'Strange World' Disney's 2022 Animated Film

DKampy

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I think the term "unease" is fairer in some cases. Perhaps because my own father was for years uncomfortable with my being gay, I'm sympathetic to the fact that many people retain certain beliefs and prejudices that were, until recent decades, standard in most societies. I'd like to think that most of them can shift their way of thinking and are not inveterate in their bigotry. The dramatic change in polling on gay marriage (something that I, bizarrely, myself once opposed!) gives me hope.
Yes people can definitely change…I have been lucky enough to grow up in an area that was well integrated so I grew up knowing people of different races and sexual orientations…my wife grew up in a small town and has told me she use to be prejudice but since she startEd a new job in a downtown city…she was exposed to more variety of people and she is not prejudice at all anymore…and realized people are people…some people in her family are still bigoted…she does not even like talking to them as she now realizes how awful that is

Which is why I think it is important for stories like this…People are afraid of what they don’t know…anything that help normalizes
 

Disstevefan1

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What annoyed you about it?
This is my opinion and only my opinion -

At the very end, where the town was dark with candles, it seems to be preaching that we must totally stop all fossil fuels and live in the dark to save the planet.

As I have posted before, Fossil fuels made everything today possible.

Without oil and plastic, there would be no internet, no world wide web, no devices to access the web, no forums.wdwmagic.com, no WDW.

In my opinion, it's hypocritical to all of a sudden make fossil fuel the huge villain AFTER it got us to the great standard of living we enjoy on a daily basis, including everything needed end to end to post on this very site.

In my opinion, we still need oil to make all sorts of materials.

In my opinion, if we want to stop burning fossil fuels for power the answer is nuclear power.

Whatever solution peoplekind comes up with, it should develop over time as to not yank the rug out from under people just trying to live, work, grow their families and live their daily lives.
 

Prince-1

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The fact that some of us haven't seen the film does not disqualify us from discussing its failure (unless the mods here say otherwise).

The mods aka The Mom has already spoken on the topic.

People, please stop arguing about what should or shouldn't be shown in a Disney films. Every argument for or against anyone's POV has been given - ad nauseam. Enough.

Perhaps people who have actually seen the movie could give their own reviews.

And the arguments about social issues have got to stop right now.
 

LittleBuford

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Of course it's discussion. Some of us were discussing the lousy box-office performance of Strange World. And some here attacked us for it. Is trying to silence us about it. That's the real issue here.
It's a strange sort of silencing given that a huge percentage of this thread is taken up by posts repeatedly rejoicing in the film's failure. To me at least, it seems that the the majority of these posts are designed to hammer home an ideological point rather than engage in good-faith discussion. There's something very wrong indeed when a thread ostensibly devoted to a film that most of us have ready access to through Disney+ is inundated with posts by people who absolutely refuse to watch it. It's the forum equivalent of review bombing, and it skews proceedings away from a civil, informed, or productive exchange of thoughts.
 

LittleBuford

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This is my opinion and only my opinion -

At the very end, where the town was dark with candles, it seems to be preaching that we must totally stop all fossil fuels and live in the dark to save the planet.

As I have posted before, Fossil fuels made everything today possible.

Without oil and plastic, there would be no internet, no world wide web, no devices to access the web, no forums.wdwmagic.com, no WDW.

In my opinion, it's hypocritical to all of a sudden make fossil fuel the huge villain AFTER it got us to the great standard of living we enjoy on a daily basis, including everything needed end to end to post on this very site.

In my opinion, we still need oil to make all sorts of materials.

In my opinion, if we want to stop burning fossil fuels for power the answer is nuclear power.

Whatever solution peoplekind comes up with, it should develop over time as to not yank the rug out from under people just trying to live, work, grow their families and live their daily lives.
I've mentioned this before, but we also see wind-powered electricity at the end.

I personally don't think the film vilifies fossil fuels. Rather, it allegorises something we all know anyway: that the world's reliance on fossil fuels is unsustainable and that we should aim for viable alternatives. This is a message I've been hearing since primary school, and I'm 40 years old.
 

