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Rumor Swan and Dolphin Tower Expansion - Height Balloon Testing by Fantasia Gardens

MisterPenguin

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Is that even more solar panels? Disney loves solar.
? That Mickey one on top of the image has been there.
Yeah, the Mickey shaped one and the blobby one further up have been there for years. Near the blobby one, you can see work being done for a retention pond.
 

TJ Vazquez

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We were there playing our free mini golf and spoke to one of CM's there. He mentioned them not really knowing if Fantasia will stay given that there is VERY little parking planned for this hotel. I sort of agree when I look at the scope of the project, 300+ rooms on that small plot with very little wiggle room for parking. I can't imagine Mini-Golf makes very much for WDW, although its subsidized through package purchases.
 

mgf

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Does S&D ever max out its parking? At what I am guessing is $30 per night, I could see them not necessarily needing to add any.
 

TJ Vazquez

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Does S&D ever max out its parking? At what I am guessing is $30 per night, I could see them not necessarily needing to add any.
I’ve seen it full, but the other thing to consider is that if the guest of the tower have to use existing parking it will be a LONG walk. Parking is far enough from the S and D as it is.
 
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danlb_2000

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We were there playing our free mini golf and spoke to one of CM's there. He mentioned them not really knowing if Fantasia will stay given that there is VERY little parking planned for this hotel. I sort of agree when I look at the scope of the project, 300+ rooms on that small plot with very little wiggle room for parking. I can't imagine Mini-Golf makes very much for WDW, although its subsidized through package purchases.
Looks like about 300 parking spaces, which I would think would be enough.

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TJ Vazquez

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Looks like about 300 parking space, which I would think would be enough.

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Thanks for the this.
I'm unsure of the what the typical parking spot to room ratio is but I'd assume that if they didn't demo Fantasia than its safe to say they feel comfortable with what they have, land wise. Just still seems so tight to me.
Can you tell from the plans if there will be a Pedistretrain bridge that will allow guests to cross the street safely?
 

danlb_2000

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Thanks for the this.
I'm unsure of the what the typical parking spot to room ratio is but I'd assume that if they didn't demo Fantasia than its safe to say they feel comfortable with what they have, land wise. Just still seems so tight to me.
Can you tell from the plans if there will be a Pedistretrain bridge that will allow guests to cross the street safely?
I did some googling and it looks like the recommendation in Florida is 1 spot per room, and 1 spot per 5 employees. They will probably have most of the employees park in the main S&D lot.

The permits do not show a pedestrian bridge. It's possible the entrance will get a traffic light which would help with pedestrian crossing.
 

Missing20K

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Thanks for the this.
I'm unsure of the what the typical parking spot to room ratio is but I'd assume that if they didn't demo Fantasia than its safe to say they feel comfortable with what they have, land wise. Just still seems so tight to me.
Can you tell from the plans if there will be a Pedistretrain bridge that will allow guests to cross the street safely?
I did some googling and it looks like the recommendation in Florida is 1 spot per room, and 1 spot per 5 employees. They will probably have most of the employees park in the main S&D lot.

The permits do not show a pedestrian bridge. It's possible the entrance will get a traffic light which would help with pedestrian crossing.
IBC 2015 (International Building Code) states hotels/motels category requires 1 parking spot per unit plus 1 spot for every 500 square feet of common area.

Now the EPCOT Building Code may differ, in which case @lazyboy97o would probably know.
 

lazyboy97o

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IBC 2015 (International Building Code) states hotels/motels category requires 1 parking spot per unit plus 1 spot for every 500 square feet of common area.

Now the EPCOT Building Code may differ, in which case @lazyboy97o would probably know.
EPCOT Building Code does not contain parking requirements. Instead, parking is specified in the RCID Land Development Regulations. Hotels/Motels (without monorail) require “1 per guest room, plus if applicable, 1 per 200 sq. ft. of floor area used for convention and meeting purposes (excluding lobbies, pre-function areas, and restrooms).” There are separate requirements for monorail hotels and Value Resorts.

The Land Development Regulations are available on the Reedy Creek Improvement District website if anyone is eager to read all of the various parking requirements in Table 4-40-1. Spoiler, theme parks require a parking study.
 
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