotts. Obviously better theming, and probably a safer ride system)
.Some D-Ticket. (Flintstones? If we made this a deserty area we could easily do a Wil-E Coyote coaster....)
I know that there are a lot of question marks in there. We definitely need more D-Tickets, and restaurants, but I thought that this could start us off with thinking about the land as a whole. General thoughts/ ideas?
I also think that we need to pick a team leader, but I'm not sure. That's something we should probably look at as well.
MANEATINGWREATH
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Folks, I wholeheartedly apologize for the late notice... But on the bright side, you still have a good amount of time to complete the project. Especially given what I'm about to tell you.
@Magic Feather has opened Walt's Vault. The result? A twist in the original prompt. As per her choice, Team Mist can no longer use cartoon IPs or characters created BEFORE 1985. That being said, you still have a wonderful selection of characters to choose from (I.E. Courage, Darkwing Duck, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, etc.).
Good luck, Team Mist.
@Magic Feather has opened Walt's Vault. The result? A twist in the original prompt. As per her choice, Team Mist can no longer use cartoon IPs or characters created BEFORE 1985. That being said, you still have a wonderful selection of characters to choose from (I.E. Courage, Darkwing Duck, Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, etc.).
Good luck, Team Mist.
JokersWild
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I lied. Scrap everything....
mickeyfan5534
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Can we use DuckTales or Goof Troop? Both premiered after the date but star characters created before that so there's a real gray area in my eyes.
Were going to go ahead and make an exception to this rule for two brands...Adult Swim and Disney Afternoon. Both featured lots of characters from the 1950's and 1960's but redone in completely different ways that suited their respective shows. Though with Disney Afternoon I'd try to work in some of the original characters in a major way...Launchpad from DuckTales for example.
mickeyfan5534
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What about Teen Titans as well, premiered 2003; Robin created in 1940, Starfire, Cyborg, and Raven created in 1980, and Beast Boy created 1965. Is that another go ahead?
Unfortunately that's where I'd draw the line. Like I said, please stick to using Disney Afternoon or Adult Swim when it comes to reworked versions of older characters. It's just easier to monitor that way.
mickeyfan5534
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Noted!
What about keeping to the residential areas theme? An area for Disney Afternoon, an area for classic CN, an area for Nicktoons, etc
Basketbuddy101
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I second this idea.
Edit: We could have a Haunted Mansion themed to Courage the Cowardly Dog. Unfortunately, I never watched that show lol
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mickeyfan5534
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Just a list of cartoons we could use
Disney Afternoon
DuckTales
Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers
TaleSpin
Darkwing Duck
Goof Troop
Gargoyles
Disney Channel/Disney XD
Kim Possible
Gravity Falls
Phineas and Ferb
Milo Murphy's Law
Star vs The Forces of Evil
Cartoon Network
Dexter's Lab
The Powerpuff Girls
Courage the Cowardly Dog
Codename: Kid's Next Door
The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
Adventure Time
Steven Universe
Adult Swim
Rick and Morty
The Venture Bros.
Nicktoons
Rugrats
Hey Arnold!
CatDog
SpongeBob SquarePants
Jimmy Neutron
Fairly Oddparents
Anything I'm missing? What about using anime in the place of where we wanted Popeye?
Disney Afternoon
DuckTales
Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers
TaleSpin
Darkwing Duck
Goof Troop
Gargoyles
Disney Channel/Disney XD
Kim Possible
Gravity Falls
Phineas and Ferb
Milo Murphy's Law
Star vs The Forces of Evil
Cartoon Network
Dexter's Lab
The Powerpuff Girls
Courage the Cowardly Dog
Codename: Kid's Next Door
The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
Adventure Time
Steven Universe
Adult Swim
Rick and Morty
The Venture Bros.
Nicktoons
Rugrats
Hey Arnold!
CatDog
SpongeBob SquarePants
Jimmy Neutron
Fairly Oddparents
Anything I'm missing? What about using anime in the place of where we wanted Popeye?
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mickeyfan5534
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Added to the list.
JokersWild
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I agree and I will be back in a few hours with some ideas. Suffice it to say, but I really want a Brak ride if we can make it work.
RMichael21
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Hey guys sorry I've been kind of MIA the past day or two, I've been super busy. Anything that I can do to help?
mickeyfan5534
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Well, Walt's Vault stopped our entire plan in it's tracks so we're back to square one with what we're doing. We're looking at cartoons from the late-80s up till now.
RMichael21
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Alright, sounds good. I'll take a look.