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'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

LittleBuford

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The only thing left about this topic is to see the viewership numbers for D+ when they come out in a couple weeks. If its pretty high numbers then we'll know that D+ had a large effect on box office.
I believe some of those numbers are already out, though not from Nielsen. @Chi84 shared a story a week or two ago that included a link to the following website:

 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
I waited for Disney + and it took me almost a week to watch it because, in my own personal opinion, which I’m allowed despite what some folks here may think, I found it painfully boring and a major snoozefest. I tapped out after 15 minutes each day but I wanted to get through it so I could have an educated opinion on it.
As someone who enjoyed it, I don't share your opinion, but I thank you for at least watching it. I see no issue with the fact that it wasn't to your liking.
 

LittleBuford

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Respectfully, disagree. This isn’t a one off situation. Disney has had failure after failure recently. Strange World is another Lightyear and so on and so forth. There’s a pattern.
I'm struggling to see a pattern given that Encanto (2021) was quite well received. It's also worth noting that Lightyear is a Pixar film.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I don't know if that theory holds water. This movie was a historic flop. I would bet on the viewership numbers being very strong. People love to see what all the fuss is about, and this movie had a lot of fuss associated with it. So the key is going to be how does this movie perform in a year or two down the road. Unfortunately we will never get that data from Disney.
If the numbers are high though that would indicate that people waited to see it on D+ rather than go to the theater. And an indication that D+ had a large impact on the box office, something that has been discussed a lot here.

Also how a movie performs on streaming a year after release isn't relevant to the box office impact discussion.
 

ElvisMickey

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I'm struggling to see a pattern given that Encanto (2021) was quite well received. It's also worth noting that Lightyear is a Pixar film.
I believe Encanto didn’t do that great in theaters but was completely kick butt on Disney +. You can never underestimate a great soundtrack to boost a film.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I believe some of those numbers are already out, though not from Nielsen. @Chi84 shared a story a week or two ago that included a link to the following website:

I'm not familiar with that site, so I don't know its accuracy. But interesting data to look at.
 

Disstevefan1

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Put this film aside - Let's talk about movie "AB" (I did not want to use X as the variable :) )

What is a "success" at the box office? Making $1 more than it costs to make? How much more must a movie make over its costs, at the box office, to be considered a box office success?

Could the number of folks who stay home to watch it on the stream make the difference between a box office success and and a box office failure?

BTW, I watched Luca, Encanto, Lightyear, Strange World, and yes, Top Gun Maverick, on the stream..
 

DKampy

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I believe Encanto didn’t do that great in theaters but was completely kick butt on Disney +. You can never underestimate a great soundtrack to boost a film
Everyone Knew Encanto was going to have the theatrical cut short and Covid cases was rising at the time so they decided it would not be tough to wait a couple of weeks for Disney +
 

Disstevefan1

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Same here, except for Top Gun: Maverick, which I saw at a drive-in cinema (only because it happened to be playing that night, not because I sought it out). Luca was my favourite of the lot, and Lightyear my least favourite.
I liked all these movies.

Of these movies I want to re watch, the order is Top Gun Maverick, Luca, Encanto, Lightyear, Strange World.
 

RobWDW1971

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Streaming success of a tentpole film is based on acquisitions (new signups + first click) which are traditionally driven by box office success.

Disney+ is a replacement for Disney’s previous Pay 1 deals so if the film does not meaningfully drive acquisition or reduce churn (both highly unlikely), it will not be significantly additive financially.

A film with a disastrous box office will also suffer in ongoing home entertainment sales and rentals (EST/PVOD/Physical).

Downstream international deal terms (pay/broadcast) are also pegged to box office so the historic financial pain of this film is just beginning.

Look for Disney to “memory hole” this film on future earnings calls and focus on Avatar and BP2.
 
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RobWDW1971

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No kidding. It's fascinating to see Disney stumble like this several times in a row now. It's bizarre, quite frankly. o_O

Meanwhile, just 3 miles up the Ventura Freeway in Studio City, Universal is routinely doing great business with their animated movies.

And Puss In Boots is hugely popular overseas as well, where Strange World had an even worse showing in overseas markets than it did in it's already disastrous US domestic market.

Puss In Boots: Day 20 in Global Theaters = $201 Million global box office
Strange World: Day 47 in Global Theaters = $67 Million global box office


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What’s even more compelling is that Puss in Boots has been available to watch in the home (purchase or rent on premium VOD) since Day 16 of release and families are still choosing to see it in theaters. Conversely, Strange World was exclusively available in theaters for 30 days.

Will be interesting to see the impact on the box office curve (adjusted for seasonality) over the next few weeks as Universal experiments with early EST/PVOD on a successful family title.

Unlike Strange World, the film is a hit with parents, word of mouth and exit scores are stellar, and there isn’t controversy in countless thousands of audience reviews, Twitter comments, and parent Facebook pages.

Funny how that works….
 

Chi84

Premium Member
What’s even more compelling is that Puss in Boots has been available to watch in the home (purchase or rent on premium VOD) since Day 16 of release and families are still choosing to see it in theaters. Conversely, Strange World was exclusively available in theaters for 30 days.

Will be interesting to see the impact on the box office curve (adjusted for seasonality) over the next few weeks as Universal experiments with early EST/PVOD on a successful family title.

Unlike Strange World, the film is a hit with parents, word of mouth and exit scores are stellar, and there isn’t controversy in countless thousands of audience reviews, Twitter comments, and parent Facebook pages.

Funny how that works….
Where are you seeing all that controversy? I’ve looked through several sources and I’m not seeing it - certainly not “countless thousands.”
 
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