Swimming in the World Showcase Promenade

jhastings74

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When have they ever done a "magical moment" in other situations? What situations?
Really? Well, I can't say that the flooding situation has occurred before when I was there, so I can't speak to that specific type of situation specifically. But I have been there as a guest when we were evac'd from Haunted Mansion and we all received FastPasses to return at any time. We knew there was a potential for a ride to break down, we took the chance, but we rode it anyway. They in no way had to provide us with a FastPass. But they did. As a CM working Merchantainment in Dinosaur, I would sit and interact with guests that were too small to ride as they waited with a family member for their older siblings to come off the ride. We would sit and color, play with some of the puppets or other merchandise, and they would get a Magical Moment certificate. We did not have to provide that service at all. But it was a way of providing something as a way of saying, "hey...the company knows that it blows to have to wait while other people have fun. We don't hav to do this, but here's something special to make your day a little better." My family and I stayed at the All Star Sports in 2004 when Hurrican Frances blew through and they comp'd us the first day because we arrived after having been without power at home for 2 days and a report of FPL not getting to our little street in Melbourne for another 4 days because there were 'higher priority areas' with more people impacted. Management did not have to do that. None of that situation was their fault. But they did. Because it was good PR and part of what brings my family and I back to the parks. I honestly believe there could be an endless list of these 'moments'. But yes...when guest experiences have been impacted in the past they have willingly provided a 'plus' for the guest.
 

raven

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Really? Well, I can't say that the flooding situation has occurred before when I was there, so I can't speak to that specific type of situation specifically. But I have been there as a guest when we were evac'd from Haunted Mansion and we all received FastPasses to return at any time. We knew there was a potential for a ride to break down, we took the chance, but we rode it anyway. They in no way had to provide us with a FastPass. But they did. As a CM working Merchantainment in Dinosaur, I would sit and interact with guests that were too small to ride as they waited with a family member for their older siblings to come off the ride. We would sit and color, play with some of the puppets or other merchandise, and they would get a Magical Moment certificate. We did not have to provide that service at all. But it was a way of providing something as a way of saying, "hey...the company knows that it blows to have to wait while other people have fun. We don't hav to do this, but here's something special to make your day a little better." My family and I stayed at the All Star Sports in 2004 when Hurrican Frances blew through and they comp'd us the first day because we arrived after having been without power at home for 2 days and a report of FPL not getting to our little street in Melbourne for another 4 days because there were 'higher priority areas' with more people impacted. Management did not have to do that. None of that situation was their fault. But they did. Because it was good PR and part of what brings my family and I back to the parks. I honestly believe there could be an endless list of these 'moments'. But yes...when guest experiences have been impacted in the past they have willingly provided a 'plus' for the guest.

Question: Were you a CP or a CM when you worked at Dinosaur?
 

zurj

Active Member
Really? Well, I can't say that the flooding situation has occurred before when I was there, so I can't speak to that specific type of situation specifically. But I have been there as a guest when we were evac'd from Haunted Mansion and we all received FastPasses to return at any time. We knew there was a potential for a ride to break down, we took the chance, but we rode it anyway. They in no way had to provide us with a FastPass. But they did. As a CM working Merchantainment in Dinosaur, I would sit and interact with guests that were too small to ride as they waited with a family member for their older siblings to come off the ride. We would sit and color, play with some of the puppets or other merchandise, and they would get a Magical Moment certificate. We did not have to provide that service at all. But it was a way of providing something as a way of saying, "hey...the company knows that it blows to have to wait while other people have fun. We don't hav to do this, but here's something special to make your day a little better." My family and I stayed at the All Star Sports in 2004 when Hurrican Frances blew through and they comp'd us the first day because we arrived after having been without power at home for 2 days and a report of FPL not getting to our little street in Melbourne for another 4 days because there were 'higher priority areas' with more people impacted. Management did not have to do that. None of that situation was their fault. But they did. Because it was good PR and part of what brings my family and I back to the parks. I honestly believe there could be an endless list of these 'moments'. But yes...when guest experiences have been impacted in the past they have willingly provided a 'plus' for the guest.
I believe those arguing with you are unfamiliar with the term "gesture", "opportunity", and the idea of "good PR". I totally hear, and agree with all you've said. It's not that you're complaining that Disney didn't doing something for these guests... it's that they missed the opportunity to do something nice for the people who have kept Epcot in business. I think that PR move would have not only have been a nice thing to do, but "good business" in that it would increase their bottom dollar because these people would want to keep coming back even more.
 

