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Sum of All Thrills Closing?

TeriofTerror

Well-Known Member
All personal opinion - I'm not right, no one else is wrong....

Innoventions, both East and West, are simply another set of abandoned buildings.

Sum of all thrills was wise to bug out. Innoventions is an empty mall, doomed to total death. Now WDW? what is your plan for the abandoned property?

Again - All personal opinion - I'm not right, no one else is wrong....
Oh sweetie, I can't. I just... can't.
Does everyone have an equal right to their opinion? Yes, absolutely. I will fight to the death to preserve that right.
Are all opinions created equal? Not even close.
For example, some people actually prefer drinking Busch Light to Chimay Blue. More Chimay for me, but those people are seriously messed up. ;)
 

Pete256

Member
I was there in June and spoke with a few of the workers while waiting to get on the simulator - Raytheon pulled out - they pulled the name, sponsorship and took the website down to watch your ride after you returned home.

If this was already said somewhere in these posts, then sorry. We really enjoyed this attraction -
 

RoysCabin

Well-Known Member
Glad I got to ride this for the first time last year, it was really a pretty decent addition to a pavilion that's had innumerable issues since it opened.

However, at the end of the day, Innoventions desperately needs a radical change. Communicore was never perfect, but at the very least it had a nice layout and felt welcoming to be a part of; Innoventions is closed, winding, claustrophobic, and far too scatterbrained.

If there's a fear for me here, it's that they'll expand the character Meet and Greet area and call it a day, all while removing the Innoventions Plaza BGM. My pie in the sky hope is that they instead opt to utilize the space they have to compliment the various pavilions around Future World with hands-on displays (science museum style), and, like I said in another thread, create some cultural, tech demo, and artistic spaces for local schools and organizations to take part in, like a room for music concerts, or a space for an art installation, or what have you, really emphasize the "community" part of Communicore with outreach to various groups and colleges in Florida or elsewhere. Won't happen, I know, but at the very least I hope they fix the whole claustrophobic issue that's plagued Innoventions since the mid 90s.
 

Wikkler

Well-Known Member
The ability to design, ride, and even control the intensity level of your own coaster was very unique and was definitely one of only a handful of things that have opened in the last twenty years at Epcot that have been a step in the right direction.

I will very dearly miss Sum of All Thrills, even though I understand that corporate sponsorships run out eventually.
 

FigmentForver96

Well-Known Member
All personal opinion - I'm not right, no one else is wrong....

Innoventions, both East and West, are simply another set of abandoned buildings.

Sum of all thrills was wise to bug out. Innoventions is an empty mall, doomed to total death. Now WDW? what is your plan for the abandoned property?

Again - All personal opinion - I'm not right, no one else is wrong....
Ehhhh not exactly.

I respect and honor all opinions but not all are exactly the same. For example so actually think that Guardians of the Galaxy in Tower of Terror is a good idea (shocking), but that doesn't actually make it ok. When you get down to the hard facts of why it's really wrong then you see why the opinion of "It's a great idea" becomes the minority opinion.
 

OliveMcFly

Well-Known Member
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I hope so, and i hope there will be a great new nighttime parade at MK, that ROL will begin eventually now that Jungle Book is ending, etc.etc. Just doesn't make me feel any better for my October trip since it's things closing and nothing new opening in that timeframe. I seem to be having to take a wait and see attitude for quite a few things with WDW lately, after i'd already postponed this visit for a couple years waiting on things that still haven't happened.
I think that's the case for every one right now. The resort is under a lot of change all at once. In a few years it's going to be like a brand new destination. Sad but exciting at the same time.
 

Seabasealpha1

Well-Known Member
Ehhhh not exactly.

I respect and honor all opinions but not all are exactly the same. For example so actually think that Guardians of the Galaxy in Tower of Terror is a good idea (shocking), but that doesn't actually make it ok. When you get down to the hard facts of why it's really wrong then you see why the opinion of "It's a great idea" becomes the minority opinion.

I'm of the opinion of choosing the lesser of two evils...dropping Rockett Racoon into the Tower of Terror would be a better move than placing it inside of Universe of Energy... Hollywood studios is already a botched up mess with pretty-much a restart on the table. Epcot is still (somewhat) still Epcot. I don't see the need to shoehorn the latest IP into every park in order to make a winning attraction that draws in people...there's still an overall theme to each park at WDW...which is something I feel they're losing sight of.

A messed up analogy:

We have a container of milk that already had a fly in it...so...what's another one? (Hollywood Studios) We have another container...no flies. Why add one? (Though Epcot does need the right kind of help!)
 