Disney Analyst

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It's a strange sort of silencing given that a huge percentage of this thread is taken up by posts repeatedly rejoicing in the film's failure. To me at least, it seems that the the majority of these posts are designed to hammer home an ideological point rather than engage in good-faith discussion. There's something very wrong indeed when a thread ostensibly devoted to a film that most of us have ready access to through Disney+ is inundated with posts by people who absolutely refuse to watch it. It's the forum equivalent of review bombing, and it skews proceedings away from a civil, informed, or productive exchange of thoughts.

Here here!
 

Heppenheimer

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This is my opinion and only my opinion -

At the very end, where the town was dark with candles, it seems to be preaching that we must totally stop all fossil fuels and live in the dark to save the planet.

As I have posted before, Fossil fuels made everything today possible.

Without oil and plastic, there would be no internet, no world wide web, no devices to access the web, no forums.wdwmagic.com, no WDW.

In my opinion, it's hypocritical to all of a sudden make fossil fuel the huge villain AFTER it got us to the great standard of living we enjoy on a daily basis, including everything needed end to end to post on this very site.

In my opinion, we still need oil to make all sorts of materials.

In my opinion, if we want to stop burning fossil fuels for power the answer is nuclear power.

Whatever solution peoplekind comes up with, it should develop over time as to not yank the rug out from under people just trying to live, work, grow their families and live their daily lives.
Oddly enough, one of the most nuanced takes on balancing the many competing interests of energy supply that was aimed at kids was...

This:

Amazon product ASIN B07NJK8VKC
I still have my copy!

Even though this was published under the sponsorship of 1980s Exxon-Mobile, it was surprising frank about the costs of using fossil fuels, but also explained both the pros and cons of other energy sources. Kind of like the best primer from my childhood on monetary inflation came from an episode of Duck Tales, Disney gave me a better summation of energy policy than countless opinion pieces in more adult reading sources. And it explained things to kids without talking down to or preaching to them.
 

brb1006

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Pleakly— though that’s not really played up until the animated series.
Pleakly wasn't gay, he just likes crossdressing (plus he's an alien). Not all men that crossdress automatically makes them "gay" you know.

Heck, Osamu Tezuka was very fond of having straight male and female characters being comfortable in dressing in feminine/male clothing and wearing makeup regardless of age. Notably Unico the little Unicorn who is frequently seen wearing eyeliner and wearing a cute bow around his tail and horn.
unico.jpg
 
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Magenta Panther

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Pleakly wasn't gay, he just likes crossdressing (plus he's an alien). Not all men that crossdressing makes them "gay" you know. Heck, Osamu Tezuka was fond of having straight male and female characters being comfortable in dressing in feminine clothing and wearing makeup.
Plus there's the fact that the reason Pleakely dresses like that is to make people laugh, not to make a statement.
 

LittleBuford

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Maybe the fact that the film failed is worthy of discussion. Saying that those of us who haven't seen it yet can't comment on its failure is akin to saying that someone who hasn't seen Avatar: The Way of Water can't comment on its box-office success. Savvy?
Of course it’s worthy of discussion. But how can anyone seriously maintain, let alone repeatedly insist, that it failed because of its inclusion of “gay themes” without having watched it first to see how those themes are actually handled? Don’t you think it’s telling that most of the people who’ve left reviews here—including those who didn’t like it much—don’t share the view that Ethan’s crush was the cause of the film’s failure? How can a meaningful discussion ensue when members of one camp refuse to inform themselves of the particulars on which their argument is supposedly built?
 

Heppenheimer

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The villain in Big Hero 6 was terrible though. Sick of the recent Twist Villain Trope.
I honestly don't even remember much about him, other than he looks like Bob Iger and the movie all but telegraphed that he was going to be the secret villain. Once the characters, for some reason, became super heroes, I kind of tuned out.
 

LittleBuford

Well-Known Member
Disney in general has a pretty big fan base. I would assume that includes gay and straight.
This is true, though I personally feel that Disney fans are disproportionately gay, by which I mean that gay (and other LGBTQI people) seem to me to form a higher percentage of the Disney fanbase than they do of the general population. I would say the same of CMs. My impression is, however, based on nothing more than my own "gaydar".
 

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