UncleFastpass

Active Member
Really? Well, I can't say that the flooding situation has occurred before when I was there, so I can't speak to that specific type of situation specifically. But I have been there as a guest when we were evac'd from Haunted Mansion and we all received FastPasses to return at any time. We knew there was a potential for a ride to break down, we took the chance, but we rode it anyway. They in no way had to provide us with a FastPass. But they did. As a CM working Merchantainment in Dinosaur, I would sit and interact with guests that were too small to ride as they waited with a family member for their older siblings to come off the ride. We would sit and color, play with some of the puppets or other merchandise, and they would get a Magical Moment certificate. We did not have to provide that service at all. But it was a way of providing something as a way of saying, "hey...the company knows that it blows to have to wait while other people have fun. We don't hav to do this, but here's something special to make your day a little better." My family and I stayed at the All Star Sports in 2004 when Hurrican Frances blew through and they comp'd us the first day because we arrived after having been without power at home for 2 days and a report of FPL not getting to our little street in Melbourne for another 4 days because there were 'higher priority areas' with more people impacted. Management did not have to do that. None of that situation was their fault. But they did. Because it was good PR and part of what brings my family and I back to the parks. I honestly believe there could be an endless list of these 'moments'. But yes...when guest experiences have been impacted in the past they have willingly provided a 'plus' for the guest.
sounds like most of the things you are talking about are on a small scale,more of an individual or small group.So what about a down pour that affects 100s or thousands then do you think every one should be give a "token"?
 

Incomudro

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Empress is saying that you don't drown because water came and flooded everything too high...you drown because you didn't do enough to PREVENT it from GETTING that high in the first place. Similar (in theory...not in scale) to this situation.

I get it, but in reality - people do drown in natural situations - think flash floods in valleys where water comes in too high, too fast.
As for man made places, you can't out engineer nature in all situations.
 

DisneyFans4Life

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In other news...a sink in one of the MK bathrooms must have been slightly clogged because water wasn't draining very fast and my hands ended up touching the nasty rinse water. Don't worry...I marched right to guest services, raised a fuss and they promptly apologized and renewed my AP for the next year for free.

Happy day!
 

bethymouse

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Bottom line... was everyone safe? Did anyone get hurt? Were there any announcements ( I wish Disney would make announcements about severe weather situations, but I guess you kind of know when the storms are coming. You can see it, and they close down attractions).? Many times in the MK I have seen cast members using a squeegee to help get rid of the water. It is fun actually when it rains, but not when there are serious thunderstorms/tornadoes. Disney keeps you safe though. We were at MK one time, and sat under where the new Skipper Canteen is... a tornado warning was issued. If one was actually sighted on property, the CM would escort park guests through the utilidoors.:eek: Well, I hope EPCOT is back in working order, and everyone was safe.:eek:
 

danyoung56

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I would have a big problem if everyone involved with the Epcot flooding lined up at Guest Services and demanded something special for their troubles. But I would have no problem at all if Disney said "Hey, you were inconvenienced. It wasn't your fault, nor was it ours - it just happened. But since your day ended lousy, here's something to in some small way make up for it." That's just good customer service, and I think would be entirely warranted on a night when 2 feet of water sloshed around the World Showcase Promenade.
 

danyoung56

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I've been in Epcot when the rain was coming down so hard that you couldn't even see the Earth Globe in the center of the lagoon, and the show went on anyway. Since there are no live performers, the show can run no matter how hard it's raining.
 

jhastings74

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Question: Were you a CP or a CM when you worked at Dinosaur?
CM. Started in February 2008. Worked Dinoland merchandise locations, Chester & Hesters games (least favorite assignment), and shop/photo counter at Dinosaur. (previewing ride photos was best part, especially when Disney Channel games were in town and VIPs came through).
 

jaklgreen

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You have a gorgeous classic EPCOT Center logo for avatar. Symbiosis at The Land once ran an entire segment on how the Dutch built their entire country on this attitude: 'God created the earth, but the Dutch created the Netherlands'. There is no sea, only unwillingness to turn it into land. Likewise, there is no easily flooded piece of mid-Florida swampland, only an unwillingness to install and more likely maintain proper water management. God created the swamp, but Roy created the World. ;)

Oh please. This happens everywhere when it down pores. This is not a Florida or an improper drainage issue. Simply that the water can only physically move so fast through the drainage. I live no where near Florida and we have that same issues when it comes down like that. Now if it took days or even hours to drain away, then there is an issue. But this is all normal for that type of rain.
 

jaklgreen

Well-Known Member
Perhaps (about the last part...not the 'entitlement issues' statement...). But I'm not 100% convinced that an environment where guests who are walking on the major pathway in ankle deep water is an example of management doing everything in their control to 'keep it safe'. In looking at the photos, multiple guests were in the area. I didn't see any barricades or ropes to keep people from entering the area. (I'll double-check just to make sure). But it certainly looks like a potentially hazardous area...especially when people trip over curbs when it is completely dry...this is much worse.

Perhaps the company should include the following on all future resort media:

http://www.wikihow.com/Walk-in-a-Swamp

or maybe this?:

http://hydroco.com/hydroco-benefits-of-water.html


ANYhoo...to summarize:

1000 points of light

Stay the course

Missed opportunity for turning a negative guest experience into a positive one.

By the time they would put a barrier up, it would have drained away. I am thinking you must live in a desert and your life is always perfect to never have been rained on. Sheesh
 

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