Dead2009

Horror Movie Guru
This was posted last week on Screamscape (I know, lol Screamscape) but i noticed it wasnt posted anywhere

I failed to mention this before, but it was pointed out that a few of the remaining Innovations attractions at Epcot will be closing after Sept. 14th, including The Sum of All Thrills and the Hurricane themed simulation. Beyond this, there isn't much left of the old Innoventions areas, some of which has been turned into character Meet & Greet areas in the past few years. Not sure what the future holds for the concept at all anymore, if anything.

http://screamscape.com/html/wdw_-_epcot.htm
 

Jon81uk

Well-Known Member
I'm of the opinion of choosing the lesser of two evils...dropping Rockett Racoon into the Tower of Terror would be a better move than placing it inside of Universe of Energy... Hollywood studios is already a botched up mess with pretty-much a restart on the table. Epcot is still (somewhat) still Epcot. I don't see the need to shoehorn the latest IP into every park in order to make a winning attraction that draws in people...there's still an overall theme to each park at WDW...which is something I feel they're losing sight of.

A messed up analogy:

We have a container of milk that already had a fly in it...so...what's another one? (Hollywood Studios) We have another container...no flies. Why add one? (Though Epcot does need the right kind of help!)

Because Tower of Terror is probably the best themed thrill ride in the world and doesn't need to change. Universe of Energy is 20 years out of date and of less interest to todays guest. If they really want to keep a "use less energy" attraction then build an omnimover to go in the Innoventions building and use the bigger plot of land for something more exciting.
I agree that Gaurdians of the Galaxy doesn't really fit with Epcot. But the Tower of Terror doesn't need replacing, whereas most of Future World does.

To sort of continue your analogy, the single fly can be fished out the milk, but the old sour stale milk is of no use anyway.
 
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Seabasealpha1

Well-Known Member
Because Tower of Terror is probably the best themed thrill ride in the world and doesn't need to change. Universe of Energy is 20 years out of date and of less interest to todays guest. If they really want to keep a "use less energy" attraction then build an omnimover to go in the Innoventions building and use the bigger plot of land for something more exciting.
I agree that Gaurdians of the Galaxy doesn't really fit with Epcot. But the Tower of Terror doesn't need replacing, whereas most of Future World does.

To sort of continue your analogy, the single fly can be fished out the milk, but the old sour stale milk is of no use anyway.

Here's another analogy that folks commonly use...

"You can't see the forest for the trees."

True, FW needs redone (about 7/8 of it) and World Showcase is fairly solid (still scratching my head at this Frozen B.S.!) in what it offers.

But in the case of DHS, the whole park is screwed. Epcot still has a thematic point and purpose that is just slightly more existent than DHS. DHS is like some kinda closet where all the other crap that doesn't fit anywhere else gets wedged. And half of that crap has now been scrapped and leveled wholesale.

Sure, the tower is really well themed. Yes. I love it too... but in a forest that's basically been leveled, what's one more tree?
 

Jon81uk

Well-Known Member
Here's another analogy that folks commonly use...

"You can't see the forest for the trees."

True, FW needs redone (about 7/8 of it) and World Showcase is fairly solid (still scratching my head at this Frozen B.S.!) in what it offers.

But in the case of DHS, the whole park is screwed. Epcot still has a thematic point and purpose that is just slightly more existent than DHS. DHS is like some kinda closet where all the other crap that doesn't fit anywhere else gets wedged. And half of that crap has now been scrapped and leveled wholesale.

Sure, the tower is really well themed. Yes. I love it too... but in a forest that's basically been leveled, what's one more tree?

Building new attractions on new land at DHS would be preferable still. But I can think of four things that need replacing before Tower of Terror. Why cut down your tall healthy trees before replacing the old withered ones. ALL of the shows at DHS need replacing before Tower should even be touched and that wouldn't even involve building anything, just new sets/cast.
 

Seabasealpha1

Well-Known Member
Agreed also. I'm just saying that yes, UoE needs a replacement. Does it need franchises planted in it? No. We're talking about the death of a second park (which, some would say is already deceased) that would be ushered in by planting Marvel's crap in FW. So, if I personally had to choose which attraction would need the treatment, I'm sorry to say the tower gets it. We'll just have to see what actually happens. Maybe they can find a way to get GotG to fit within FW. Then again...the current regime seems keen on murdering anything sacred.

Here soon, they'll be stuffing their own Grandmothers and opening a museum that you pay $75 to visit...and there will be a dining plan for an additional $125. But don't worry, Carl from UP will be there to do meet and greets with your kids! Oh and by the way, FROZEN FROZEN FROZEN! Bob Iger's grandmother is dressed up as Elsa! But it's gonna cost another $100 to get her autograph! (which, prints out on a little slip as Bob's grandmother isn't actually there, she's on a projection screen in a room full of projected sets!) Hurry now, this attraction will only exist for two whole weeks because it's being shipped to CHINA! In it's place they'll be installing a broken animatronic of stitch in a blue wig with a walker! (which is also projected on a screen, while you try to find Nemo!)
 

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